Sport mode jerky start
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Sport mode jerky start
I turned on sport mode to try to impress my idiot husband who drives a 2010 BMW 535i. I didn't quite succeed. I can tell my 2020 S560 4Matic wants to go! It was a bit jerky taking off in low gear. This is the first time in almost 2 years that I tried sport mode because I usually keep it in Comfort. What are some tricks to being a better driver when using sport mode? That BMW jerk thinks his car is faster 0-60 but the internet says he is wrong. ![smash](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smashfreak.gif)
My ego is really fragile and I need to impress him with my driving skills, and my expensive car.... help, please?
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My ego is really fragile and I need to impress him with my driving skills, and my expensive car.... help, please?
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A 560 is not really drag race oriented and why would you marry someone who drives a BMW?
What you likely experienced was traction control cutting power to keep the wheels from spinning.
First recommendation is a set of good summer tires and feathering in the throttle.
What you likely experienced was traction control cutting power to keep the wheels from spinning.
First recommendation is a set of good summer tires and feathering in the throttle.
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I'm sorry , leaving someone in dust is not something that's to be proud of . W222s are outstanding cars and everyone knows they're not cheap at all .
Besides, I don't recommend it at all what I am gonna say : you may use a Launch Mode or replicate that . Put your left foot on the brake and right foot on the gas pedal and rev it up to 3500 RPM and release the brake pedal . However, it may damage the tranny but surely you can have better acceleration
Besides, I don't recommend it at all what I am gonna say : you may use a Launch Mode or replicate that . Put your left foot on the brake and right foot on the gas pedal and rev it up to 3500 RPM and release the brake pedal . However, it may damage the tranny but surely you can have better acceleration
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I'm sorry , leaving someone in dust is not something that's to be proud of . W222s are outstanding cars and everyone knows they're not cheap at all .
Besides, I don't recommend it at all what I am gonna say : you may use a Launch Mode or replicate that . Put your left foot on the brake and right foot on the gas pedal and rev it up to 3500 RPM and release the brake pedal . However, it may damage the tranny but surely you can have better acceleration
Besides, I don't recommend it at all what I am gonna say : you may use a Launch Mode or replicate that . Put your left foot on the brake and right foot on the gas pedal and rev it up to 3500 RPM and release the brake pedal . However, it may damage the tranny but surely you can have better acceleration
Why is the shifting in sport mode so jerky?
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Well, answering your question , it's the designed that way , Sport Mode will make its presence felt as I have driven many cars and when I select Sport Mode the trannies changes their behavior but is it acceptable in a S Class ? That's the question however I believe a software or firmware can solve this .
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Yes, I'm not married .
Well, answering your question , it's the designed that way , Sport Mode will make its presence felt as I have driven many cars and when I select Sport Mode the trannies changes their behavior but is it acceptable in a S Class ? That's the question however I believe a software or firmware can solve this .
Well, answering your question , it's the designed that way , Sport Mode will make its presence felt as I have driven many cars and when I select Sport Mode the trannies changes their behavior but is it acceptable in a S Class ? That's the question however I believe a software or firmware can solve this .
It really hurts my feelings that you want me to tell my husband that his 14 year old BMW POS is faster than mine. When I paid more. Because it’s NOT TRUE!!!
😭😭😭
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Are our cars adaptive? Because I tried Sport again and didn’t feel the same jerkiness as the first time. But I’ll keep trying it.
It really hurts my feelings that you want me to tell my husband that his 14 year old BMW POS is faster than mine. When I paid more. Because it’s NOT TRUE!!!
😭😭😭
It really hurts my feelings that you want me to tell my husband that his 14 year old BMW POS is faster than mine. When I paid more. Because it’s NOT TRUE!!!
😭😭😭
For some vehicles, like amg, placing it in manual mode disables the learning process no matter how you shift.
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Okay there are a couple of reasons first one is drive by wire delay (a pedal commander will solve that) second is these are twin turbos (that don't use the 48 volt system newer models have), those two things combined may make you think the car is not getting off the mark that quickly. Drive by wire is something most of you under 45 have gotten used to. For old folks like me (who also happen to be former one of a kind builder of street, race cars and rails as well as a racer and driving instructor) it is terrible I have throttle controllers on every car I own (expect the one of kind 911 in my garage it has a mechanical throttle pedal). One more thing some of what you were told might be correct smashing the throttle down is not the way to get the best performance out of your car. You may have inadvertently caused the traction control to limit power and that could make it feel jerky as well. My 560 Coupe has a throttle controller and I also have a 2022 BMW 750 sedan which is pretty quick but the 560 with the pedal commander (sprint booster makes one for the 560 as well) feels almost as fast of the line and the 535 could not hold a candle to either of those cars. My 56 is MB # 70 the 750 is BMW *68 (I have owned 486 cars so far) and I have close to 6 decades (before I retired) of experience making the best out of a car and its driver (trust this part is a lot harder than the car). Good luck
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Are our cars adaptive? Because I tried Sport again and didn’t feel the same jerkiness as the first time. But I’ll keep trying it.
It really hurts my feelings that you want me to tell my husband that his 14 year old BMW POS is faster than mine. When I paid more. Because it’s NOT TRUE!!!
😭😭😭
It really hurts my feelings that you want me to tell my husband that his 14 year old BMW POS is faster than mine. When I paid more. Because it’s NOT TRUE!!!
😭😭😭
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Just line up straight and stomp the accelerator pedal to the floor and hold it there until you reach your desired speed to need to stop.
IF the tires spin... let off throttle as required - this takes practice..
Be careful as spinning tires cause you to lose control
IF the tires spin... let off throttle as required - this takes practice..
Be careful as spinning tires cause you to lose control
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Okay there are a couple of reasons first one is drive by wire delay (a pedal commander will solve that) second is these are twin turbos (that don't use the 48 volt system newer models have), those two things combined may make you think the car is not getting off the mark that quickly. Drive by wire is something most of you under 45 have gotten used to. For old folks like me (who also happen to be former one of a kind builder of street, race cars and rails as well as a racer and driving instructor) it is terrible I have throttle controllers on every car I own (expect the one of kind 911 in my garage it has a mechanical throttle pedal). One more thing some of what you were told might be correct smashing the throttle down is not the way to get the best performance out of your car. You may have inadvertently caused the traction control to limit power and that could make it feel jerky as well. My 560 Coupe has a throttle controller and I also have a 2022 BMW 750 sedan which is pretty quick but the 560 with the pedal commander (sprint booster makes one for the 560 as well) feels almost as fast of the line and the 535 could not hold a candle to either of those cars. My 56 is MB # 70 the 750 is BMW *68 (I have owned 486 cars so far) and I have close to 6 decades (before I retired) of experience making the best out of a car and its driver (trust this part is a lot harder than the car). Good luck
OP can unplug it if they want to, more details in the oil pump solenoid thread.
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So from a start the big difference is Sport mode starts in first gear and Comfort mode starts in second gear, the reason it does is for smoothness. If you put your foot down at a light in Sport the same way you do in Comfort, you will get a really jerky start, you have to be a little lighter on the throttle. I drive it in Individual mode all the time with Engine on Sport and everything else Comfort. I prefer the lighter feeling off the line
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Are our cars adaptive? Because I tried Sport again and didn’t feel the same jerkiness as the first time. But I’ll keep trying it.
It really hurts my feelings that you want me to tell my husband that his 14 year old BMW POS is faster than mine. When I paid more. Because it’s NOT TRUE!!!
😭😭😭
It really hurts my feelings that you want me to tell my husband that his 14 year old BMW POS is faster than mine. When I paid more. Because it’s NOT TRUE!!!
😭😭😭
yes the transmission will adapt to your driving style and shift points (not sure about the 9G-Tronic, but my 7Gtronic speed shift on the s63 adapts both upshift and downshift and turns off adaptation on manual mode.
If you're really annoyed about your husband just do what most BMW drivers do... get a downpipe and a tune for your S560 from WesTech/RENNTech and either a catless Redstar or catted RENNTech downpipe and be done with it.
It should vastly improve the m176's performance.
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I didn't quite succeed. I can tell my 2020 S560 4Matic wants to go! It was a bit jerky taking off in low gear. This is the first time in almost 2 years that I tried sport mode because I usually keep it in Comfort. What are some tricks to being a better driver when using sport mode? That BMW jerk thinks his car is faster 0-60 but the internet says he is wrong.
![smash](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smashfreak.gif)
My ego is really fragile
and I need to impress him with my driving skills, and my expensive car.... help, please?
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So from a start the big difference is Sport mode starts in first gear and Comfort mode starts in second gear, the reason it does is for smoothness. If you put your foot down at a light in Sport the same way you do in Comfort, you will get a really jerky start, you have to be a little lighter on the throttle. I drive it in Individual mode all the time with Engine on Sport and everything else Comfort. I prefer the lighter feeling off the line
This brings up a question I have been wondering about….My 2019 S560 4Matic always starts in “C” regardless of whether it was last in “S” or “I” when shut off. My ‘09 SL63 would start in “S” mode (but not “S+”) if that’s what it was in when I turned it off. Is there a way for the S560 to start up in “S” or “I” mode? I’ve looked in the owners manual and online but have found nothing.
Thanks!
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I like the Sport setting myself and I will try your suggestion and set the “I” mode like you have it.
This brings up a question I have been wondering about….My 2019 S560 4Matic always starts in “C” regardless of whether it was last in “S” or “I” when shut off. My ‘09 SL63 would start in “S” mode (but not “S+”) if that’s what it was in when I turned it off. Is there a way for the S560 to start up in “S” or “I” mode? I’ve looked in the owners manual and online but have found nothing.
Thanks!
This brings up a question I have been wondering about….My 2019 S560 4Matic always starts in “C” regardless of whether it was last in “S” or “I” when shut off. My ‘09 SL63 would start in “S” mode (but not “S+”) if that’s what it was in when I turned it off. Is there a way for the S560 to start up in “S” or “I” mode? I’ve looked in the owners manual and online but have found nothing.
Thanks!
The reason it does that is the EPA tests fuel economy in the most aggressive mode the car defaults to. So if it could default to Sport they would have tested FE in Sport. That’s why cars no longer remember the drive mode on restart.
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