If memory serves correct they move roughly 7000 a year here in the U.S. It's a token at best. As a previous owner of 3 BMW's from 2011 and 2012 I can say they completely gave up on the ultimate driving concept. My W222 is a far better performer than my 2012 750il

 

Very high quality video of the new 7 in motion...love that exterior color and the interior looks quite nice. The new 7's base MSRP is ~$84,000.00 ($10k less than the S).

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...99028883,d.aWw

Almost traded my '13 XKR Portfolio Conv. on a new M6 Conv. but the seat bottoms were like bricks...hope these are thoroughly reworked for the 7.

 

^true base is less, but there are so many things to add on, the price goes up quickly.....oh no! not the Jag!
I hope to own some sort of Jaguar someday

 

Base price for the new 7 is actually $98k if you want to compare BMW to the S-class since the S550 is the smallest model in the U.S.
The 740 is a V6 model and would compare to a S350/S400 in Europe.

 

I must admit that since I started this thread, I have browsed a BMW forum and it is amazing what has been happening with the V8 engines in the 750's these past few years. If it is half as bad as what I read, it's a DISASTER and I'm amazed that I haven't heard anything about this in the media. There are a lot of well heeled lawyers driving around in the big 7's and when things get this bad, you would think that some sort of a class action would be filed.

Well, can we imagine that they have now fixed their V8 once and for all? My guess is probably not.

 

Agree 100% I saw pictures you posted in response to my Individual thread. Dynamite difference. Night and day. The day my mother went to look at a 2014 7 series - she was totally unimpressed. It was replacing my dads 2001 BMW 740Li Protection vehicle. The 2014 she first sat in was the must dull design inside. Blah colors, very dull, dry, nothing spirit lifting. Then we went upstairs to 2nd floor (of BMW Manhattan) and saw the individual. Took my mother about 2 minutes to call my dad to say she found his car. It was THAT amazing. It's bentley / rolls quality in both craftsmanship and design.

Dad's going to take a look at the new Individual when it comes out - the seating inside with the new stitching and piping is outrageous. Really outstanding design job on that front.

 

yes I know, but that's what we get here as base models. Good news it's BMW super smooth twin turbo inline 6 (which happens to be completely reworked for '16). There will also only be a long wheelbase offered here, so the base is an 'L". The new carbon-core tech in the car's body is another interesting feature actually lowering the car's CG.

 

Never thought I'd ever own a Jag but the XKR is truly one of the best GT's I've ever owned; powerful, sophisticated and you don't see one on every other corner. Since the '12MY when Ian Callum from Aston took over, he made it so much nicer looking; shame, after this MY there will be no more.

 

I'd stay away from that first year model. BMW doesn't do so well with flagship releases being reliable.

I did see you can change the tint levels of the glass sunroof up front. That's cool, but I've never wanted to change the tint level or felt I had to on any car with a glass sunroof.

 

I too work with a guy who had to lemon his 750 IL because it was burning oil like crazy and his dealership bought him boxes of oil to keep in the trunk. Apparently it didn't even have a dipstick so it was only a digital readout when the oil was finally too low. He now drives an infiniti and he's thrilled

 

I hate the no oil dipstick thing!!! The 2006 CLS is like that and it's ridiculous. You can buy a dip stick, but it's $200 and you need to do a conversion to even figure out the level.

 

Porsche does that too, wigged me out for a while having to use the electronic tool to measure, but I adapted

 

I'm a big fan of this new 7-series. For those looking for a modern spin on their luxo-barge this is a top notch choice. The S-class has its own style but its definitely not the only game in town. Hooray for competition!

 

. I fully agree. Perhaps MB will now make a compact spare available for the W222 when the refresh comes along. Competition usually improves things for consumers and it would appear that the new 7 will give MB a good dose of it.

 

Not for the refresh, but probably for the next body style.

 

Still no news on when the refresh will be or what will be freshened up.... i still think by now we'd have heard some news.

 

I'd also be interested in some confirmed info.

Thnx

 

you guys ready for new S cars already?

 

Just anxious to see what the refresh will be since we're in the mkt for a new sedan...hope to have chosen something in the next 3-6 mos...we might be willing to wait longer if the refresh holds something good.

 

Don't hold your breath. Will take longer than you are hoping for...

 

Ok, I'll start breathing again...

What's the ETA?

 

FWIW- my 2014 E550 cab has been to the dealer to correct more problems than my last three BMW 5 series combined. Not sure my E550 is a keeper, but it's my play toy for now, and I love the espresso at the dealer.

 

The issues are with the 7 series, particularly the 750 with its V8TT engine.

 

I'm sorry and surprised to hear about so many problems with your '14 E550. I had the coupe version of the car for about 15 months with zero problems. I mean nothing--but pleasure. Traded it this month for an S550--couldn't resist and with only 9 payments left on the E (and Mercedes picking three of those) I pulled the switch on a 2015. Having said that, the E was the most problem-free, rattle-free delight I have had in most any of my MBs. Wish I had the budget to have kept them both.

 

^E550 I had was also flawless, besides the time I side swiped someone and curbed a wheel