EPC-net = EPC?
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EPC-net = EPC?
I bought the EWA/EPC/WIS/ASRA/WIS discs the moment I bought the S. It's running well in a VM. I know there is also the EPC-net. Is there anything that the EPC-net offers that the local version of EPC does not?
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Ok, english please. What is that and what does it do?
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Loosely--
EWA -- don't know what it stands for, but it encompasses EPC and WIS
EPC = Electronic Parts Catalog
WIS = Workshop Information System
ASRA = Some German acronym that provides for labor rates/times
VM = Virtual Machine (Commonly VMWare or Virtual Box)
These are database apps that run inside a VM guest. They provide the parts catalog, pricing (in Euro), factory service information/instruction (sort of), etc.
I had the same for my BMWs, so I sought it out when I bought the Benz.
EWA -- don't know what it stands for, but it encompasses EPC and WIS
EPC = Electronic Parts Catalog
WIS = Workshop Information System
ASRA = Some German acronym that provides for labor rates/times
VM = Virtual Machine (Commonly VMWare or Virtual Box)
These are database apps that run inside a VM guest. They provide the parts catalog, pricing (in Euro), factory service information/instruction (sort of), etc.
I had the same for my BMWs, so I sought it out when I bought the Benz.
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I run the same setup (2013) and would guess that it is not updating vs the EPC-net. I'm thinking the only difference would be prices, as part numbers normally remain the same. I've never have got the prices to work anyway.
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Why do you want all of this? Benz is nothing like BMW. Where BMW is easy to change settings and do diagnosis with a simple OBD2 cable and software, Benz is pretty much locked down and you need to visit the dealer to make any changes, do any programming, or diagnosis any problems.
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Why do you want all of this? Benz is nothing like BMW. Where BMW is easy to change settings and do diagnosis with a simple OBD2 cable and software, Benz is pretty much locked down and you need to visit the dealer to make any changes, do any programming, or diagnosis any problems.
With Benz, based on my research and information from Nuru, I believe many of the coding and settings can also be done once the factory tool is acquired and set up. From what I have seen, the difference is that there is a smaller Benz technical/DIY (vis-a-vis factory tools) community, accordingly the collective knowledge is less available.
Insofar as the EPC and WIS--they are very helpful to me. I can look up part numbers, what parts apply to my car, diagrams showing how parts relate, and the WIS provides specifications, some step-by-step information, such as removing a bumper or seat, etc. I've read a few posts about people saying that there is no factory service manual, the WIS is probably as close as they come.
Even if my car was under warranty, I would elect to do certain work myself. Sometimes it's a convenience factor, sometimes it's just interesting, and sometimes it's because I want it done right. One example is the seat heater cushion. I'm sure the dealer has a process, but I may want to take my time and make sure that it is fitted more perfectly than the dealer would (Jason).
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This is an aftermarket tool, looks interesting, albeit pricy.
http://www.keyprogtools.com/index.ph...r-for-mercedes
http://www.keyprogtools.com/index.ph...r-for-mercedes
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I did lots of programming on my E60 M5 with my BM Technic cable and software. It was pretty much a breeze to figure out with all of the info available on the forums.
If you get programming figured out on these Benz' and share it with us poor common saps, I guarantee you'll be lauded as a pioneer on this and other Benz boards.
I wish you the best of luck!
If you get programming figured out on these Benz' and share it with us poor common saps, I guarantee you'll be lauded as a pioneer on this and other Benz boards.
I wish you the best of luck!
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I did lots of programming on my E60 M5 with my BM Technic cable and software. It was pretty much a breeze to figure out with all of the info available on the forums.
If you get programming figured out on these Benz' and share it with us poor common saps, I guarantee you'll be lauded as a pioneer on this and other Benz boards.
I wish you the best of luck!
If you get programming figured out on these Benz' and share it with us poor common saps, I guarantee you'll be lauded as a pioneer on this and other Benz boards.
I wish you the best of luck!
Once I get all the issues with my S settled, I'll start digging into the Benz tools. It would certainly be cool....
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After getting GT1 and other factory pieces, things are [relatively easy]. I started playing with INPA and NCS Expert, those are more tricky because everything is text based and the strings are in German.
Once I get all the issues with my S settled, I'll start digging into the Benz tools. It would certainly be cool....
Once I get all the issues with my S settled, I'll start digging into the Benz tools. It would certainly be cool....
I did all of my programming in NCS Expert. There was a tool called NCS for Dummies that did the translations and made programming a breeze.
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Epc - Electronics parts catalogue the .net version is the MB- online one ,that has latest relevant partnumbers, as MB tends to update their partnumbers as time progresses and parts are sold in an updated or improved version.
If you want to start changing parameters you need Das-Xentry with the developer rights.
For some repairs and replacement of parts ,version coding is often needed.
If extra original MB accessoiries are added(that are not on your options list) access to Mercedes Das-Xentry online is sometimes required.
If you want to start changing parameters you need Das-Xentry with the developer rights.
For some repairs and replacement of parts ,version coding is often needed.
If extra original MB accessoiries are added(that are not on your options list) access to Mercedes Das-Xentry online is sometimes required.
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Epc is a standalone version of epc-net. EPCnet gets updated more often. WIS also is either standalone or online. I dont bother with EPC, and just call my dealer because there tend to be many parts revisions. I just use DAS and Xentry for diagnosis.
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Epc - Electronics parts catalogue the .net version is the MB- online one ,that has latest relevant partnumbers, as MB tends to update their partnumbers as time progresses and parts are sold in an updated or improved version.
If you want to start changing parameters you need Das-Xentry with the developer rights.
For some repairs and replacement of parts ,version coding is often needed.
If extra original MB accessoiries are added(that are not on your options list) access to Mercedes Das-Xentry online is sometimes required.
If you want to start changing parameters you need Das-Xentry with the developer rights.
For some repairs and replacement of parts ,version coding is often needed.
If extra original MB accessoiries are added(that are not on your options list) access to Mercedes Das-Xentry online is sometimes required.
Last edited by Nuru; Mar 11, 2015 at 10:18 AM.
