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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 06:33 PM
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Cost for spark plug change?

There is a boutique German car repair and performance facility near me that has a very good reputation. I was just quoted $552 + tax to change out the plugs in my S550. Does this sound like a fair price from a high quality German indy shop? Local MB dealer wants a little over $1k to do the same job.

They'll also do oil (Fuchs) and filter (OEM MB) change for $99 + tax, which seems like a steal. I'm used to paying around $250 from another local indy shop for that. Was quoted $475 + tax for oil/filter from dealer. Egads!
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 07:48 PM
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That seems ok based on an indy shop that did a pre-purchase B2 service (spark plugs, oil change, cabin and air filter) = $720 labor. Parts were plugs = $250, oil filter = $30 and air filters = $102 and cabin filters = $137. Parts "cost" were a total rip-off but the car dealer was paying as condition of sale to do the B2 service.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 09:48 PM
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Yeah, having done M278 plugs myself, I wouldn't take any less than $500 to do it again!

If that's for labor and the plugs, then $552 is a pretty fair price.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 10:59 PM
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Very fair - plugs need to be indexed and that takes some time and talent to do right.
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 08:05 AM
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 08:18 AM
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Yes - it means that the plugs when tightened to the proper torque end up with the electrode facing away from the injector. These boosted DI motors need everything to happen at exactly the right moment during combustion and this helps insure it does.

Doing the plug job right means taking extra steps during installation and also sanding the plug washers ever so slightly to get the right fitment. Those getting super low prices on this job should insure that the indexing is happening as spec'd by MB. My indy thought I was just messing with him until I showed him the print out of the MB Service bulletin on the procedure. You can find it in other threads here on the site.
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 11:54 AM
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That sounds like a good price to me.
A few years ago, when I was at my local MB dealer to get warranty work done, the service manager asked me if I wanted to have my plugs replaced for only $800.
I replied, "At less than 30,000 miles?!"
He said yes.
I told him I was a former MB mechanic and would do it myself in a couple of hours when the mileage is a lot higher.
He said his boss told him to ask and then asked me if I wanted to work there. LOL!
It's all about the money at most dealerships.
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Old Dec 18, 2024 | 01:00 PM
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Yes - it means that the plugs when tightened to the proper torque end up with the electrode facing away from the injector. These boosted DI motors need everything to happen at exactly the right moment during combustion and this helps insure it does.

Doing the plug job right means taking extra steps during installation and also sanding the plug washers ever so slightly to get the right fitment. Those getting super low prices on this job should insure that the indexing is happening as spec'd by MB. My indy thought I was just messing with him until I showed him the print out of the MB Service bulletin on the procedure. You can find it in other threads here on the site.
That's really good to know. I'm sure the vast majority of us have never heard of "indexing" spark plugs, but I'm sure the German specialty shop I'm taking my car to would be well aware of it. All of their mechanics are ASE certified and came from high end BMW, MB, VW, Audi, & Porsche dealerships.
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I paid around $850 to have them done at the dealer near me on the M176.
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I did them myself at 50k and paid attention to the torque values.
What I did not know at that time was "indexing."

Thank you for teaching me something new.

I never thought about the sanding etc.

Ive always just gapped the plugs, and put them in very carefully and to proper torque.

I have to do this job again in about 10K miles, so now I will pay extra attention to the torque values.
I am guessing proper torque will lead to proper indexing.....

Really cool to learn this.
Thank you.
V
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Originally Posted by TripleDown
Doing the plug job right means taking extra steps during installation and also sanding the plug washers ever so slightly to get the right fitment. Those getting super low prices on this job should insure that the indexing is happening as spec'd by MB. My indy thought I was just messing with him until I showed him the print out of the MB Service bulletin on the procedure. You can find it in other threads here on the site.
So I’m new here. Any way to save messages like THIS?
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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 10:08 AM
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This might help those looking for the official word on the subject:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ark-plugs.html

I also applies to more than just the M157 motor but I don't know the full list offhand.
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Did the job myself in my 16 v12 Maybach. There were 24 plugs and those alone were not cheap. The job took me all day. I can guess 500 for the v8 is a good deal.


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Originally Posted by vinflouen
I did them myself at 50k and paid attention to the torque values.
What I did not know at that time was "indexing."

Thank you for teaching me something new.

I never thought about the sanding etc.

Ive always just gapped the plugs, and put them in very carefully and to proper torque.

I have to do this job again in about 10K miles, so now I will pay extra attention to the torque values.
I am guessing proper torque will lead to proper indexing.....

Really cool to learn this.
Thank you.
V
Indexing is really important. Here's a video that shows the procedure on the M157 motor, but the same principle/procedure applies:
The video title is just hype, you can ignore that part.

Last edited by carlosinseattle; Dec 19, 2024 at 05:24 PM.
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