Thread that outlines the problems with the W223...?
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Maybe we should start one 
The main problem, that I am aware of, is the 48 volt battery problem that causes no starts, engine overheating, and even the car shutting off while in motion.
And then the 21" wheel problem...
Any others...?
The main problem, that I am aware of, is the 48 volt battery problem that causes no starts, engine overheating, and even the car shutting off while in motion.
And then the 21" wheel problem...
Any others...?
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Take a look here: https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...23-review.html
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I love my s580. I enjoy driving it. But it does have some issues albeit minor, but they add up:
- Cheap plastic snap-on on the side of front seat pops off regularly.
- I get a low battery warning from MercedesMe weekly or more. I was told by the dealer to ignore.
- The foot sensor to open the trunk rarely or never works
- The CarPlay never connects properly on its own. I have to manually connect every time.
- The car door handles are frustrating they are made well but they open/close inexplicably, don't always respond to touch, and are hard to pull sometimes.
- The 21" wheels look great but I dunno of the car is too heavy or the Pirellis are too thin, but I cannot keep the 21" in NY/NJ with the bad roads without a blowout or fear of. I suppose Pirelli is to blame here.
- That black plastic console was not the best design and choice for such an important area of a 150k car. That central area could be so much more impressive with the right design and materials. I have the Natural Grain Walnut wood with Aluminum Lines ($4k upgrade) and that should have been picked up in the console as well - like the EQS. But that is just my design preference.
- The brakes fee a bit funny sometimes and the acceleration from start can be late or overly responsive - not as smooth as other cars of the same caliber.
Overall I love the car.
- Cheap plastic snap-on on the side of front seat pops off regularly.
- I get a low battery warning from MercedesMe weekly or more. I was told by the dealer to ignore.
- The foot sensor to open the trunk rarely or never works
- The CarPlay never connects properly on its own. I have to manually connect every time.
- The car door handles are frustrating they are made well but they open/close inexplicably, don't always respond to touch, and are hard to pull sometimes.
- The 21" wheels look great but I dunno of the car is too heavy or the Pirellis are too thin, but I cannot keep the 21" in NY/NJ with the bad roads without a blowout or fear of. I suppose Pirelli is to blame here.
- That black plastic console was not the best design and choice for such an important area of a 150k car. That central area could be so much more impressive with the right design and materials. I have the Natural Grain Walnut wood with Aluminum Lines ($4k upgrade) and that should have been picked up in the console as well - like the EQS. But that is just my design preference.
- The brakes fee a bit funny sometimes and the acceleration from start can be late or overly responsive - not as smooth as other cars of the same caliber.
Overall I love the car.
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Your car is no shutting down, you need to lock the doors and get the fob out of contact after a drive. Do that and the handles will work as expected, and you'll stop getting the warnings.
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I'm sure you are right, but does it say ANYWHERE in the Owner's Manual that such procedures are necessary to insure the proper functioning of the vehicle in general or the door handles in particular?
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If your eye hurts every time you poke it, you should stop poking it, regardless of what any manual may or may not say. The only reasons to suffer this type of problem are lack of knowledge or a bigger problem with pigheadedness; in the one case a fix is unknown and in the other men can be stupid. We'll climb any mountain to get laid, but stand on principle and suffer, rather than fix a problem which we believe shouldn't exist.
One last thought here is that I've been test-driving a few cars myself lately, and at no time did I miss the fact that the handles didn't pop out.
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That it shouldn't be a problem is a given, it is however a problem.
If your eye hurts every time you poke it, you should stop poking it, regardless of what any manual may or may not say. The only reasons to suffer this type of problem are lack of knowledge or a bigger problem with pigheadedness; in the one case a fix is unknown and in the other men can be stupid. We'll climb any mountain to get laid, but stand on principle and suffer, rather than fix a problem which we believe shouldn't exist.
One last thought here is that I've been test-driving a few cars myself lately, and at no time did I miss the fact that the handles didn't pop out.
If your eye hurts every time you poke it, you should stop poking it, regardless of what any manual may or may not say. The only reasons to suffer this type of problem are lack of knowledge or a bigger problem with pigheadedness; in the one case a fix is unknown and in the other men can be stupid. We'll climb any mountain to get laid, but stand on principle and suffer, rather than fix a problem which we believe shouldn't exist.
One last thought here is that I've been test-driving a few cars myself lately, and at no time did I miss the fact that the handles didn't pop out.
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Yes, my trip into Mercedes land has left me unimpressed. There are some good attributes to MB and I've enjoyed my ownership experience; but not nearly as much as I would have if the corporate boy wonders hadn't been allowed to wreak havoc on what would have been great if they had just spent a few more dollars. But that would require some level of respect for a customer, and I'm not seeing or feeling that respect.
I suspect I'm probably going back to Porsche. Unlike here, the product delivered what I was buying, even if it was stupidly overpriced. I might do a BMW on the way though; haven't been over there since they ruined the M cars and I feel like it's time to give them another chance. I had thought about an S63 but that ridiculously oversized star is a killer all by itself and outside the engine it feels like more of the same otherwise. It's walk quietly and carry a massively overpowered V8 for me so we'll see; the options are getting thin nowadays.
I suspect I'm probably going back to Porsche. Unlike here, the product delivered what I was buying, even if it was stupidly overpriced. I might do a BMW on the way though; haven't been over there since they ruined the M cars and I feel like it's time to give them another chance. I had thought about an S63 but that ridiculously oversized star is a killer all by itself and outside the engine it feels like more of the same otherwise. It's walk quietly and carry a massively overpowered V8 for me so we'll see; the options are getting thin nowadays.
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Take a look here: https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...23-review.html
It seems that there were quite a few "problems" he outlined - that were operator error, etc...
In addition to the 48V battery problem and the 21" wheel problem already stated, and the now fuel pump recall - it seems that the only other major problems were outlined by chassis...?
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