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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 09:31 PM
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i have a 2007 s550 with a bad idle when stopped at light or when sitting. ive changed engine and tranny mounts... spark plugs with no change. anybody else have that problem. i had a cadillac with similar symptoms once and turned out to be a leaking intake gasket which smoothed it out. any help would be nice.. 156000 miles
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 01:36 AM
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Hi 1sweat,

Any number of things can cause a rough idle. I understand that you have tried replacing mounts and spark plugs to no avail and that your vehicle has approximately 156,000 miles on the odometer. With this in mind, it may be worthwhile to look into other maintenance items commonly serviced in high mileage vehicles. I believe Mercedes-Benz recommends replacing the fuel filter at 150,000 miles. Beyond that, I would look at the ignition coils, MAF sensor, throttle body, and intake manifold. It can be challenging to diagnose without exacting information and so many things that can be at fault.

As with any diagnostic and repair work, the Mercedes STAR diagnostic tool can be handy with pinpointing issues. If you have access to this diagnostic tool, it may show a fault code despite no warning or error messages displayed on the dash—or the car's computer system may not register an issue with the idle yet.

Keep us posted as you endeavor to solve the problem causing your rough idle.

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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by seiltaenzerin
Hi 1sweat,

Any number of things can cause a rough idle. I understand that you have tried replacing mounts and spark plugs to no avail and that your vehicle has approximately 156,000 miles on the odometer. With this in mind, it may be worthwhile to look into other maintenance items commonly serviced in high mileage vehicles. I believe Mercedes-Benz recommends replacing the fuel filter at 150,000 miles. Beyond that, I would look at the ignition coils, MAF sensor, throttle body, and intake manifold. It can be challenging to diagnose without exacting information and so many things that can be at fault.

As with any diagnostic and repair work, the Mercedes STAR diagnostic tool can be handy with pinpointing issues. If you have access to this diagnostic tool, it may show a fault code despite no warning or error messages displayed on the dash—or the car's computer system may not register an issue with the idle yet.

Keep us posted as you endeavor to solve the problem causing your rough idle.

Best wishes,
Christopher
Okay I will look into getting a diagnosed thanks for the reply
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 08:54 AM
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My intermittent rough idle turned out to be a broken vacuum line that controls the air injection valves. Different engine, but if the V8 uses hard plastic line for vacuum actuated bits like the V12 does, I'd be checking those.
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 12:25 PM
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My intermittent rough idle turned out to be a broken vacuum line that controls the air injection valves. Different engine, but if the V8 uses hard plastic line for vacuum actuated bits like the V12 does, I'd be checking those.
Thank you very much I'm going to have my mechanic check that
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 02:27 PM
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CPS and coil packs all normal failures, but at that mileage should be on your second round so I'd expect you'd know about it

might even be TC lock up stuck on (that's normal too)

diagnostics?
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Old Jun 23, 2021 | 07:22 PM
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Could be bad gasoline carbon buildup..anything in electronic fuel management system.....anything.....don’t replace any more parts without a thorough diagnostic. Mb star is your next step.
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Originally Posted by 1sweat
i have a 2007 s550 with a bad idle when stopped at light or when sitting. ive changed engine and tranny mounts... spark plugs with no change. anybody else have that problem. i had a cadillac with similar symptoms once and turned out to be a leaking intake gasket which smoothed it out. any help would be nice.. 156000 miles
When was it last time you poured a bottle of injector cleaner in the fuel tank?
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Old Jun 27, 2021 | 07:20 PM
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havnt tryed cleaning injectors yet
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When was it last time you poured a bottle of injector cleaner in the fuel tank?
not yet
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Originally Posted by 1sweat
i have a 2007 s550 with a bad idle when stopped at light or when sitting. ive changed engine and tranny mounts... spark plugs with no change. anybody else have that problem. i had a cadillac with similar symptoms once and turned out to be a leaking intake gasket which smoothed it out. any help would be nice.. 156000 miles
Start with a diagnostic before you start replacing parts. I had a bad idle/ misfire and used the Star system to determine which cylinder was the problem and in my case it was cylinder 2. I swapped the coil packs of cylinder 1 and 2 and the problem was now in cylinder 1 which meant that the coil pack was bad. Replacing the coil pack and clearing the error code resulted in smooth idling once again.
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Start with a diagnostic before you start replacing parts. I had a bad idle/ misfire and used the Star system to determine which cylinder was the problem and in my case it was cylinder 2. I swapped the coil packs of cylinder 1 and 2 and the problem was now in cylinder 1 which meant that the coil pack was bad. Replacing the coil pack and clearing the error code resulted in smooth idling once again.
Ok I will. Did you have the same engine also..w221 s550
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got it checked with star ..its getting a code pointing to the purge valve closed and bad # 6 coil.. will update on both this weekend
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