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Old 11-13-2015, 02:37 PM
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If anyone remotely cares, via PM today I reached an understanding with ******* with respect to promotion of the group buy. They agreed to add a disclaimer to their post(s) when offering the group buy, and I agreed to stop challenging them on the voracity of their claims, since the disclaimer would eliminate any confusion amongst the forum members.

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After all the back and forth and various iterations of *******s promotional posts I noticed this device referred to as both Apple Car Play and Nav Tools CarPlay. Went to their web site and had a chat with a sales rep. This is not Car Play but a mirroring device. On line chat below:


******* Sales:
Hello, thank you for visiting. Can I help you in any way?
Me: Looking for info on your apple CarPlay module
******* Sales:
hi, all available infor is currently posted on the mb world
if you have prodcut specific question i can provide answers
Me: I notice it is referred to as both Apple CarPlay and ******* CarPlay. Are there two different modules?
******* Sales: ******* is not a carplay
its only mirroing device
it allows you to mirro your entire screen
on the factory screen
Me: I see. Ok thanks for your help.
******* Sales: thank you

While not reaching fraud/scam levels, it is diseption non the less to call this device Car Play.
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It would be a good idea to remove your previous promotional threads so there is no confusion.

https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...3-s-class.html
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Look at your promotional thread. It reads as follows:

The video below shows Mercedes-Benz 2016 C Class with built in CarPlay.

Nav Tool CarPlay unit currently in development is expected to operate in identical fashion.

This is what caught my eye and prompted me to go to your web site.

Either poor wording, or again being deceptive.
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You missed my point. Your opening line refers to this module/interface as Apple CarPlay. You then refer to it as Nav Tool CarPlay as I cited. Whether it is the same or not, it raises the question are they two different items. i don't want to teach you how to write a promo, but yours is badly worded at best, deceptive at worst.
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You missed my point. Your opening line refers to this module/interface as Apple CarPlay. You then refer to it as Nav Tool CarPlay as I cited. Whether it is the same or not, it raises the question are they two different items. i don't want to teach you how to write a promo, but yours is badly worded at best, deceptive at worst.
It's like trying to nail Jello to a wall. It looks like they've pulled all the CarPlay related threads. Their problem was, as you pointed out, creating the inference that they had developed a 3rd party Apple Car Play module by calling it "Car Play" and using a MB factory CarPlay promotional video.

I don't think they have or will have a CarPlay module in the forseeable future and based on my interactions with them I'm not even sure they actually understand the difference between CarPlay and a cell phone screen mirror.
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Originally Posted by MrRat
1) What additional hardware will it require for the W221 installation?
A) an additional microphone? I saw some reference for this in the group buy thread.
B) an add on joystick for input? Saw this too but maybe in reference to another model.

2) I'm assuming the implementation uses a module that will intercept the video signal going to the comand screen and use the up/ down movement of the comand knob to toggle between Apple car play/ normal Mercedes function.
It will also have its own iPhone interface including a lightning cable.
It will also interface with the sound system, and may include its own da converter since the lightning cable interface has no analog signal.
This would also replace the crappy iPhone integration now offered by Mercedes.
Please discuss.


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Now that we have some truce established, I d be interested in an answer to my original question.
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Originally Posted by *******.com
Mike5215 was given an opportunity to see actual CarPlay today.
Yes, that's true. I received a PM asking if I would sign a non disclosure in order to see a demo (?) and asked if I would be an "ambassador" for the product. I declined both offers.

I did suggest that they simply post the demo online however they claim they are prohibited by Apple from showing the product because it contains a beta Apple IOS that cannot be released publicly.

In an effort to maintain civility in the forum I won't opine on the plausibility of that scenario. I do think $600 is a reasonable price for an Apple certified CarPlay retrofit module. I'm not sure these are the guys who can develop one and bring it to market but time will tell.

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I just want to tell the forum that I now have a working CarPlay module as well. I built it in my garage. It's Top Secret. I could show it to you, but then I'd have to kill you. My CarPlay module works exactly like the factory unit, except mine also dispenses Skittles.

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I am ready to give my life just to see the ****ing think Mike...
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Originally Posted by alexandercat76
I am ready to give my life just to see the ****ing think Mike...
Well I totally have one and it's completely real and everything but due to special magic lucky reasons I cannot show it to you now. It works exactly like the one in the Mercedes CarPlay video except there's an extra icon on mine called "Skittles".
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Originally Posted by *******.com
Mike5215 our offer still stands, sign NDA and you can see it.


Yeah, I'm still seriously considering that offer, because I totally believe you have a working CarPlay prototype.
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why does ******* delete his post. obviously there is something to hide which makes the whole carplay or mirror device they so call have look alot more suspicious. im the one who originally asked ******* to post a video of it being used in a s class. all i recieved back was a bunch bs. mike got on and was curious as well and just wanted some manuals and see it as well. But still these people are full of ****. this is a scam or way for them to get money to build a product they dont already have. so ******* stop your bs. my phone number isnt posted so you cant call or text me some bs.
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They've deleted whole threads!

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its a scam. ima post up in every thread they put up its a scam
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Yeah, I'm done wasting my time with them. Maybe in March they'll have a working CarPlay module. Not interested in the mirror.
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Why do I get the feeling that this company is somehow affiliated with Logic Lab Tuning? They sure act very similarly.
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^^I thought of that too. These guys do seem to have a legit website and they've been around since 2007/2008 but I agree this whole CarPlay thing is really strange. I don't understand the rush to get buzz started now when the product won't launch until March at the earliest. Plus I have to believe that fake admin text came from them somehow.
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Maybe I should have signed the NDA!
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that idiot ******* told me to sign one to so they can show me a demo. probably most stupid thing ive ever been asked. i knew he was gonna pm me. if they were legit why would they even delete their post when we are just asking simple questions.
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Originally Posted by mysecondbenz
whats all the drama about?
You should read thru the post and you will find your answer
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Originally Posted by mysecondbenz


I did you imbecile, none of this makes sense
so you call me a imbecile when your dumb *** read thru the whole thread and couldnt figure it out. come now whos the real imbecile. are you ******* or do you have any affiliation thru *******. Actually are you ******* and made up another screen name? lol
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In fairness you'd need a scorecard to keep up with this one. Start with this thread (now closed) and it should clear up what all the hoopla was about...

https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w221/605752-apple-car-play-scam-2.html

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Originally Posted by mysecondbenz
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When things do not add up, either you do not have a calculator or you forgot to use common sense.
Well fellas we have here a ******* dick rider in the house.


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