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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 12:09 PM
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They actually have several different scents so try them all out. I prefer the original which is what was posted above.
I bought my cars used so I only had very little of the original smell left in the bottle, and I think it was Freeside Mood. I see, you're saying you like Freeside Mood the best, then Pacific Mood second...Gotcha. I'll check out Tommy Bahama first, then maybe try Fireside Mood afterwards.
I was asked by someone considerign buying an S-Class if I use my air freshener. I told him it is one of my favorite features of the car, I love it!
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 03:04 PM
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I bought my cars used so I only had very little of the original smell left in the bottle, and I think it was Freeside Mood. I see, you're saying you like Freeside Mood the best, then Pacific Mood second...Gotcha. I'll check out Tommy Bahama first, then maybe try Fireside Mood afterwards.
I was asked by someone considerign buying an S-Class if I use my air freshener. I told him it is one of my favorite features of the car, I love it!
Tommy Bahama has a lot of different scents too is what I meant, I tried the coconut one and it was a little sweet, then I went to the original TB one and that I really like.

Its one of my favorite features too!
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 11:44 PM
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In your tirade regarding the use the MB diffuser system, all casinos, hotels, and home owners that also use them. You forgot to tell us to go vegan because it’s healthier. No one asked for your opinion.
maybe you need to read up on the actual dangers before responding. Education is important. Otherwise you’re just an ignorant person. I don’t have any opinions about your lifestyle and don’t agree with vegans either. Nice ASSumption. I’m just putting a warning out there for those that are ignorant of the dangers like yourself. If you were able to read all of the words I wrote you would see that I’ve had exposures to these chemicals in multiple places. But perhaps not a casino because I can’t be a fancy Baller like you with your perfume.

If you don’t believe in voc’s benzene, formaldehyde, phthalates, it ok but its a warning to those that might wind up in a situation like I did. I’d post some links, but you apparently don’t believe in non partisan science and have shown your inability to have a rational learning experience without personally attacking me. Perhaps when one of your family or pets is effected, your brain will understand.

And buddy, if you don’t want a stranger’s opinion, get off the internet and back into the casino.

I’ve even posted a picture of the outcome of my situation because it’s easier than reading for you. This took two days and an extreme amount of benedryl to start to resolve over a week... all from touching a surface near a plug in.



This is what those hazardous chemical deposits can do to you.



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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 11:56 PM
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New car smell is actually the smell of the adhesives used in several areas of the car, including the carpet. That's the most toxic thing out there and nobody complains about that
Funny how cows don't smell like leather coats! Why? Because that "wonderful" leather smell is produced by the tanning process. I worked in a rendering plant and tanning plant as a kid...Mike Rowe has NOTHING on me!!
Speaking of BO. I'm 6'4" 300+ lbs, used to be 330lbs so yes, I have BO. I wear deodorant, and cologne, and love to smell good. And by extension I like my car to smell good...it's not a crime!

I still don't have a "favorite" smell, I'll have to stop by a Tommy Bahama store prior to buying the scent.
I feel like we could fit a quote from Tommy Boy in here about sticking our head up a cow. Yes I’m aware of what new car smell and the VOCs associated with that and the newer tanning processes and regulations around these emmisions from car materials. However, the large majority of those vocs off-gas quickly and over the years and to an acceptable level. My statements were intended to educate about the dangers of these added and continuous emmisions and the reality that they are dangerous in some circumstances and for some people and why choose this over nothing. My seemingly absurd questions were all serious. There is a huge chemical difference between alcohol based colognes and air fresheners as I’m sure you know.

My last question would be about me wondering if this would have taken care of Jerry’s car after the valet incident.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 11:01 AM
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Then I guess you shouldn’t use the system I only made it through about one sentence of any of that before I lost interest.

I’ll enjoy inhaling my VOCs etc and enjoying my ignorance lol. Not sure why you having an allergic reaction impacts any of us. Not everybody has your medical weaknesses or sensitivities.

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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 12:25 PM
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This might explain and help:
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 12:31 PM
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Anyone can look it up, but if someone didn’t know, a VOC is a Volatile Organic Compound. There are MSDS(material safety data sheets) for the different VOCs. They explain the known risks of exposure. They specify PPE(Personal Protective Equipment) to be worn with any handling or exposure. VOCs are generally highly reactive with human tissue. It is believed that close and or prolonged exposure to VOCs is carcinogenic. I know in most cases there is data that is by its nature anecdotal. A co worker of mine was a long time aerial applicator, aka crop duster. Some of the payload they spray is non toxic, but most would fall into the category of VOCs. In his case they were highly concentrated. He developed a very bad case of leukemia, that was treated and in remission when I met him. About a year later, the leukemia came back with a vengeance and he was gone in less than 6 months. He attributed his condition to the chemicals he was spraying, and his lack of proper PPE.
Anyway, that’s my 2 cents (for the second time).
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 12:57 PM
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In the 60s and 70s in S Eastern PA there was a truck that ran through every residential street in the lower part of the county after dusk. We called it “The Mosquito Man.” There was a huge fogger on the back driven by a gas motor attached - was very loud, you could hear him coming from blocks away and it really did “fog” the entire area enough you couldn’t see a foot in front of you. The kids would ride their bikes in the fog behind this slow moving truck. I always wondered what effect that had on the people (mainly kids back then).
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 01:11 PM
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Then I guess you shouldn’t use the system I only made it through about one sentence of any of that before I lost interest.

I’ll enjoy inhaling my VOCs etc and enjoying my ignorance lol. Not sure why you having an allergic reaction impacts any of us. Not everybody has your medical weaknesses or sensitivities.
lol, all good. I don’t care if anyone drinks this stuff
Or bathes in it. Nor do I care if you smoke it or inject it while carrying a gun and speeding. I have zero problem with independent thinking or civil liberties. Perhaps some people are just going to be sensitive when they think I am talking to them or trying to persuade them or their own choices, but I’m not and it only is displaying their insecurity and weakness to make assumptions personally about me. I don’t have any known allergies or medical weaknesses and am near perfect health. Having a reaction to hazardous chemicals is not a medical weakness. This was a case of you don’t know until you know. Once again for those that can’t absorb the English language (or comment with admittedly not reading) this information was for those that care to know and might be intrigue enough to learn further. Sure, my grandfather was sprinkled in pesticides in the war and was fine until he was 95, but I also had a neighbor that was exposed from off gassing pesticides into their basement of their parsonage and it killed her husband and caused her to have brain surgery and literally go insane. I guess I’m happy to have learned about certain dangers from others experiences.

All good though. Enjoy your fresh fruity breeze. In the words of Jack Nicholson, “you can’t handle the truth”
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 03:25 PM
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When people start dying because of the perfume oil used in this system then I will take notice lol. As for the picture of your face...we have no idea what you look like normally...that just looks like a face to me.

Originally Posted by Baltistyle
I don’t have any known allergies or medical weaknesses and am near perfect health. Having a reaction to hazardous chemicals is not a medical weakness.


If you have a serious reaction to something that the vast majority of people have no reaction to, thats a medical weakness or allergy that you specifically have and others don't. You clearly are unusually sensitive to this type of thing. Why doesn't everybody who touches a plug in air freshener blow up like you did? Because they don't that issue.

For instance many people are seriously allergic to peanuts...that doesn't mean peanuts will hurt most people or that peanuts are universally dangerous.

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A week ago today...I had peanuts on an airplane.....

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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 07:52 PM
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A week ago today...I had peanuts on an airplane.....
The horror!
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A week ago today...I had peanuts on an airplane.....
Did they have a new airplane smell?
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
When people start dying because of the perfume oil used in this system then I will take notice lol. As for the picture of your face...we have no idea what you look like normally...that just looks like a face to me.



If you have a serious reaction to something that the vast majority of people have no reaction to, thats a medical weakness or allergy that you specifically have and others don't. You clearly are unusually sensitive to this type of thing. Why doesn't everybody who touches a plug in air freshener blow up like you did? Because they don't that issue.

For instance many people are seriously allergic to peanuts...that doesn't mean peanuts will hurt most people or that peanuts are universally dangerous.
Who mentioned dying, are you going for a glorious headline?

I’ve been near hundreds or thousands of air fresheners over decades. I work daily with chemicals, pesticides, molds, mildews, fungus, abrasives, fine powders and hazardous products. I work in an industry where VOCs in the air are a normal daily occurrence. Our msds binder contains thousands of pages. This was one brand and one time for my face, and one time with breathing at an air bnb that was closed up and had multiple units in a bedroom that was not aired out. It does not happen when I’m near an air freshener or use one or touch one but makes me aware that some chemical combos can have a negative consequence. As for my face, like most people I can normally open my eyes, lol. I’m a skinny white guy with no fat on my face and don’t have a 1/4 inch of fluid under my skin. The fluid was under my skin and not in my sinuses. The vast majority of people do have reactions to the chemicals mentioned when they are above safe levels. Msds and the hazards mentioned are not my opinion, nor political. It takes the right situation to have the issue, such as when there is over exposure in a tight area and a chemical change due to other chemical reactions during volatilization. We all use soap, I hope, and if you’ve ever left soap on your skin, you know it can cause burns but that does not mean you have an allergy or medical weakness to soap. I digress however as people that don’t care about facts or science can’t be spoken with in a reasonable manner. I still get amazed that people want to argue their own beliefs instead of becoming educated with facts. I’m not trying to convince anyone of their safety because that’s not debatable. I’m letting people know that if they put the wrong chemical in the unit, there can be negative unforeseen consequences.

My true inquiry along with my statement to beware was why would anyone voluntarily add the rich version of little trees to their high end luxury car unless there was some greater problem with smells or ventilation. I’ve only seen one valid answer to that but multiple attacking me or science….for what, self satisfaction, measuring contest?

I suppose if I was a 10-year-old TikTok star that had just “discovered” MSDS‘s more would be interested.



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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 05:40 AM
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You are right, and everyone who enjoys the fragrance option is wrong (hundreds of thousands of us).
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SW20S has shown his *** time and time again......it never fails! Constantly sharing his view from up on high got old for me a long time ago. Only other person I have ever needed to use the ignore function for......however, when someone quotes his posts I can unfortunately see them lol.
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My true inquiry along with my statement to beware was why would anyone voluntarily add the rich version of little trees to their high end luxury car unless there was some greater problem with smells or ventilation. I’ve only seen one valid answer to that but multiple attacking me or science….for what, self satisfaction, measuring contest?
I believe it’s your insinuation that this feature is dangerous and your derision of anybody who likes it that is causing the response that you are getting.

You don’t like the feature, doesn’t mean the feature is wrong or bad. Just turn it off.
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SW20S has shown his *** time and time again......it never fails! Constantly sharing his view from up on high got old for me a long time ago
Um...this is an open forum. In this instance he is correct.
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Um...this is an open forum. In this instance he is correct.
Ignore him. I live rent free in his mind for some reason lol
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SW20S has shown his *** time and time again......it never fails! Constantly sharing his view from up on high got old for me a long time ago. Only other person I have ever needed to use the ignore function for......however, when someone quotes his posts I can unfortunately see them lol.
I am not taking sides, I just am not getting that from his post. Almost any comment can be taken as a compliment, if you try hard enough. Same for insults.
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Yes VOCs can create health issues but so can red meat, alcohol, nonstick pans, raw meat, seafood /mercury, alcohol, excessive sugar, excessive salt, cleaning products, plastics, pesticides, sunscreens, flame retardents, EMF, noise and air pollution, and so on...

Should anyone have trouble breathing or develop a rash, please consult with a doctor and stop using the product. For everyone else, sniff on.
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@wildta not for most of us. The stickers say that's only in Cali.......
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@wildta not for most of us. The stickers say that's only in Cali.......
Reading this might cause cancer... Doh!
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I do love how in CA literally EVERYTHING has a disclaimer that it causes cancer lol. Door? Causes cancer. Wall? Cancer.
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