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Old 02-07-2022, 10:35 AM
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Thanks! It was definitely an unexpected switch up. I typically enjoy sportier vehicles, however recently I've had a change in positions at work which means more travel as well as entertaining clients and needed a car to cater to these needs. The CLS while a great car, has a backseat that many would not enjoy, and I really wanted something that would soak up the road and provide the absolute most amount of comfort with supple seats, great drivers assist, and massage seats, hence S-Class, it's pretty much the only car in its class I currently like. The 7er got ugly (and the next gen looks to stay that way), Genesis and Lexus only do V6's (Inline-6 would be preferable), and Audi just isn't my taste. I also did not want an SUV (although the new Range Rover is definitely nice but not out yet either). I also recently sold my beloved Z4 M which I bought before the market was up and have sadly been having many reliability issues with it that put it out of commission for the better half of summer (and the car is only good for half the year in MD) so I took advantage of the market and got out before any more issues. I hopefully plan to buy a cheap Miata to fix my miss for fun convertibles once the weather isn't anything but freezing.


Oh yes there is a story, I'll try to keep it short. I grew up in a house of BMW's with my father having 5er's since the 70's. I've pretty much driven every generation of 5-Series. Around then I didn't have a weekend car so it was important that the daily have some sporting aspects to it. I inherited the 540i from my mother (she doesn't drive anymore) as my 330i was at 200k+ miles and suffered the dreaded cooling system meltdown that plagues many older Bimmers. Anyways about over a year with that car I had numerous gremlins from the HVAC failing in the first 10k miles, to the iDrive system crashing constantly, a sudden loss of coolant and a few tows. I pretty much got the 5-series from hell lol. On top of this, the car felt very un-BMW like, the chassis was just a let down compared to past 5-Series pre 2010, and BMW cannot figure out EPS. Funny enough in the service waiting room I read the car and driver comparison test with the E43 where it won first place and was shocked as I didn't know that MB was making driver oriented cars below the normal 63-AMG's. I kept this in mind later as in late 2018 someone hit my 5er and totaled it, and a friend of mine bought a C43 and was telling me about how MB's are making fun cars. By then the E53 and CLS53 replaced the E43 and I decided to test drive it and was impressed by the athletic handling as well as the character that the electric supercharger and 48-volt system added to the I6. Since then, the wife and I have just been buying MB's as we have a great dealer and salesman, as well as just like their current designs and drive. We still like to give BMW chances when we look, but I'm afraid their new styling direction is not winning me back which is a shame because they are getting their mojo back when it comes to driving finally.
I wholeheartedly agree with the bolded sentence but I am biased...

Glad to hear that you are enjoying MB now. Thanks for your contribution on mbworld.org, it helped a lot of people as well. Your reviews pay great attention to detail and the information you provided are always super helpful to everyone, your answers to questions are thorough as well.
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:02 AM
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Beautiful! Same spec as our W126.
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It's a beauty. Did you get all the features that you had ordered?
I didn't order it, I'm friends with the GM and he told me he'd message me if any unsold S-Class' come in. I saw the red leather and was sold! The only option that was removed was active ambient lighting which while it would have been nice, I can live without it.
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I wholeheartedly agree with the bolded sentence but I am biased...

Glad to hear that you are enjoying MB now. Thanks for your contribution on mbworld.org, it helped a lot of people as well. Your reviews pay great attention to detail and the information you provided are always super helpful to everyone, your answers to questions are thorough as well.
Thanks, I always wanted to be an automotive journalist so when I can test drive a car and offer my opinion to others who may not be able to, whether it be on here or Bimmerpost, I always take the opportunity.
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:42 AM
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Thanks, I always wanted to be an automotive journalist so when I can test drive a car and offer my opinion to others who may not be able to, whether it be on here or Bimmerpost, I always take the opportunity.
Very nice, good for you. I hope that dream comes true I am looking forward to more MB reviews from you in the foreseeable future.
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by js_cls
I didn't order it, I'm friends with the GM and he told me he'd message me if any unsold S-Class' come in. I saw the red leather and was sold! The only option that was removed was active ambient lighting which while it would have been nice, I can live without it.
Yup that interior is a chef's kiss.
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Congratulations!!! Beautiful, thats a great combo
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Old 02-10-2022, 11:33 PM
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Congratulations!!! Beautiful, thats a great combo

I wonder how it feels being chauffeured on this while doing wheel shopping?
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450 or 580 long or short

My dealer just lent me a 580L for a few days. Absolutely love the car so smooth. However the 580 only come LWB so i would need to go to the 450 SWB. But figure not fast enough. Hopefully somebody has driven both. Also should i order full 4 wheel steer.?
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Is that LWB.?
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YES ON 4 WHEEL STEERING!!!! I actually executed my first U-turn in scary Miami yesterday and it turned on a dime!!!!! As good as my GTc
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YES ON 4 WHEEL STEERING!!!! I actually executed my first U-turn in scary Miami yesterday and it turned on a dime!!!!! As good as my GTc
It’s amazing and incredibly useful isn’t it !!? If you’ve got the 4.5 deg image the 10 deg !
I’ve got the 10 deg and I can’t say enough good things about it!
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I have the 4.5 degree and its plenty good!!! I think the 10 deg. restricts the size of the wheel.
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I have the 4.5 degree and its plenty good!!! I think the 10 deg. restricts the size of the wheel.
It does. Personally, I chose the rear wheel steering over an extra inch of wheel
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I won't argue with that!!! It is truly incredible.
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I bought my S on a whim. Wasn't really going out to buy one because I had some fears of it being half-baked. But, Its been a couple of weeks now and I am falling deep for my S! Besides the obvious it is truly a rocket!!! You are at over 100mph and you just don't know it. I truly missed the S-Class comfort and the overall S presence.
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Yes you can only run the 20inch. I am so in love with this car. Its just so smooth. So i will place an order today probably. 4 wheel steer, 4D hifi, Onyx Black, Amg line etc.
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Yes you can only run the 20inch.
Just to be clear for those that are unfamiliar: 20 inch wheels “or less.”
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Yes you can only run the 20inch. I am so in love with this car. Its just so smooth. So i will place an order today probably. 4 wheel steer, 4D hifi, Onyx Black, Amg line etc.
Nice spec! Drop some pics when you get it!
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Im just finalizing now. Has anybody on hear seen the onyx Black on a Mercedes yet.?? As somebody mentioned it looks a bit brown from a distance.? If this is a problem i will need to change to Obsid. Thanks
Not seen an Onyx Black.
If using the MBUSA Configurator, it does look brownish.
1 is daytime look and the other is evening look.
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Gee it does Big Time.. Thank you so much. Not worth the risk i will take the obsidian Black.
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Im just finalizing now. Has anybody on hear seen the onyx Black on a Mercedes yet.?? As somebody mentioned it looks a bit brown from a distance.? If this is a problem i will need to change to Obsid. Thanks
Yes, Onyx does have noticeable brown metallic bits to it. For a pure black, switch to Obsidian.
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W223 S500 LWB 4-Matic, W222 S450 LWB 4-Matic, W211 E500 4-Matic Wagon
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My dealer just lent me a 580L for a few days. Absolutely love the car so smooth. However the 580 only come LWB so i would need to go to the 450 SWB. But figure not fast enough. Hopefully somebody has driven both. Also should i order full 4 wheel steer.?
Thanks a lot.
S500 Straight 6 petrol turbo with 48V electric super charger mild hybrid design is plenty fast for us. Could have had the V8 if we wanted; picked the 6 for ease of repair if needed and its silky smooth running. Also we did not want any engine with cylinder de-activation included in it's design Don't get me wrong, we like German engineered V8's and still own a E500 4-Matic wagon. The V8 is easier to drive however, by that I mean the transmission downshifts less as the V8 has more torque so keeping the vehicle at speed take less thought with the gas peddle position.

I would think the 4 wheel steering would be more stable at high speed on the curves and lane changes but I'm not sure at what top speed, if any, it may cut out.

251 kph (155 mph) how fast do you need to go?





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