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DaveW68 02-29-2016 12:25 PM

Cost for front brake job?
 
My local dealer is putting in a new coil pack to take care of the misfires. While in there, they said that one of my front pads is down to 1 MM and should be replaced within days. The other pads are around 2 MM. They're willing to send me picture to show me. They've giving me a quote to change out the front rotors, pads, sensor, bleeding, etc of $803+tax, which would take it to around $840.

I called a local indy who I've worked with many times in the past and was quoted $471 out the door for OEM rotors & pads, sensor, and complete brake job.

Are dealer markups really that high for front brakes? Or am I just getting the deal of the century from my indy?

ruflife1 02-29-2016 12:30 PM

Around here, the labor rates for the dealer are $150/hr. That is probably where the main difference in mark up is.

1bad540 02-29-2016 12:45 PM

pads are roughly 140, rotors are prb 200, rest is labor.

xpl0sive 02-29-2016 12:53 PM

I don't know what year your car is, I looked up 2009.
Rotors are selling online for $140 each

http://www.oediscountparts.com/parts...&siteid=215242

Front pads can be EBC red stuff. listed for $115



Wear sensor is about $25. Only one on the passenger side.

So if you're doing it yourself, it will cost you about $420 in parts. If the mechanic is quoting you $470, just get it done

1bad540 02-29-2016 12:57 PM

I made the prices up. I did akebono pads on mine were about 160 for fr n back.

alx 02-29-2016 01:11 PM

you are at about $280 for parts.

dealer rate is $150/ hour

it is a 1- 1.5 hour job, if your rotors are stuck- a 2-2.5 hour job.

mercedesbenzs55 02-29-2016 01:26 PM

I remember hearing jazz about $9800 Brake job quotes. I beleive it was for an s63/S65

What is so much for special about s65 breaks that warrants 9k more in price?

xpl0sive 02-29-2016 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by alx (Post 6723144)
you are at about $280 for parts.

dealer rate is $150/ hour

it is a 1- 1.5 hour job, if your rotors are stuck- a 2-2.5 hour job.


not sure where you're gonna get a pair of rotors and pads for $280...

xpl0sive 02-29-2016 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by mercedesbenzs55 (Post 6723165)
I remember hearing jazz about $9800 Brake job quotes. I beleive it was for an s63/S65

What is so much for special about s65 breaks that warrants 9k more in price?

Dealer price for front and rear rotors of S65 are $1100 each. There's $4400 right there. $290 for front pads, $170 for rear pads. So about $5k parts. Rest is labor

alx 02-29-2016 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by xpl0sive (Post 6723166)
not sure where you're gonna get a pair of rotors and pads for $280...

Well maybe not quite- but close...

http://www.shopmercedesbmwonline.com...nt-brakes-scat

Quadcammer 02-29-2016 07:37 PM

Do you need rotors? Have they mic'ed them? If not, I'd surely expect them to.

DaveW68 02-29-2016 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Quadcammer (Post 6723605)
Do you need rotors? Have they mic'ed them? If not, I'd surely expect them to.

The rotors are so thin that they really can't be cut....just like most German cars. Pad slaps aren't a good idea either. New pads almost always require new rotors on a Benz.

Quadcammer 03-01-2016 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by DaveW68 (Post 6723735)
The rotors are so thin that they really can't be cut....just like most German cars. Pad slaps aren't a good idea either. New pads almost always require new rotors on a Benz.

false.

You mic the rotors and if they are reasonably above the minimum wear limit, they can easily be reused.

Pad slaps, as you call it, are totally fine. Simply bed the new pads in to create an even layer of new pad deposits and you're fine.

You can scuff up the old rotors if you find it necessary, but not a big deal.

Replacing good rotors for no reason is simply a waste of money.

1bad540 03-01-2016 08:47 AM

I use common sense when replacing rotors, if they look bad I change them. If they are straight no grooves with no lip I leave them.

DaveW68 03-01-2016 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Quadcammer (Post 6724045)
false.

You mic the rotors and if they are reasonably above the minimum wear limit, they can easily be reused.

Pad slaps, as you call it, are totally fine. Simply bed the new pads in to create an even layer of new pad deposits and you're fine.

You can scuff up the old rotors if you find it necessary, but not a big deal.

Replacing good rotors for no reason is simply a waste of money.

The dealer for the previous owner did a pad slap at 16k miles. The rotors have raised edges, meaning that some of the metal material is worn down. The rotors are too thin to be used again, and have never been cut. MB in their infinite wisdom made pads that didn't fully cover the rotors. Why?

What I find disconcerting is that it needs a 2nd set of front pads at only 33k miles. The car has never been driven hard. Perhaps MB needs to be using longer lasting pads.

alx 03-01-2016 09:20 AM

most mb stock rotors have lip from the factory.

dealer practice is to replace pads and rotors. as per wis they never turn rotors.

DaveW68 03-01-2016 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by alx (Post 6724076)
most mb stock rotors have lip from the factory.

dealer practice is to replace pads and rotors. as per wis they never turn rotors.

The new OEM rotors are pretty thick and have no lip on them. Hard to believe this car is getting its 3rd set of pads at only 33k miles. I'm guessing the OEM pads must be very soft to only last 16k miles a pop.

FCPEuro 03-01-2016 12:48 PM

Brakes are reasonably priced for your car. Looks like you'd be at $575 in parts to the the front and rear rotors, pads, sensors.

--Kyle B



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5a0309f248.jpg

mercedesbenzs55 03-01-2016 01:02 PM

Zimmerman?? Are those Jewish brakes?

Shalom

FCPEuro 03-01-2016 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by mercedesbenzs55 (Post 6724332)
Zimmerman?? Are those Jewish brakes?

Shalom


That's probably the funniest thing I'm going to hear today

:):)

--Kyle

DaveW68 03-01-2016 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by mercedesbenzs55 (Post 6724332)
Zimmerman?? Are those Jewish brakes?

Shalom

Yes, they were blessed by a Rabbi for your safety.

1bad540 03-01-2016 01:32 PM

I hav the Zimmerman coated rotors on my x5, I did pads and rotors on that in 2013 and just swapped the pads for akebonos as the pads were done. Rotors still look great. also swapped my s550 pads for akebonos, wayyy better. If you guys are still on stock benz pads with all that crazy dust your crazy.

mercedesbenzs55 03-01-2016 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by DaveW68 (Post 6724376)
Yes, they were blessed by a Rabbi for your safety.

Kosher!

Mike5215 03-01-2016 05:26 PM

Zimmerman brakes work exactly like OEM brakes with one minor difference. Each time the brake pedal is depressed, the car's synthesized female navi voice says the phrase, "Oy! Again with the stopping?"

It's jarring at first but eventually you get used to it.

DaveW68 03-01-2016 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Mike5215 (Post 6724712)
Zimmerman brakes work exactly like OEM brakes with one minor difference. Each time the brake pedal is depressed, the car's synthesized female navi voice says the phrase, "Oy! Again with the stopping?"

It's jarring at first but eventually you get used to it.

I believe that is only an option with the newer COMAND systems.


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