W222 for Driving 50,000 Miles per Year
I remember reading a thread a while back where forum member valley_isle described how he buys CPO S-Classes and adds the 2 extra years to the Certified Pre-Owned Extended Limited Warranty and then runs them up to very high miles. I have never been a fan of extended warranties as I tend to think the actuaries will always win and I don't mind paying for some repairs out of pocket when I've saved tens of thousands by buying lightly used instead of new. However, I wonder with the complexity of the S-Class and my anticipated mileage if this would be the best strategy in my situation. I understand that by calling the right dealer the 2-year extension can be had for less than $4000 giving a total of three years of unlimited mile coverage. I'd welcome other members' thoughts on this idea. I use an independent mechanic for all my scheduled maintenance.
I think I would prefer a facelift (2018 or newer) W222 mostly due to the better driver assistance systems. I use the Distronic Plus with Steering Assist in my W212 continuously on the freeway and I understand the new version is much better with a much longer time allowed with hands off the wheel.
I've always wanted a V8 S-Class and according to the EPA ratings the S560 only gets 1mpg less on the freeway than the S450 which works out to about $400 per year in fuel savings, not really enough to care about. I'm curious if there is a more substantial real-world difference or if there are any other more significant reasons anybody would recommend one engine over the other for my application. The S560e would be neat but there are vanishingly few on the used market and at a price premium that would never be recovered in fuel, particularly since I'd be greatly exceeding the all-electric range every day.
One of the best things about shopping for an S-Class compared to other Mercedes models is that most of the really important features are either standard or optioned onto basically every unit. My dealbreaker options are Driver Assistance, Warmth and Comfort, Premium Package, AMG Appearance, and no wood steering wheel but it is easy to find cars with all of these. The high-end backseat options are neat but would almost never be used so I don't really care about those. The two other major options to consider are the High End 3D Sound System and Magic Body Control. Both seem to be so rare on used models that I'm not sure of my realistic chances of finding a CPO car with either, let alone both. I'd definitely love the better sound if I can find it but I would imagine the standard system is also very good?
I know there have been many threads and competing opinions Magic Body Control on this forum and I'm not trying to start another debate on its performance merits. However, I am more interested in knowing about the comparable reliabilities of MBC and Airmatic and what is or isn't covered by the Certified Pre-Owned Extended Limited Warranty for each system. According to this dealer website, the following suspension components are covered:
The other option to consider is which level of leather interior the car has. S560s have Napa leather standard with Exclusive and Designo as upgrade options. I'm curious what Exclusive gets over Napa? Is the leather itself nicer or is it just applied to more areas or both? If it is applied to more areas, where? I'd welcome thoughts on if a higher level leather is worth seeking out and what would be durable over 200,000 miles of use.
Many thanks for your thoughts about these questions and the best route to take in my situation!
Last edited by ccww; Jul 10, 2022 at 02:33 PM. Reason: Added question about leather
Curious where you are located because the Sport Package and all-leather steering wheel are the minority here in the U.S.
The standard audio system is “fine” while I’ve heard the 3D is phenomenal.
Can’t help you with the suspension question; but from my reading the MBC suspension is more of a gimmick / party trick than a real-world asset.
Curious where you are located because the Sport Package and all-leather steering wheel are the minority here in the U.S.
Seriously, hard to think of a better car to be in when you do that much driving! Only thing I'd add is you have to do a '19 or '20 to get Apple Carplay or Android Auto.
On the 2012, my after market waranty covered nearly all suspension related repairs. Got lucky. Present coverage is zero. Properly serviced, I’m not afraid of the car at all. Wearables will happen but town vs road car probably not the same. Car runs like a supersonic brick on glass and loves an open stretch.
W222 is one of the best cars to do the job probably another S Class could beat it which is W223 but I prefer W222 styling over anything else . Leather durability should be no concern
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cfmistry is correct, the all-leather steering wheel is very rare. I’ll probably have to swap it later.
Burmeister High End 3D is vanishingly rare on S560s, mostly seems to be on Maybachs and S63s. For some reason there seems to be a negative association between 3D and the AMG package as well as RWD cars. The few 3D cars seem to mostly be non-AMG AWD for some reason.
Magic Body Control is even rarer and I have yet to find even a single current or sold listing that combines it with 3D and AMG package on a a certified S560.
The cars that do have 3D or MBC seem to have above average miles and less likely to be certified. Perhaps the kind of drivers who order those features are more likely to custom order, buy, and hold onto their cars longer than an off-the-lot leaser.
There seem to be a lot of owners here on the forum with 3D and/or MBC but a lot of you also custom ordered the cars. I’m dubious that I’ll ever realistically find a certified car with both and my other requirements, even (mostly) throwing colors out the window. I could live with most exterior and interior colors but the lighter wood trims, like light burl walnut, are an absolute dealbreaker. Whereas if I forego MBC and 3D I can get everything else I want including colors now…
Last edited by ccww; Jul 14, 2022 at 10:06 AM.








EPA ratings are the same which is strange. Usually 4matic is good for a several MPG hit. I have only been shopping RWD on this assumption as I have simply no use at all for driving the front wheels. This is purely a highway cruiser and will never be taken in snow. The extra weight, complexity, maintenance, and (presumably) fuel consumption are not worth it to me.
a) yes it does weight more
b) on the other hand, there is less rolling resistance with both front and rear wheels pulling their respective sections of the car along.
c) so it will be close either way,
d) and highly dependent on your driving style.
Me, personally, I hate FWD and 4WD, it removes the ability of the front wheels to talk to the driver through the steering wheel.




I remember reading a thread a while back where forum member valley_isle described how he buys CPO S-Classes and adds the 2 extra years to the Certified Pre-Owned Extended Limited Warranty and then runs them up to very high miles. I have never been a fan of extended warranties as I tend to think the actuaries will always win and I don't mind paying for some repairs out of pocket when I've saved tens of thousands by buying lightly used instead of new. However, I wonder with the complexity of the S-Class and my anticipated mileage if this would be the best strategy in my situation. I understand that by calling the right dealer the 2-year extension can be had for less than $4000 giving a total of three years of unlimited mile coverage. I'd welcome other members' thoughts on this idea. I use an independent mechanic for all my scheduled maintenance.
I think I would prefer a facelift (2018 or newer) W222 mostly due to the better driver assistance systems. I use the Distronic Plus with Steering Assist in my W212 continuously on the freeway and I understand the new version is much better with a much longer time allowed with hands off the wheel.
I've always wanted a V8 S-Class and according to the EPA ratings the S560 only gets 1mpg less on the freeway than the S450 which works out to about $400 per year in fuel savings, not really enough to care about. I'm curious if there is a more substantial real-world difference or if there are any other more significant reasons anybody would recommend one engine over the other for my application. The S560e would be neat but there are vanishingly few on the used market and at a price premium that would never be recovered in fuel, particularly since I'd be greatly exceeding the all-electric range every day.
One of the best things about shopping for an S-Class compared to other Mercedes models is that most of the really important features are either standard or optioned onto basically every unit. My dealbreaker options are Driver Assistance, Warmth and Comfort, Premium Package, AMG Appearance, and no wood steering wheel but it is easy to find cars with all of these. The high-end backseat options are neat but would almost never be used so I don't really care about those. The two other major options to consider are the High End 3D Sound System and Magic Body Control. Both seem to be so rare on used models that I'm not sure of my realistic chances of finding a CPO car with either, let alone both. I'd definitely love the better sound if I can find it but I would imagine the standard system is also very good?
I know there have been many threads and competing opinions Magic Body Control on this forum and I'm not trying to start another debate on its performance merits. However, I am more interested in knowing about the comparable reliabilities of MBC and Airmatic and what is or isn't covered by the Certified Pre-Owned Extended Limited Warranty for each system. According to this dealer website, the following suspension components are covered:
While the following suspension components are NOT covered:
Does this mean that all suspension struts EXCEPT air are excluded? In which case the Airmatic system would essentially be covered while MBC would not? Any clarity would be great.
The other option to consider is which level of leather interior the car has. S560s have Napa leather standard with Exclusive and Designo as upgrade options. I'm curious what Exclusive gets over Napa? Is the leather itself nicer or is it just applied to more areas or both? If it is applied to more areas, where? I'd welcome thoughts on if a higher level leather is worth seeking out and what would be durable over 200,000 miles of use.
Many thanks for your thoughts about these questions and the best route to take in my situation!
for some background, i currently drive a 2015 bmw m4 (f82), i put roughly half the number of miles as OP annually on my car, about 25k
just brought the f82 to 40000 miles and due for spark plugs, $1500 for spark plugs…
thinking about making my commute in a 2020 s560 with about 30000 miles on it already , am i also due for a major service fee in making this switch?




