Germancar1

What makes you think the S Coupe isn't selling? DO you have anything to prove this? I ask because every dealer here can't keep them and they have orders on the books for them.

M

Wolfman

Agreed. They sell better than the CL's ever did.

While I was able to get a good discount on the coupes from several dealers, they simply haven't been discounted by MB (incentives, MF).

One dealer here received an Edition 1 back in with 2500 miles (trade-in to a S63 coupe). Sat there for a week or so and then they sold it on Ebay for $133k which I thought was completely overpriced for that used car.

Local dealers here were sourcing coupes from around the country and I doubt that MN is a hotbed for coupe sales...

2014CL600

I can only go by what my friend who is a executive at MBZ tells me. He isn't allowed to let me quote figures but tells me they are not selling as anticipated. The W216 didn't sell very well either. The W215 was the real sales hero. They haven't been able to match those numbers yet. If they are selling so well and cant keep them then why hasn't your dealer had them transferred to sell?? My dealership is one of the highest grossing sales dealership in the country, even higher than MBZ of Beverly Hills and they have been sitting on two S Coupe for 3 months now (one 63 and one 550). If they were so popular they would have had them transferred for sale instead of just sitting on them. Also, the 16's are coming out so, if they were doing so well, why would these not be transferred to be sold? Your 650i Coupe is a much finer designed car. I can tell you production is 1/2 of the previous CL and 3/4 of the W215. That is what makes me know, FACTS not opinion. I admit I do not like the S Coupe. I will say I was at the dealership yesterday and they had a new Black 2016 GTS ( I am not a fan of black so Ill have to special order mine but I do see one in my near future. I will also be keeping my two 600's and my Bentley.

2014CL600

As for not discounting them you are totally wrong. My dealership is offing massive discounts on them and still no sale. I have also seen 2 Edition 1's for sale on Ebay and an S 65 Coupe and they weren't even a month old. I emailed them and asked why there were selling them so fast and at such a heavy loss. You don't want to know what they said but it wasn't good. I told them I had had first refusal on the 1st Edition 1 built and turned in down. I was not impressed. Who wants a car with a fixed glass roof? What is the purpose? Either have it work or don't have it at all. The dash is vile. It has a nick name call the, "Whale Tail". It doesn't have any wood to speak of, it doesn't have a rear well drive offering, it doesn't have a 600 series, it doesn't have the refinements that the CL did. the only thing it has going for it is the technology that it offers. If your dealer was sourcing coupes from around the country, then why haven't they taken these off my dealerships hands, LONG AGO? The car has so many awkward styling queues and you cant tell it from any other model, esp. the E Coupe. Its doesn't look like a 150 plus car. I am sorry if your offended facts are what they are. The car is not selling as expected. They are working on a re-working of the car as we speak.

Germancar1

I'm pretty much convinced you don't know what you're talking about. Until you can actually prove that the S Coupe doesn't sell with actual sales numbers then you aren't doing anything but transferring your hate of the S Coupe into what you think is happening with their sales.

Just because ONE dealer has 2 coupe sitting around doesn't mean that they don't have orders for others because not everyone likes what is sitting around and it doesn't mean that other dealers are having the same issue. YOUR dealership doesn't represent the whole country. NO dealer in the DFW area is discounting them much if at all right now nor are they discounting them in the DC area. That I know because I've checked here in DFW and a friend is shopping for one in DC.

"The car is not selling as expected. They are working on a re-working of the car as we speak."

Prove it. Yeah that rework is called a FACELIFT. It happens ever 3-4 years on a Mercedes-Benz.

You don't know what you're talking about.

M

Germancar1

Just a quick look at the previous CL sales numbers for the U.S.:

YR... units sold
2002 3938
2003 3377
2004 2683
2005 1320
2006 1312
2007 3672
2008 2733
2009 1220
2010 1035
2011 943
2012 723
2013 476
2014 221

Looks like to me the previous CL nearly matched the one before that right out the gate if you compare 2007 to 2002, no data for 2000 and 2001 was given.

Now it will be impossible to tell what the numbers are for the S Coupe since it is not broken out anymore because it is a "S-Class" like the sedans.

M

Germancar1

You are totally clueless. The S Coupe doesn't have any wood? What the hell is that on the dash? NO RWD offering? What is the S65, RWD!!!!! Who knows or cares why they haven't taken the ones your dealership has, maybe nobody wants them for a reason, color, options etc. There is no S600 coupe because the previous CL600 DID NOT SELL. Like having a S600 version would help sales when the previous CL600 was nothing more than a showroom fixture.

M

2014CL600

First, let me address the most important issue. Where are the 2000 and 2001 production figures as they are the highest of all? Second, I am more informed than you will ever be (Germancar1). I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else. I post based on fact. If you don't agree, that is on you.

Germancar1

Great, but until you actually provide proof that the S Coupe "isn't selling" then I don't agree because that doesn't jive with the rest of the market. Proof, not just opinions and hate of the new car would go a long way here. You don't even know what the new car has, no RWD, no wood...hilarious.

Hell the volume CL, the CL550 didn't have RWD after 2009 either. 4Matic helps sales in more of Mercedes' bigger, northern and midwest markets! You are totally clueless.

If you can find the sales numbers for 2000 and 2001 by all means post them I'm sure they're even higher, not arguing that. My only issue is that you don't present anything but hearsay.

You haven't posted any FACTS!!!

M

2014CL600

From my source at Mercedes
4,432 units built in 2000
4,147 units built in 2001
1,439 units built for 2015 includes S550, S63 and S65 Coupes. 2016 Models are slated for production starting next week. For the month of Aug the factory will be closed and will restart production in Sept. These are FINAL NUMBERS FROM MB.

Also, there is a glut in the market for 2015 S Sedans causing a backlog of 2016's being shipping. Look on other post for that information.



Lastly,I am not going to argue anymore with you on this matter or this post. We are taking up someone else's post and it isn't right. If you want to start another thread feel free but this post is about the gentleman, who is happy to be getting his new S Sedan, not your disagreement with my knowledge of MB products and trying to one up me on something you clearly have no stake in.

Germancar1

Finally some facts about the past. Got any about the current car other than what you think about how it is selling? Not trying to one up, just pointing out the obvious mistakes in your post.

M

2014CL600

Flint, enjoy your new car. I know your excited!!!!!!

Wolfman

Btw. I was pointing out that MB doesn't have any incentives and a non-discounted MF for 2015 coupes (unless that changed for July). The dealers are certainly discounting the car just like all MB's, BMW's, or that matter Bentleys and Rolls.

MB certainly doesn't expect high number for the coupe. It is a niche car just like the CL before it and will certainly be eclipsed by the S-Class convertible.

I personally think that the coupes are quite beautiful

yamanote

Simply found it amusing that someone with a final year CL (while a great car- undeniably one of the worst depreciating cars on the market) would comment on depreciation. Having Designo options does not help its value as much as you seem to imply.

I just traded in my W12 coupe on a new V8S... if you think Bentleys don't depreciate much at all, you may be in for a surprise if you go and find what your Speed is really worth today

In my area dealerships are selling S Coupes just fine. Perhaps a market specific oddity in your area.

The fixed glass roof can be had with Magic Sky Control. It features an electrically controlled layer which can be tinted to darkness or turned completely clear to allow light into the cabin. While you may personally prefer to have a regular opening sunroof, the market today demands a 'panoramic' roof, even if fixed.

Your Bentley doesn't even have a sunroof or glass roof to speak of!

I see five wooden trims available on the DOG and one carbon fibre option.

The RWD S65 is available. The RWD CL550 was discontinued at its MOPF changeover too.

Can you describe what refinements you speak of that in the 216 that is not present in the 217?

flint350

For me, the wait is over. My car arrived at the dealer today from the dock and is being inspected and prepped for delivery tomorrow (Saturday). On a side note, I'm sure that even though I'm bringing a certified check for the agreed/exact sales price, they will try a few upsells. Any advice on this?

The maintenance contract is one I would consider if discounted and I don't want the age-old dealer special coatings/protectants. I already know some specialty shops that do that better and cheaper. Appreciate any further insights and advice. If it matters, the car is Diamond White S550 4matic, with black nappa leather and black poplar wood exclusive trim. Thanks.

teksurv

Enjoy Flint! Tomorrow is going to be a fun day I am sure. I received my 2015 E recently and while though not nearly the same class as yours, I know the feeling!

flint350

Well, it's done. Took delivery this morning and I'm finally an actual owner and driver of a Diamond White S550 4matic with black Nappa leather. After a couple of hours at the dealer for the delivery, paperwork and sitting in the car to learn most of the features, I drove home safely and in great comfort. Let the journey begin...

MTrauman

Congrats! Post pictures when you can.

LovinMercedes

Congrats on the new car. Let's see lots of pictures!

punjabi22

Congrats on a wonderful purchase. enjoy. I am eagerly awaiting my 2016 mid to late oct. Pls post pics of u r ride when u can.

kath00

Congratulations! So I put in a 2016 S550 order on July 10th. When is a reasonable time to expect it to arrive at my dealer in Cali? Thanks! Oh, and please post pix. I have the same color coming.

MTrauman

One of the most important questions the dealer should answer for you first is to tell you your "production decade". MB's production schedule is divided into three "decades" each month. The first decade is the first ten days of the month, the second decade of 10 days is the 11th - 20th, etc. I put my order in at the end of June for a 2016 S Class with a production slot of the second decade of August--this slot depends on how many open slots or allocations a dealer has at any particular time. So going into the Port of Baltimore my car should arrive to the dealer about September 15th +/- about 10 days (this gives a week or two at the Port in Bremerhaven, Germany and 12 days at sea + about a week from discharge in Baltimore to a short distance to PA--I have done this a number of times with my most recent purchase of a '14 S Class in December 2013). The Port in Long Beach will take a couple of weeks longer due to at sea travel through the Panama Canal, etc. Additionally, it depends on how far you are in CA from Long Beach since all the west coast MB cars come into Long Beach and are processed at the new Vehicle Preparation Center at the old Boeing/DC Jets facility in Long Beach.

kath00

Thank you! I will find out. My sales guy is on vacay for 10 days. How dare he?? HAHA

ajm0623

talk to the new car sales manager. or the general manager. or even the f&i manager. if you want to know right now. the salesman is not the *only* one that would know those deets. just sayin'