cd8705

I live in the Chicago suburbs. It's basically a grid, for the most part. For that reason, and because a lot of folks on this thread indicated that EABC actually makes the car ride a little rougher on straight line drives, I opted against it.

W205C43PFL

I think you made a good choice based on that.

AMG350

I agree with what you said (MBC is for sure better than ABC), but drive them back to back for the W223.

I do not have ABC but given the mass of the car I can’t help but wonder how beneficial it would be. Spec’ing again Id get it. So there you have it! Two totally different opinions :-) meaning choose wisely as we are both correct ;-)

The best in my opinion is PDCC by Porsche which is other worldly! It just keeps the car flat and no gimmicky leaning.

FYI, I just went to my car to verify, Gross Weight is 6768 lbs!! (3020 front, 3748 rear).

W205C43PFL

Wow it never occurred to me the W223 is that heavy!

AMG350

I know right? Was very shocked by that figure at car delivery, but the momentum generated really highlights again the feeling: “Get out of my way, I’m coming through”. I wonder what the Maybach weighs with the hybrid version!

Keep in mind that this car should never be on non-EV tires. I know it was mentioned in the thread to go non-runflat. I haven’t bothered to see if mine are RFT or not, but I know that when it comes time to replace these tires, gonna go with OEM. I can only imagine how quickly the rims would be destroyed otherwise since the sidewalls of standard tires would buckle. Also, I have 20’s and they’re great but that’s as big as I’m going. If your aftermarket rims aren’t forged they will bend on your first drive.

Not trying to scare anyone, but providing some practical information for consideration on a totally awesome car. These are things that in the end didn’t matter to me but were interesting to know during research of the car.

W205C43PFL

I would assume the size of the wheels and tires will affect the degree of rear wheel steering as well so definitely should be careful of what tire sizes to go for if going for something other than 20s, which isn't a concern for you since you are sticking with 20s.

cd8705

I plan on using OEM rims but substituting the OEM tires with the Pirelli P7 AS Plus 3s, which Pirelli claims can handle 2,000 pounds per tire. My dealer indicated that these could be procured through Mercedes, thus not affecting any of the warranties.

AMG350

That will be interesting when you do that. My experience with Pirellis is suboptimal on other cars and prefer Michelin Pilot Sport AS3’s for daily drivers. When you have some experience with the pirellis you mentioned, let me know how they differ from stock. The OEM tire is very quiet, but grip may differ. All I know is when Michelin makes an appropriate tire for this car/rims I may jump to that.

MBS63AMG

I bought a Honda Accord hybrid about 5 years ago and I liked it. I got around 50 mpg and I feel this is as close as I will come to electric mobility. That being said, I would buy a Mercedes hybrid if, and only if, they would make it look like a car that is an ICE vehicle. Hybrids make sense in that you are able to use the best of both worlds to the max. Less likely to be stranded due to an electric grid going down or the inability to find a charging station. Like BMW is doing, MB should make their EVs look like their ICE counterparts. I travel hundreds of miles each week and I just can't spend all week charging an all out EV as I stay in hotels at least once or twice a week. This week I'm out of town 4 nights.

cd8705

The S580e is the new to North America plug-in hybrid that is the topic of this thread. It looks identical to the S580, its ICE counterpart.

BenjaminKohl

Just to add: e-abc is not available on the S580e. Also, i think it;s definitely confusing, because the old MBC was such a comfortable drive, but it seems like e-abc is really the "sport suspension" options for someone who wants an S63 lite.

MBS63AMG

Then that's even better.

W205C43PFL

If going the Michelin route, you could consider quieter tires, or instead of the plus 3s, you could get the 4s.

W205C43PFL

You do sacrifice range and also weight when sharing platforms but I get your point, that said the next S-Class is likely to be fully electric so there is that too.

W205C43PFL

I might had read the previous post incorrectly, are we going from Pirelli to AS3 or the other way around?

W205C43PFL

I heard it has a inline 6 instead of a V8 though even for North America, is that still true?

W205C43PFL

I forgot what spring MBC was based on but I believe it wasn't an air suspension while E-ABC is so that is a different too I guess.

AMG350

Yes, it has an inline 6 in the front and a 28kwH battery in the back. It looks exactly like the S500/S580 but has two fuel doors (left side electric, right side gas). When I ordered my car, I had the option of EABC but now it seems not configurable that way. Someone mentioned in an earlier comment how quiet the car is with electric mode. Never really thought about that till today and you are right! It makes for a very relaxed experience.

W205C43PFL

Appreciate you sharing your thoughts with the sound insulation experience.