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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 06:46 PM
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bluetooth adapter, wich one?

I've red almost all the thread here and Bovee (tune2air) seems like the best option it seems.

I would need a little help from the community as i didn't take delivery of the car yet and don't know wich model will be needed as there is a few variant.

My car is a 2009 S450 Canadian model with the logic7 sound system.

Who have the bluetooth module and wich one did you get?

Just wanna make sure i order the right one

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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 07:24 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 12:44 PM
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all (decent) modern cars have TWO separate Bluetooth connections (BT) BT telephony and BT Media Steaming, they are independent (although muting between each should be handled by the car if they manged to do things properly) eventually pairing both as one step became standard, so some may not realise its really two things happening

which 221 got what is not that clear cut

2009 facelift cars ought to have BT telephony (I don't know if standard and its probably different between markets anyway). And no idea if BT media streaming was even an option. I think a wired media connection was still an option (to which you could add the tune2air)

2005 to 2008 early cars don't have any workable BT at all. Although an option did give an almost useless BT idea, it doesn't really do anything anyone would want - its a system incapable of pairing a phone so it functions correctly - at the time the BT feature included with the optional wired in phone system was only comms to a headset or merc specific in car only BT handset. Although if there is a UHI socket, you can add devices to allow BT telephony (phone only)

the early cars have NO proper way to do BT music streaming. You can try and find a rare ipod interface kit which can allow some functionality for BT streaming when adding a viseeo or bovee tune2air device (others should work - however moving tracks vols etc. will be interesting with the others)

I wouldn't entertain the bodge on 3.5mm din aux in idea and having a totally dumb BT connection where nothing on the car talks - other than vol in

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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 11:09 AM
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Hi,

Just get a Tune2Airand plug it into the iPod connector and connect via Bluetooth. Been using it for years, no problems and it it a cheap solution.

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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 11:35 AM
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Only caveat, some older iPhones, I believe 7. They just don't connect for media. This is documented and can be further researched easily.
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JDowney
Hi,

Just get a Tune2Airand plug it into the iPod connector and connect via Bluetooth. Been using it for years, no problems and it it a cheap solution.

Jeff
Hi Jeff!

Can you link a picture of the one you have? Seems there is a few configurations.

Do you have a connector on yours or just the box?

Thanks!
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facelift 2009 on, can have a socket in the glove box for a proprietary socket that various lead sets can plug into. one gives a 30 pin socket for old apple devices
earlier cars have nothing, an expensive pretty nasty adaptor (and now extremely rare - with the loom you must have) can be fitted under the comand unit. This gives one lead only with the 30 pin apple connector in the glove box

a genuine apple 30 pin to lightening adaptor is supposed to allow the sound signals to pass,
on the old interface (pre facelift) there could be an issue with later phones. Apple changed between 5v and 12v.

Allegedly white 30 pin lead is only one voltage, a later black 30pin lead is supposed to do both (but I don't think it does). It could be the revised interface 2 (for earlier pre facelift cars) is what allows both voltages to work. But these are so rare I think there's about 2 in existence (they also go as loud as other sources and don't introduce random errors into the vehicle's can bus)

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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 10:09 AM
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The car is a 2009 pre-facelift.

Do they all come with the 30 pin connectors in the glovebox?

I guess the best will be to wait until i pick up the car and see wich will fit
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Originally Posted by McJules
The car is a 2009 pre-facelift.

Do they all come with the 30 pin connectors in the glovebox?

I guess the best will be to wait until i pick up the car and see wich will fit

No as I very clearly wrote above.... "the early cars have NO proper way to do BT music streaming. You can try and find a rare ipod interface kit which can allow some functionality for BT streaming when adding a viseeo or bovee tune2air device (others should work - however moving tracks vols etc. will be interesting with the others)"
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on the old interface (pre facelift) there could be an issue with later phones. Apple changed between 5v and 12v.

Allegedly white 30 pin lead is only one voltage, a later black 30pin lead is supposed to do both (but I don't think it does). It could be the revised interface 2 (for earlier pre facelift cars) is what allows both voltages to work. But these are so rare I think there's about 2 in existence (they also go as loud as other sources and don't introduce random errors into the vehicle's can bus)
the later "non faulty interface adapter 2 " actually has a different cable...
from the black box network cable end under the comand unit, there is a sperate 12v connection that goes in to the later loom. At the glove box end this lead looks the same (has a white) plug and with the additional power connection is how it does either 5v or 12v ( I guess)
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