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Old 07-02-2018, 02:17 AM
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Considering a 2012 S550 - good purchase?

Found a couple of well-optioned 2012 S550 for $27K-$30K.

Is this a good purchase overall? Or would you recommend steering away from it? They have around 90K miles, which is getting up there. The only thing I already dread is the outdated COMAND. I wish those units were easier to upgrade. It really makes the car almost obsolete because I only use Spotify in the car. Otherwise they look great.

The things that matter most to me are driver seat comfort and back support, ventilated front seats, and maximum Spotify compatibility. Are there any cars that match the S-Class in driver seat comfort and back support?
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What matters most to you in a car is "Spotify"?
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What matters most to you in a car is "Spotify"?
Yes and your approval of that is very important to mcr.
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What matters most to you in a car is "Spotify"?
Along with the other things I mentioned, yes. We are all different people with different priorities. It is implied that, if I am looking at the S-Class, I probably know a thing or two about cars, so I didn't wanna mention everything else. But I want to get in the car and have a smooth Spotify experience without taking the phone out of my pocket if possible.

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Tune 2 air. Problem solved for $100.
I already have a bluetooth adapter in my current car but it does require me to take the phone out and use the app. I was hoping the 2012 S550 would have some minimal integration with Spotify, but it looks like it wasn't there yet.

Anything else I should be aware of? Is the car otherwise a great buy?
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I already have a bluetooth adapter in my current car but it does require me to take the phone out and use the app. I was hoping the 2012 S550 would have some minimal integration with Spotify, but it looks like it wasn't there yet.
You could get a mount for your phone like so many Uber drivers use.

Anything else I should be aware of? Is the car otherwise a great buy?
I thought you had that part covered?

It is implied that, if I am looking at the S-Class, I probably know a thing or two about cars, so I didn't wanna mention everything else.
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Originally Posted by EasyPhil
You could get a mount for your phone like so many Uber drivers use.



I thought you had that part covered?
I really dislike using the phone at all when driving. It's distracting and dangerous no matter how good a driver you are. I know I'll be tempted to fiddle with it. Can't wait for Android Automotive to come out. The era of proprietary car infotainment is over.

Never owned the S550 specifically, so wanted to get firsthand accounts. I meant I know enough to know what cars to look at, and the S-Class is at the top of my list.
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I have Tune2Air in my 2013 with IOS, if that matters, the experience is pretty OEM I’d say. It starts playing the song from where it was left of when I get back in the car after turning it off uncless the music source has been changed from the car. It controls through all native buttons and shows song name. The only thing it doesn’t do is the artwork. This is with a third app music app but I doubt Spotify would be any different. Hope that helps.
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I have an '08 and the Tune2Air is seamless, easy, fast.

As far as seats/comfort - I don't love the seats in any event, but they're fine. Be forewarned though that the mutli-contour dynamic seats (with the individually controllable air-filled lumbar, shoulders, seat back and seat cushion side bolsters) are finicky and in my experience have about a 5 year life-span, tops, before leaks emerge. To replace the bladders at the dealer it's about $1,100-$1,400 per side. And they're still finnicky even when new. I had my drivers side done 2 or 3 times, once very shortly after the replacements were in. It is potentially DIY'able if you're the sort.

To tell if they're working on any car, for each side - turn them up to the max (or very near); drive around for at least 10 minutes (sometimes the system can take a while to react to a leak, eventually going to the deflate default); then go into the seat control settings and see if they have maintained their setting (sometimes it's hard to tell while driving on short drive in a car you don't know whether or not any particular bladder has lost air or stopped functioning). If not, then they're leaking or having problems. If you try to inflate them and the indicator keeps falling back to zero, that's also a bladder problem.

And, the seat coolers are very, very mild. I had an Escalade with seat coolers and it was like the seats had their own air-conditioning. The S not so much. It's a very gentle drawing away of air. The seat cooler's are a compliment to an otherwise effective and satisfying HVAC situation, taking off that little edge of heat that could make your back sweaty. Sometimes.
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Do not get this car (or any W221). You will not have the "smooth" Spotify experience you desire. Perhaps you'd be interested in a new or pre-owned Volvo - one that is new enough to have their Sensus Connect system. It seemed better than the Spotify integration in even the latest BMW.

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. But I want to get in the car and have a smooth Spotify experience without taking the phone out of my pocket if possible.

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Thank you everyone for your responses, I appreciate them. The bluetooth dongle solution is good enough. I just want to get in the car and have it play where it left off.

I test drove the car and was impressed with the dynamic seats. I like how they support you when you turn. I passed because this particular one was not taken care of.

I am still on the fence; I definitely do not want to deal with any air bladders leaking. I wonder if that problem's been fixed in 2012-2013 models.

And I cannot drive Volvo or anything else. Like many of you I suspect, I am addicted to Mercedes.
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The side bolster on my 2013 with 45k miles has started to leak. So there’s you have it. There’s no guarantee on these things and bladder issues are among the less troublesome items that can go wrong on these cars. If you are not willing to deal with it or shell out the money for others to deal with it on a small thing like this, I don’t think this car is for you.
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my old 2013 S550 w/ 73k miles is for sale for $31k...
https://www.gravityautosatlanta.com/...***-c-1745.htm

Hopefully they can come down on the price..on my new W222 they only gave me $25k on trade.
I am in no way associated and will benefit from the sale of the car, just want the car to have a nice owner.
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Originally Posted by Stephen513
my old 2013 S550 w/ 73k miles is for sale for $31k...
https://www.gravityautosatlanta.com/...***-c-1745.htm

Hopefully they can come down on the price..on my new W222 they only gave me $25k on trade.
I am in no way associated and will benefit from the sale of the car, just want the car to have a nice owner.
Nice car. How much did you get when you traded it in?
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Nice car. How much did you get when you traded it in?
$25k
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$25k
That's fair. How much better is the 2015, in your opinion? What are the standout new features that you love the most?
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The 2012-2013 S Classes do not look dated at all, but when you step inside you can tell the car's tech is based from 2007. My iPhone 7 could not do bluetooth music playing because its software was too new for the car. However, the telephone connectivity did work. Inside is a nicer place with more room and most noticeably more elbow room. I got the upgraded nappa leather, so that is a very nice upgrade over the standard leather I had in my 2013. Also, the whole dashboard is stitched with contrast stitching and the soft touch materials and materials in general are much nicer. The most obvious things are the tech features (360 cam, Distronic, hands-free access trunk, LED door handle and mirror lighting, LED headlights, dual high res screens, etc.)
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Originally Posted by Drives550
I have an '08 and the Tune2Air is seamless, easy, fast.

As far as seats/comfort - I don't love the seats in any event, but they're fine. Be forewarned though that the mutli-contour dynamic seats (with the individually controllable air-filled lumbar, shoulders, seat back and seat cushion side bolsters) are finicky and in my experience have about a 5 year life-span, tops, before leaks emerge. To replace the bladders at the dealer it's about $1,100-$1,400 per side. And they're still finnicky even when new. I had my drivers side done 2 or 3 times, once very shortly after the replacements were in. It is potentially DIY'able if you're the sort.

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And, the seat coolers are very, very mild. I had an Escalade with seat coolers and it was like the seats had their own air-conditioning. The S not so much. It's a very gentle drawing away of air. The seat cooler's are a compliment to an otherwise effective and satisfying HVAC situation, taking off that little edge of heat that could make your back sweaty. Sometimes.
I have the same car. An 08 with 125,000 on clock. they say I need a dynamic seat module. Does not hold air in some parts. Either way, I want to keep the car up to spec but I can ride in that car just as it is and it will be very comfortable. I guess it is where to spend money and when.
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Originally Posted by Stephen513
my old 2013 S550 w/ 73k miles is for sale for $31k...
https://www.gravityautosatlanta.com/...***-c-1745.htm

Hopefully they can come down on the price..on my new W222 they only gave me $25k on trade.
I am in no way associated and will benefit from the sale of the car, just want the car to have a nice owner.
So they are selling for $6k more

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