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Old May 21, 2020 | 04:06 PM
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MOST ring fails on hot days

Frequently, when I leave my car in the sun, the audio system conks out after playing music for 10 seconds or so after startup. Turning the car off for 5 minutes and starting it back up allow sound to come through again for a few seconds, and then it usually dies again. Radio, voice control, etc. are all inoperative, so it looks like something on the MOST ring is dying but I'm not sure what. I've taken the amplifier out of the car and checked for any signs of liquid, damage, corrosion, etc. and I've confirmed that the amp's fan works just fine. The issue is definitely heat related, as the car went all winter without a problem (the issue appeared late last summer).

Can anyone provide me some information on the MOST ring in the 2011 S550? I have a MOST bypass loop, so if I can get a list of components on the ring and their locations, I could probably try and bypass them next time the MOST ring dies. This should help me isolate it down to one component that's overheating.
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Old May 22, 2020 | 11:00 AM
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everything works bar the sound and the radio station names and numbers have vanished but all other elements work ???
if so its the amp in the boot that's dying, they all do it
and if you open up an new one vs a dead one they look the same, you never see the cause of the failure... if you clean of the dust on the old one (and we not talking about water destroyed one just clean used vs new)
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Old May 22, 2020 | 11:05 AM
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I think if any MOST component fails, the entire ring fails and the symptoms are always the same regardless of the failed component. Basically, I’d like to confirm the amp itself is dying before spending $1k on a new amp...
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Old May 22, 2020 | 12:27 PM
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One way to troubleshoot is with a can of freeze spray. A can of compressed dusting spray held upside down will do it too. Hit each suspect component with enough cold air to cool it down and see if you can narrow it down to one part of the system.
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Old May 23, 2020 | 03:06 PM
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why not answer the question posed ?

when you loose sound, if lost from ALL sources AND the radio display looses all it characters ? then its 100% the amp. They ALL DIE and that's HOW you know
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Old May 23, 2020 | 06:07 PM
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09 Mercedes S550 power supply module location

I’m new to this forum and really need help to find
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Old May 24, 2020 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Ruiz
I’m new to this forum and really need help to find

power comes from the battery or the alternator

the module that controls is in the boot.... there's a 20 x 32 inch panel at the back of the boot... hidden behind is lots of stuff...
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Old May 25, 2020 | 06:43 AM
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Don’t see I have. 09 s550 it’s differnt from 08
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Originally Posted by Joe Ruiz
Don’t see I have. 09 s550 it’s differnt from 08

they went from 2 battery's, a small one under the bonnet and massive 25kg hidden one in the boot,
in later cars these tend to have one big battery in the front and one aux battery (somewhere) and by the big battery the control module sits beside it and they go wrong... and cost a fortune
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Originally Posted by Joe Ruiz
Don’t see I have. 09 s550 it’s differnt from 08
MY09 main battery in engine compartment, backup battery in dash, no power supply control module. If main battery checks fine best to have someone pull fault codes to definitively diagnose MOST ring problems or consumer shutoff if this is what you are complaining about. If you want confirmation post VIN.
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Old May 25, 2020 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
MY09 main battery in engine compartment, backup battery in dash, no power supply control module. If main battery checks fine best to have someone pull fault codes to definitively diagnose MOST ring problems or consumer shutoff if this is what you are complaining about. If you want confirmation post VIN.
oh ok so I found power supply it’s in passenger side foot well do those go bad and what’s the shut off u talking about
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Old May 25, 2020 | 03:24 PM
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Vin is WDDNG71X59A243287
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Original OP was complaining about radio turning off after several minutes this can be caused by weak battery, system shuts off consumers to save power. You never specified exact problem you are experiencing so assumed this was part of it.
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Old May 26, 2020 | 07:38 AM
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I bought it at action it doesn’t do anything just lights come on I bought a new battery for it no crank just cluster and some stuff works
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Old May 26, 2020 | 07:45 AM
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Is this all the features of this car in the attached file u sent
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MB data card lists equipment, engine & transmission serial #s, color codes, etc. If you have not already done so have someone do a quick test using MB diagnostics codes to pull fault codes.
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Old May 26, 2020 | 06:41 PM
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Someone with xentry going come check it out sometime today but wanted to see what I can check on my end I have a vpecker scan tool tryin figure out bought car at action dirt cheap
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Old May 26, 2020 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
MB data card lists equipment, engine & transmission serial #s, color codes, etc. If you have not already done so have someone do a quick test using MB diagnostics codes to pull fault codes.
also quick question the powesuppy found under foot well under dash does the 08 have it in the trunk and this is part number

2215400401

dose the 09 have it
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Old May 27, 2020 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
MB data card lists equipment, engine & transmission serial #s, color codes, etc. If you have not already done so have someone do a quick test using MB diagnostics codes to pull fault codes.
also 2215408462 the zgw said there is a open or short circuit can this module be bad and make car not start and when replacing do I have to program
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Both EPC and MB parts source say 2215400401 is not valid for your vehicle. 2219006702 central gateway (CGW) current part # is 2219006702 requires Xentry (MB diagnostics) to transfer data from existing unit to replacement.






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Originally Posted by konigstiger
MB data card lists equipment, engine & transmission serial #s, color codes, etc. If you have not already done so have someone do a quick test using MB diagnostics codes to pull fault codes.
how can u see if engine not seized
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pull oil filler cap off to see the cam chain, and put a socket on the crank pulley.....

if it shows in diagnostic, you may be able to see live data of the cam position as you turn it over..... might want to be careful it doesn't start whilts playing...
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pull oil filler cap off to see the cam chain, and put a socket on the crank pulley.....

if it shows in diagnostic, you may be able to see live data of the cam position as you turn it over..... might want to be careful it doesn't start whilts playing...
didn’t spin it was sized I sold it
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Originally Posted by cstevenson
Can anyone provide me some information on the MOST ring in the 2011 S550? I have a MOST bypass loop, so if I can get a list of components on the ring and their locations, I could probably try and bypass them next time the MOST ring dies. This should help me isolate it down to one component that's overheating.










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