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The run flats have got to go! They are not horrible, but the Bridgestone QuietTrack tires are just SO much better. The RFT give the car a nervous feeling, where the QuietTrack’s are just so smooth and buttoned down to the road. I feel the difference is significant. I’m torn with going for the whole smash and dumping the 19’s & putting 18’s on it. Of course, then I have to stirs the 19’s & tires for lease return day. Decisions, decisions.
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I wouldn't go to the 18s, replacing the run flats on the 19s you'll be very happy with the ride.
I experienced that wheel recently in the E350 loaner I had. Lets ignore for a second the E350 having the same steering wheel as a $150,000 S580...which is bad enough, but the new haptic controls are just so much less intuitive and satisfying to use...
I experienced that wheel recently in the E350 loaner I had. Lets ignore for a second the E350 having the same steering wheel as a $150,000 S580...which is bad enough, but the new haptic controls are just so much less intuitive and satisfying to use...
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I respect your opinion, but there are guys here who will swear that their E63S with 22” wheels and rubber band depth sidewall tires, is the best riding car on the planet. I go by the seat of my pants. That said, I’ll probably stick with 19’s, just don’t know if I’ll stick with the 19’s I have. Not a fan of wheels with black painted areas.
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I respect your opinion, but there are guys here who will swear that their E63S with 22” wheels and rubber band depth sidewall tires, is the best riding car on the planet. I go by the seat of my pants. That said, I’ll probably stick with 19’s, just don’t know if I’ll stick with the 19’s I have. Not a fan of wheels with black painted areas.
Remember I had an LS400 and an LS430 and two LS460s all on the smallest wheels available. I think we like the same kind of ride quality.
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255/40/21 front and 285/35/21 rear is the biggest optional tire size on the Ghost A lot has to do with suspension tuning. The W223 could have a softer ride but then it'll handle like a boat.
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I respect your opinion, but there are guys here who will swear that their E63S with 22” wheels and rubber band depth sidewall tires, is the best riding car on the planet. I go by the seat of my pants. That said, I’ll probably stick with 19’s, just don’t know if I’ll stick with the 19’s I have. Not a fan of wheels with black painted areas.
Just get new tires and you will be happy
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The EABC system seems to work better, but I still have not put enough miles on it to know for sure. I’ve basically driven the “same” car for about 8 years now, having a 2015, 2018 & 2020 W222’s, all with 18” wheels and MBC. The old car feels like a comfortable shoe, while the new car is taking a LOT of getting used to. The new steering wheel was a change for the sake of change. I feel it is worse in appearance and function. Same with the idiotic door handles. And, the center console storage is ITSY-BITSY compared to the old car.
The run flats have got to go! They are not horrible, but the Bridgestone QuietTrack tires are just SO much better. The RFT give the car a nervous feeling, where the QuietTrack’s are just so smooth and buttoned down to the road. I feel the difference is significant. I’m torn with going for the whole smash and dumping the 19’s & putting 18’s on it. Of course, then I have to stirs the 19’s & tires for lease return day. Decisions, decisions.
The run flats have got to go! They are not horrible, but the Bridgestone QuietTrack tires are just SO much better. The RFT give the car a nervous feeling, where the QuietTrack’s are just so smooth and buttoned down to the road. I feel the difference is significant. I’m torn with going for the whole smash and dumping the 19’s & putting 18’s on it. Of course, then I have to stirs the 19’s & tires for lease return day. Decisions, decisions.
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The EABC system seems to work better, but I still have not put enough miles on it to know for sure. I’ve basically driven the “same” car for about 8 years now, having a 2015, 2018 & 2020 W222’s, all with 18” wheels and MBC. The old car feels like a comfortable shoe, while the new car is taking a LOT of getting used to. The new steering wheel was a change for the sake of change. I feel it is worse in appearance and function. Same with the idiotic door handles. And, the center console storage is ITSY-BITSY compared to the old car.
The run flats have got to go! They are not horrible, but the Bridgestone QuietTrack tires are just SO much better. The RFT give the car a nervous feeling, where the QuietTrack’s are just so smooth and buttoned down to the road. I feel the difference is significant. I’m torn with going for the whole smash and dumping the 19’s & putting 18’s on it. Of course, then I have to stirs the 19’s & tires for lease return day. Decisions, decisions.
The run flats have got to go! They are not horrible, but the Bridgestone QuietTrack tires are just SO much better. The RFT give the car a nervous feeling, where the QuietTrack’s are just so smooth and buttoned down to the road. I feel the difference is significant. I’m torn with going for the whole smash and dumping the 19’s & putting 18’s on it. Of course, then I have to stirs the 19’s & tires for lease return day. Decisions, decisions.
My friend bought a new 2000 S-Class that had a great ride, and my neighbor has about a 10 year old S-Class that also rides smooth. Different tires might help, but I think Mercedes chose this ride for what ever reason. Could be Mileage, handling, or wear. Who knows, but it is NOT luxury.
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At 2K miles the seats feel softer & the sound system speakers are starting to sound a lot better as they break-in.
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Folks, the world has moved on from the 1990 Lincoln Town Car, whose ride seems to be hinted at in some of the posts. Let's agree that the S-Class demographic includes the right tail of the age bell curve, so the Town Car example is germane. The nearest vehicles today with a ride like the Town Car are the Flying Spur or Ghost.
Carmakers think large wheels and low profile tires are cool. They sell. But the ride is bad.
Options:
- don't buy cars with modern era wheel/tire combinations
- have custom wheels made as hyperion suggested
- buy a Flying Spur or Ghost
- buy the S-Class and stop complaining
Carmakers think large wheels and low profile tires are cool. They sell. But the ride is bad.
Options:
- don't buy cars with modern era wheel/tire combinations
- have custom wheels made as hyperion suggested
- buy a Flying Spur or Ghost
- buy the S-Class and stop complaining
Last edited by chassis; Apr 2, 2022 at 09:11 AM.
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Folks, the world has moved on from the 1990 Lincoln Town Car, whose ride seems to be hinted at in some of the posts. Let's agree that the S-Class demographic includes the right tail of the age bell curve, so the Town Car example is germane. The nearest vehicles today with a ride like the Town Car are the Flying Spur or Ghost.
Carmakers think large wheels and low profile tires are cool. They sell. But the ride is bad.
Options:
- don't buy cars with modern era wheel/tire combinations
- have custom wheels made as hyperion suggested
- buy a Flying Spur or Ghost
- buy the S-Class and stop complaining
Carmakers think large wheels and low profile tires are cool. They sell. But the ride is bad.
Options:
- don't buy cars with modern era wheel/tire combinations
- have custom wheels made as hyperion suggested
- buy a Flying Spur or Ghost
- buy the S-Class and stop complaining
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Same here, great balance of ride comfort and looks. Very comfortable, no car can perfectly isolate the road but this one is pretty damn close without going up to Bentley/RR money. I imagine the EABC setup takes it a step further.
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There's a lot of discussion about the tires and ride. I have a 2021 S580 with 20" AMG wheels. The ride is NOT world class. You feel every large or small road imperfection. I traded in a '21 GLE450 and the ride was the same. It had 19" wheels that were not run flat (had a spare in the trunk). The ride was also similar, smooth unless there is a road bump, crack, or broken pavement.
My friend bought a new 2000 S-Class that had a great ride, and my neighbor has about a 10 year old S-Class that also rides smooth. Different tires might help, but I think Mercedes chose this ride for what ever reason. Could be Mileage, handling, or wear. Who knows, but it is NOT luxury.
My friend bought a new 2000 S-Class that had a great ride, and my neighbor has about a 10 year old S-Class that also rides smooth. Different tires might help, but I think Mercedes chose this ride for what ever reason. Could be Mileage, handling, or wear. Who knows, but it is NOT luxury.
Now, with that said I run lower than stated tire pressures, over the years manufacturers have dramatically increased tire pressures to make cars more efficient, I run 30/31 in mine and there is a difference for sure at that vs the 35 on the fuel door.
But, as was said this is not a Lincoln Town Car, nor is it supposed to be. You don't float numbly over the road, you do feel what the road is doing underneath the car, you just shouldn't be bothered by those imperfections.
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