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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 04:55 PM
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Missing that Soft Ride

I just picked up a 2018 S560 with 19k miles
The ride over 55 seems too rough so I checked the tire pressure. On the B pillar is says 43psi. On the gas tank flap it says 35 psi. These are Runflats.

I lowered the PSI to 35 which slightly improved the softness but still not smooth.

Which PSIdo I follow?

I also recognize that the front rotors need to be changed out as braking is not smooth also.

Will rotors also create a less that smooth ride over 55mph?

any thoughts? Thanks

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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 05:19 PM
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My understanding is you're supposed to follow the label on the gas filler flap. Even that has two or three sets of numbers depending what size tires and wheels your car has.
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 05:28 PM
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Tire pressure on the fuel fill door is the pressure that should be used. Tire pressure on the driver's door jamb is max pressure limit and not the everyday pressure.
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by flint350
Tire pressure on the fuel fill door is the pressure that should be used. Tire pressure on the driver's door jamb is max pressure limit and not the everyday pressure.
I purchased the car via MB dealership and they had pressure at 43psi. It makes you wonder what other items they touched/fixed incorrectly.

I'll be replacing the rotors and brakes myself.
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 05:49 PM
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It should be smooth as silk- what size tires/rims?
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 06:01 PM
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It should be smooth as silk- what size tires/rims?
That is what I was going to ask
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 06:06 PM
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That is what I was going to ask
19” AMG five spoke
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 06:39 PM
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19” AMG five spoke
Then something is wrong, if you said 20's I could say it is likely rim size plus tires. On 19's the S560 is just about the smoothest riding vehicle ever made...
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 06:40 PM
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Even with runflats?
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 06:44 PM
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Even with runflats?
My 2019 with 19's and RFTs is smoother than my 2015 S550 with Michelin non-RFTs. There is a reason every review I have ever seen has said it's the benchmark for smooth ride (not cross referencing RR or Bentley).
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 06:57 PM
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I’ll get the tires and rim balanced and see if that corrects it.
if one of these run flat tires is bad, how would I know? I never had this type of tire.
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Denis Osullivan
I’ll get the tires and rim balanced and see if that corrects it.
if one of these run flat tires is bad, how would I know? I never had this type of tire.
As far as tire failures, RFs are the same as other tires. Just that the sidewalls are stiffer to support more weight than non RF tires in case of a loss of internal pressure. Of themselves they shouldn't cause a vibration noticeable at speeds above 55. That sounds like balancing and/or perhaps something in the suspension loosening with wear.
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 09:47 PM
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I don't want to make you upset after purchasing the vehicle but look also at a bent rim/s. I know it's not what you want to hear out the gate but at the speed you mention I had a bent rim and wasn't noticeable until you get over 55 plus where the vibration translates back into the vehicle.
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dweb4
I don't want to make you upset after purchasing the vehicle but look also at a bent rim/s. I know it's not what you want to hear out the gate but at the speed you mention I had a bent rim and wasn't noticeable until you get over 55 plus where the vibration translates back into the vehicle.
I’m hoping that it’s just a rim. I have the wheel and tire policy but doubt the dealer will repair under this policy as the tire hasn’t lost any air.
Has anyone had experience with rejection of this policy on their bend rims?
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by emilner
My 2019 with 19's and RFTs is smoother than my 2015 S550 with Michelin non-RFTs. There is a reason every review I have ever seen has said it's the benchmark for smooth ride (not cross referencing RR or Bentley).
Hi, can you link/point to a few reviews... I have not heard of the RFT being smoother than the nons... i really want to read more...it would try be great if they figured it out for 2019... 2015 (and maybe 2017) are much smoother and super quiet without RFT... but instead with quiettracks.... my 2017 not needed tires yet... but not as smooth and quiet as the 2015 right now with the nonRFT...

CAN others chime in on 2019 RFT tire smoothness and quietness - RFT vs nonRFT....

I do understand that smoothness is in the a$$ of the beholder...
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kafklatsch
Hi, can you link/point to a few reviews... I have not heard of the RFT being smoother than the nons... i really want to read more...it would try be great if they figured it out for 2019... 2015 (and maybe 2017) are much smoother and super quiet without RFT... but instead with quiettracks.... my 2017 not needed tires yet... but not as smooth and quiet as the 2015 right now with the nonRFT...

CAN others chime in on 2019 RFT tire smoothness and quietness - RFT vs nonRFT....

I do understand that smoothness is in the a$$ of the beholder...
Just look at any review of the S560. It is over and over and over referred to as the benchmark for ride quality. Some people on this forum make it out to be a 1970's lifted pickup truck...
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 10:13 AM
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My S560 on 18" runflat Bridgestones is excellent. Noticeably better than my S450 on 19" AMG with Pirelli runflat, but not by miles. That car also rode fantastically; impacts were harsher, though. I can't imagine how 18" non-run flats would ride.....Magic Carpet?
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Originally Posted by dweb4
I don't want to make you upset after purchasing the vehicle but look also at a bent rim/s. I know it's not what you want to hear out the gate but at the speed you mention I had a bent rim and wasn't noticeable until you get over 55 plus where the vibration translates back into the vehicle.
I second that possibility. I somehow ended up with a bent rim. But the good news is that it didn't cost me much to straighten it - $45.00 at a local wheel refinisher.
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 11:30 AM
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Update

Four rims bent. Straightened and balanced within 1.5 hours.

Car ride is like silky smooth.

Shout out to Dunn Wheels, Bronx, NY

This shop said to inflate to 42/43 PSI
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Denis Osullivan
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Four rims bent. Straightened and balanced within 1.5 hours.

Car ride is like silky smooth.

Shout out to Dunn Wheels, Bronx, NY

This shop said to inflate to 42/43 PSI
Glad to hear but that is a very high psi. It will cause a harsher ride and poor tire wear.

Last edited by emilner; Feb 25, 2021 at 06:01 PM.
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 05:38 PM
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Regardless of highway, are you driving bronx streets?

I wonder since you mentioned getting all four wheels repaired in the Bronx, is this a city vehicle? I ask because you may WANT a higher psi due to the chance of continuous bent rims. You don’t want it to be jarring or kill tires, but there will be a happy medium.

glad you got it straitened out, pun intended.

Now, go send that dealership the bill for a good laugh. It would really now be best to go to a trusted Indy and have them fix or repair everything that dealership neglected to do or possibly messed up. A proper baseline won’t cost too much and will ensure your continued proper enjoyment of what many say is the quintessential elite sedan, that everyone can aspire too.
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I wouldnt run the PSI that high...
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 06:08 PM
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I wouldnt run the PSI that high...
Since you’re against this high PSI then why is it listed on the B pillar??
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Old Feb 25, 2021 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Denis Osullivan
Since you’re against this high PSI then why is it listed on the B pillar??
I believe that is the max psi (extra load). The correct pressure is located behind the gas door.
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Originally Posted by Denis Osullivan
Since you’re against this high PSI then why is it listed on the B pillar??
As emilner said the PSI figures you want to follow are on the fuel door, 35. I actually run 33 and I dont have runflats

If you want a soft ride, 42 PSI isnt gonna give you that lol
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