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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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The 2015 S600 made its press debut Monday at the Detroit Auto Show. The 2015 model will be available this spring and will have the head up display and touchpad as standard equipment. The show car looks to be iridium silver with a new designo interior (porcelain?) with buttons incorporated into the seat and seat back. Perhaps someone visiting the show can confirm the exterior and interior color. The new model also has improved emergency braking and an uptick in horsepower. An electric front windshield defroster is an option. Sounds like another winner and alternate to the impressive S63 AMG. No price was announced, but with the substantial list of standard equipment, the price will also be awesome!
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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Old Jan 14, 2014 | 09:49 PM
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Interior rivals some bespoke cars.
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 06:12 AM
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No 4 MATIC because additional 4 cylinders take up space that are normally reserved for 4 Matic's electronic systems therefore there is no room for 4 Matic gadgetry
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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 08:12 AM
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No 4 MATIC because additional 4 cylinders take up space that are normally reserved for 4 Matic's electronic systems therefore there is no room for 4 Matic gadgetry
You must be referring to the mechanics, the front differential and the front axles? The V12 engine probably does not leave enough space for those components. The electronic components that control 4-Matic features are exactly the same control units and components that exist on a RWD model, no additional electronics.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
You must be referring to the mechanics, the front differential and the front axles? The V12 engine probably does not leave enough space for those components. The electronic components that control 4-Matic features are exactly the same control units and components that exist on a RWD model, no additional electronics.
Thanks for confirmation , I wondered too why there were no 4 MATICs with V12 engines until I read an article at these forums linked to a car blog and they explained it well .
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 08:14 AM
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If any car in MB lineup needs AWD it's the V12 that needs it the most.
With a torque like it has ,it needs all the help it can get......
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:31 AM
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I am actually a little dissapointed with what I am reading of the new S600. No issues with the interior or included options, but the engine seems only an minor upgrade of the existing unit, ("3-valve technology") with just a small increase in displacement and a paltry 13hp upgrade in performance. Is that it? The w221 S600 was much more powerful compared to its rivals in its day. Sure, the S600 is not meant to be an AMG dynamically, but it should still be top of the class performance wise. I was hoping that MB had a secret new generation V12 in the works.

At the moment, the new S63 is looking a more attractive replacement to my w221 S600.

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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 03:22 AM
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I am actually a little dissapointed with what I am reading of the new S600. No issues with the interior or included options, but the engine seems only an minor upgrade of the existing unit, ("3-valve technology") with just a small increase in displacement and a paltry 13hp upgrade in performance. Is that it? The w221 S600 was much more powerful compared to its rivals in its day. Sure, the S600 is not meant to be an AMG dynamically, but it should still be top of the class performance wise. I was hoping that MB had a secret new generation V12 in the works.

At the moment, the new S63 is looking a more attractive replacement to my w221 S600.

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I still think you will miss the torque that's in the s600. My lease is up in 6months and I am seriously considering the new s600. I guess when you have driven a v12, you just can't go back to a v8.
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cjf_moraga
I am actually a little dissapointed with what I am reading of the new S600. No issues with the interior or included options, but the engine seems only an minor upgrade of the existing unit, ("3-valve technology") with just a small increase in displacement and a paltry 13hp upgrade in performance. Is that it? The w221 S600 was much more powerful compared to its rivals in its day. Sure, the S600 is not meant to be an AMG dynamically, but it should still be top of the class performance wise. I was hoping that MB had a secret new generation V12 in the works.

At the moment, the new S63 is looking a more attractive replacement to my w221 S600.

Chris
Honestly, The car will go 0-60 in perhaps 4.1/4.2 seconds.

I'm not the type to ask "How much power do you really need" or else I'd be an embarrassment to car fans everywhere. But exactly, what do you deem acceptable in a big luxury car or the way Mercedes Markets their cars.

Logically speaking, an S600 is the most luxurious car you can get from Mercedes. It does everything you would want a car to do. Top Speed would be north of 200mph if the car were delimited. Its 0-60 time is absolutely incredible.

The S65 is for those that want explosive and devastating power which you could barely keep on the road.

As a youngster, I was taught that some people will never be satisfied with anything, and correct me if I am wrong, but your post seems to air on that theory.

What exactly do you expect of an S600? Could you explain what it is missing?
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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Honestly, The car will go 0-60 in perhaps 4.1/4.2 seconds.

I'm not the type to ask "How much power do you really need" or else I'd be an embarrassment to car fans everywhere. But exactly, what do you deem acceptable in a big luxury car or the way Mercedes Markets their cars.

Logically speaking, an S600 is the most luxurious car you can get from Mercedes. It does everything you would want a car to do. Top Speed would be north of 200mph if the car were delimited. Its 0-60 time is absolutely incredible.

The S65 is for those that want explosive and devastating power which you could barely keep on the road.

As a youngster, I was taught that some people will never be satisfied with anything, and correct me if I am wrong, but your post seems to air on that theory.

What exactly do you expect of an S600? Could you explain what it is missing?
No its not quite that I am not satisfied with anything. Rather I was expressing a dissapointment that the new S600 still retains the same basic V12 that is more than 10 years old. It is one part of MB's showcase car that is not the very latest tech and 530hp is just a tweak and a little "underpowered" relative to what the w221 S600 was when compared to its peers of the time. I was hoping that MB would have dialed up the S600 a notch more than just 18hp, perhaps to where the w221 S65 used to be. (Given the S65 will go even higher) I would have been happy with 550hp to 600hp which is becoming more common at the very high end.

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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 09:38 AM
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The lack of AWD is really disappointing. And yes, it can get to 60 quickly but I don;t want wheel spin and tires chirping. I just want the car to waft silently and AWD would help with that by powering all 4 wheels when accelerating.

Not to mention the benefits when driving in rain, snow, and slipper surfaces, it is really disappointing Mercedes' ultimate car lacks AWD. I consider it the omission of a safety feature when AWD is now available with pretty much every other MB vehicle.
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Old Jan 19, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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The 2015 S600 made its press debut Monday at the Detroit Auto Show. The 2015 model will be available this spring and will have the head up display and touchpad as standard equipment. The show car looks to be iridium silver with a new designo interior (porcelain?) with buttons incorporated into the seat and seat back. Perhaps someone visiting the show can confirm the exterior and interior color. The new model also has improved emergency braking and an uptick in horsepower. An electric front windshield defroster is an option. Sounds like another winner and alternate to the impressive S63 AMG. No price was announced, but with the substantial list of standard equipment, the price will also be awesome!
I was at the Detroit Show on the Press Day and the car was Palladium Silver exterior with a designo Silk Beige / Titanium Grey Pearl Semi-Aniline Leather interior. Wood was designo Black Piano Lacquer.
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Too much for me but is worse with a contrasting color.
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Too much for me but is worse with a contrasting color.
Actually it seems as if only the designo S600 will have the puffy center arm rests and wider cross stitched seats. Standard S600 will have the same design throughout car used in an exclusive-trimmed S550.
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 01:03 PM
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ya the quilting isn't my favorite. Maybe they're too small of diamonds and a little too puffy. I prefer the std exclusive leather.
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Too much for me but is worse with a contrasting color.
I agree, the contrasting color makes it worse.
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Actually it seems as if only the designo S600 will have the puffy center arm rests and wider cross stitched seats. Standard S600 will have the same design throughout car used in an exclusive-trimmed S550.
Yes, normal S600 will have the Exclusive Nappa Leather interior just like on the S550 if ordered with Exclusive option (no diamonds on armrest). What is pictured is an optional designo Semi-Aniline Leather interior that will be opional on all S-Class models.
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