2012 merc amg

I wonder about getting parts for those older cars too. Might be an issue. I’m on my third w222 and yes they are reliable.

SW20S

if you look at his YT channel thats literally what the guy does, he gets in cars and pushes and pulls on the interior trim pieces and see how much they creak and then films it. Mercedes cars are kind of notorious for those kids of creaking interior pieces, the S Class being the least "creaky". What does the creaking tell you about a car? His implication is it tells you how well its put together and how likely it is to creak and rattle. I don't really know that it does tell you that, a lot of variables come into play there, is the car new? How has it been driven? Is it cold? Warm? all of these materials expand and contract and what may creak when pushed on a hot day may not when its cold etc.

Personally, I don't push on and pull on the interior panels so it doesn't really bother me lol. If you really push on and pull on and pull apart on the interior trim of most cars you will find they will "creak".

Will Hunt

Realistically I want the w222 but the only reasons I would want the maybach is interior quality ( which i'm most ocd about), full size spare, and console shifter. Is there any way to modify the w222 to fit my wants eg. shims and sound deadening material, modifying the trunk floor, different interior materials. I know some would say get a Bentley or rolls but I just want a modern s class with old school (pre w220) quality and a full size spare. Although if the w223 is the direction mercedes is going for now on I might just have to get a flying spur in the future.

DaveW68

The W222 is one of the quietest cars that you can buy. There really isn't any need for additional sound deadening as it is likely just as quiet as the W240. If you want the best materials, then find a one owner, low mileage car with the Designo interior option in the colors that you like. Or you can pay a trim shop to customize it the way you want, which will probably be costly. The trunk cannot be modified to fit a full size spare. If you want one, it'll need to ride in the trunk and take up trunk space. These cars come either with run flats for the AMG 19 & 20" wheels or a can of goo and air pump for the base 18" wheels.

The W222 is built with a very high level of quality. Better than the W221 and significantly better than the W220. Comparing it to the W140 is very subjective as those cars look like ancient relics these days, even though their build quality was top notch in the 90's. The W222 is light years ahead of the W240 in reliability and technology and will likely never drain your bank account like the W240 most likely will.

DaveW68

BTW....most people with any iota of car knowledge will recognize a Bentley or Rolls without any trouble. When it comes to the Maybach 57, most people think it's just an old S220 S-class and have no clue that they originally cost $300k+.

Will Hunt

I meant sound deadening for creaks and rattles and to make the doors sound like a w126 when they shut or at least closer. It wouldn't be some how possible to cut the spare tire well out of a w221 and put it in the w222 or is the space between the frame rails not wide enough?

Will Hunt

Thats a benefit to me.

DaveW68

Probably wouldn't be a good idea to try that as there are a ton of electronics for the car in that area. My W222 is squeak and rattle free. It's almost like being in a tomb. My old W221 S600 was the same way. The doors in both models shut with a solid thud, although the W222 doors are now skinned in light weight aluminum, so although they are more rigid and stronger than the old steel doors, you can feel that they are lighter. If you don't shut the door hard enough, they will automatically suck close to finish the job. A nice feature for the old codgers that these cars have been marketed for.

How so?

SW20S

The W222 is a very high quality vehicle. I too am particular about interior materials and creaks and rattles, and I have no issues with the interior build of the W222. If you press hard on materials and pull on pieces will you hear sounds? Of course, you will on any car. Its plastic. My guess is there is no build difference between a Maybach 57 and the W222, if there was any difference the huge age difference between the two cars will do away with that. Just choose one with all the interior improvements, although mine only has the first nappa upgrade, and I am very happy with it, if it had an alcantara headliner I'd be totally happy.

No car built today has doors that shut like a W126. The W222 doors sound and feel great when they shut, they did on my Lexus LS460s also.

Replacing the interior materials in a W222 would be asinine lol What would you replace them with?! Why do you want a spare? I replaced my run flats with a inflator kit, it will be fine. Without going up another level in car you're not going to find a better built car than a W222. If you want a car built like a 80s or 90s Mercedes, gotta buy an 80 or 90s Mercedes...thats an era that doesn't exist anymore.

Will Hunt

I don't like that much attention. My w221 has a few rattles when going over rough roads or playing music loud and the door shutting sound is ok but rattles a bit on the inside and could be better in my opinion.

DaveW68

Yeah....that is certainly a possibility in any 13 year old car, even a Maybach. Although my old 2007 S600 that I kept through 2017 never had one squeak or rattle ever. I think if you find a W222 with Designo interior, you'd be more than happy as the entire car is wrapped in ultra-soft Nappa leather, including the dash and doors. And the headliner is Alcantara. This spec is comparable to Rolls and Bentley quality.

SilberGrau57

Yes, like this one https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rJv...edes-benz-s600 that just sold last week.

DaveW68

Except that is an early W221 S600 that somebody grossly over-paid for.

SilberGrau57

I'm having a hard time reconciling your comment above, seemingly bashing the 2007 W221 S600 designo that I mentioned, with the one from your earlier post extolling the quality of your own 2007 W221 S600, "Although my old 2007 S600 that I kept through 2017 never had one squeak or rattle ever."

DaveW68

I was referring to the OP choosing between a W222 with Designo and an ancient W240. No doubt the quality of materials in the Designo W221 were top notch too.

emilner

What a mess of a thread. OP is thinking of an ancient insanely expensive car to fix because it's cheap and massively outdated vs a newer model that everyone has told him is rattle and problem free but he wants to know if it can be modified to cure all of those rattles and problems. First of all, I wouldn't be caught dead in a 57/62 as a daily driver- what was nice and luxurious then is old, outdated and worn now, destined to be gathering dust in a Saudi desert. Plus-daily driving a 15-20 year old car that USED to be expensive is a sign that you are stretched financially. This is troll level 200...

DaveW68

Not to mention him thinking he can find one for $40-50k. The cheapest one in the country on Auto Trader is $64k and has 87k miles. Although there is a 33k mile example available for $66k. Either way, any of those cars will bury him financially if he plans on it being a daily driver.

SW20S

Its old, there will be some rattles that come with age on any car.

You can't buy an old luxury car and expect it to deliver the exact same experience as a new one.

Wolfman

If a V12 is important, our dealer here has a nice 2017 S600 with 25k miles here, local 1 owner non-issue car that is listed for $75k. $175k list with some price flexibility (iridium silver, crystal/seashell gray, piano black, Burmester 3D, rear ent.)
Either this type of car or a W222 Maybach. Everything older than a W222 makes zero financial sense...