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Old Aug 29, 2019 | 12:17 PM
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ABC tandem pump noise

Hi people I have a 08 S600 with 46k on it and I was wondering if the abc pumps are known for being noisy I replaced the alternator 2 idler pulleys and the sep belt I checked the tensioner and a/c clutch all are smooth I feel the engine should be quieter any feed back out there ? Thank You
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Old Aug 29, 2019 | 12:30 PM
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Hi people I have a 08 S600 with 46k on it and I was wondering if the abc pumps are known for being noisy I replaced the alternator 2 idler pulleys and the sep belt I checked the tensioner and a/c clutch all are smooth I feel the engine should be quieter any feed back out there ? Thank You
Can you give more detail? Does it change under load (raise/lower the car, do the RPMs change at all?) Is the engine quiet in the car itself? Or standing in front? To be honest, outside the car, especially with the hood open, the S600 isn't particularly quiet.
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Old Aug 29, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Davids600
Hi people I have a 08 S600 with 46k on it and I was wondering if the abc pumps are known for being noisy I replaced the alternator 2 idler pulleys and the sep belt I checked the tensioner and a/c clutch all are smooth I feel the engine should be quieter any feed back out there ? Thank You
No, the ABC pump is supposed to be dead quite.

When the double pump ( ABC + Power steering ) fails they tend to alarm you initial with a whine when you start the car, cold. Later it will be more pronounced and you will get white even later red warnings.

Sometimes you can see the disc in front of the pump, wobble. That is not good and the first sign the pump is about to fail.

What you don't want, is the pump to fail, and release debris into the hydraulic circuit, since the filter is sitting in the return line. ABC is a very delicate, sensible system, need TLC on a regular basis.
Has the system ever had a flush ?

A test is to take off the belt, and let the engine run for 30 sec. That will tell you if the noise comes from the engine or the attached parts. 30s will not damage the engine.

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Can you give more detail? Does it change under load (raise/lower the car, do the RPMs change at all?) Is the engine quiet in the car itself? Or standing in front? To be honest, outside the car, especially with the hood open, the S600 isn't particularly quiet.
The noise can be heard in and out of the car it increases and decreases with rpm can hear it in car when the car down shifts while slowing down the engine is whisper quiet that’s why I’m thinking abc pump I purchased the car 18 moths ago and it has always been there only drove it 3000 miles since I got it from Cali it’s very special car to me it is I’m trying to keep it 100% it never seen bad weather and is mint !
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The noise can be heard in and out of the car it increases and decreases with rpm can hear it in car when the car down shifts while slowing down the engine is whisper quiet that’s why I’m thinking abc pump I purchased the car 18 moths ago and it has always been there only drove it 3000 miles since I got it from Cali it’s very special car to me it is I’m trying to keep it 100% it never seen bad weather and is mint !
Yeah, if it moves with rpm that could be a problem with the pump.

If I needed a new pump, I think I'd go this route. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Servo-Pump-...1/263259586468

Might take a while longer, but they really seem to know their stuff. And price is great
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