Exit summary.
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However, I will most likely go the SUV route. Not as hard core as Crabs X5M but something a little softer.
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I would like to think they will, but honestly, I feel that they have gotten just so diversified, the brand has gotten so diluted, with so many models, that I think it will take several years if at all. When I hear of the excellence of the Mazda, I can’t help but long for a more simple vehicle that actually WORKS. If only Lexus had not lost their minds. Oh well.
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The thing is, every time Ola and other executives are questioned by analysts, they are only asked about the bottom line, it's always about how they plan to increase profit. Not a single question about quality. For some reason, MB is more sensitive to that. Could be their bonus structure or types of majority shareholders.
They will be eliminating low margin products like A and B classes though. If I ever get to talk to CEO and Co, I will bring up customers complaints.
They will be eliminating low margin products like A and B classes though. If I ever get to talk to CEO and Co, I will bring up customers complaints.
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The thing is, every time Ola and other executives are questioned by analysts, they are only asked about the bottom line, it's always about how they plan to increase profit. Not a single question about quality. For some reason, MB is more sensitive to that. Could be their bonus structure or types of majority shareholders.
They will be eliminating low margin products like A and B classes though. If I ever get to talk to CEO and Co, I will bring up customers complaints.
They will be eliminating low margin products like A and B classes though. If I ever get to talk to CEO and Co, I will bring up customers complaints.
IMHO the entry level should be the E class and Maybach should be merged fully with the S class and the "new" S class should be totally focused on quality, reliability, luxury and driveability. I would call the new S class something like the "SM" class and it would position itself firmly between the current S class and Bentley. No longer would there be a separate S class and Maybach S class. Have some ***** Mercedes and plant the flag, remember your pedigree and heritage, and stake your claim!!
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Getting rid of the more volume lower models would definitely be a step in the right direction. I think of my fathers generation and what a Sonderklasse represented and I am horrified by how the MB brand has been diluted.
IMHO the entry level should be the E class and Maybach should be merged fully with the S class and the "new" S class should be totally focused on quality, reliability, luxury and driveability. I would call the new S class something like the "SM" class and it would position itself firmly between the current S class and Bentley. No longer would there be a separate S class and Maybach S class. Have some ***** Mercedes and plant the flag, remember your pedigree and heritage, and stake your claim!!
IMHO the entry level should be the E class and Maybach should be merged fully with the S class and the "new" S class should be totally focused on quality, reliability, luxury and driveability. I would call the new S class something like the "SM" class and it would position itself firmly between the current S class and Bentley. No longer would there be a separate S class and Maybach S class. Have some ***** Mercedes and plant the flag, remember your pedigree and heritage, and stake your claim!!
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And look at this:
What's Ahead for the Mercedes-Benz S-Class and EQS
Mercedes is rethinking the strategy for its flagship sedans, and we're ready to speculate on what that will mean for future products
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...ss-eqs-future/
What's Ahead for the Mercedes-Benz S-Class and EQS
Mercedes is rethinking the strategy for its flagship sedans, and we're ready to speculate on what that will mean for future products
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...ss-eqs-future/
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Any reason why you can't do the same? I'll even tell you the easier way: you go to Perplexity ai, enter what you need, it searches everything and gives you the link to the source material. You can either use it for free or $20 for the pro .
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Oh, I'm an old guy and have never heard of this service, sorry.
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Crap.... your one of the reasons I logon....
please keep your S, and pass on the other thing
What the heck am i going to do if you go through with this?
please keep your S, and pass on the other thing
What the heck am i going to do if you go through with this?
As I drove into the typically rainy PNW sunset in the new ride, I was a little sad about saying goodbye to my S Class, she'll be missed, warts and all. I'm not going to cover the good and bad with this car because we've all done it so much already. Suffice it for me to say that I liked a lot of what was on offer and she will be missed.
I think more so; I'm going to miss most of you. This may be among the best cadre of owners I've been among in my forum going, and I wish you all well with this car and whatever comes next.
I'll be around now and then, certainly when the refresh hits. I could see myself doing this again depending on what gets fixed.
Happy trails gentlemen!
Or, if you prefer the chatGPT version...
As the dusky hues of a typical Pacific Northwest sunset painted the sky, I found myself navigating new beginnings in my latest automotive adventure. There was a tinge of melancholy, however, as I reflected on parting ways with my S Class. This car, with all its quirks and features, has been more than just a vehicle; it's been a companion on countless journeys. I've decided to skip the customary recap of highs and lows—we've all shared and debated these points extensively. What's important for me to express is my genuine appreciation for the unique qualities it offered, and yes, it will indeed be missed.
Yet, as I look back, I realize that what I'll miss even more is this extraordinary community. Interacting with such a passionate, knowledgeable group of owners has been a highlight of my experience. This forum isn't just a collection of enthusiasts; it's a fellowship bound by a shared love for automotive excellence. I am grateful for the wisdom, humor, and camaraderie I've found here, and I want to extend my best wishes to each of you, both in your current and future automotive endeavors.
Fear not, this isn't a final farewell. I plan to keep a close eye on the evolution of our beloved model, and the prospect of rejoining this journey for the next refresh is more than enticing. It’s the potential improvements and the lure of what’s to come that might just pull me back in.
So, as I venture forth on this new path, I leave you with a sentiment that feels most fitting: Happy trails, gentlemen! May our paths cross again, whether on these forums or on the open road, chasing yet another unforgettable sunset.
I think more so; I'm going to miss most of you. This may be among the best cadre of owners I've been among in my forum going, and I wish you all well with this car and whatever comes next.
I'll be around now and then, certainly when the refresh hits. I could see myself doing this again depending on what gets fixed.
Happy trails gentlemen!
Or, if you prefer the chatGPT version...
As the dusky hues of a typical Pacific Northwest sunset painted the sky, I found myself navigating new beginnings in my latest automotive adventure. There was a tinge of melancholy, however, as I reflected on parting ways with my S Class. This car, with all its quirks and features, has been more than just a vehicle; it's been a companion on countless journeys. I've decided to skip the customary recap of highs and lows—we've all shared and debated these points extensively. What's important for me to express is my genuine appreciation for the unique qualities it offered, and yes, it will indeed be missed.
Yet, as I look back, I realize that what I'll miss even more is this extraordinary community. Interacting with such a passionate, knowledgeable group of owners has been a highlight of my experience. This forum isn't just a collection of enthusiasts; it's a fellowship bound by a shared love for automotive excellence. I am grateful for the wisdom, humor, and camaraderie I've found here, and I want to extend my best wishes to each of you, both in your current and future automotive endeavors.
Fear not, this isn't a final farewell. I plan to keep a close eye on the evolution of our beloved model, and the prospect of rejoining this journey for the next refresh is more than enticing. It’s the potential improvements and the lure of what’s to come that might just pull me back in.
So, as I venture forth on this new path, I leave you with a sentiment that feels most fitting: Happy trails, gentlemen! May our paths cross again, whether on these forums or on the open road, chasing yet another unforgettable sunset.
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Sorry about this but (might be?) too late, OP already (?, not sure if OP got the X5 M yet) went to the "dark side" with the X5 M. Hopefully MB comes up with a product and/or OP finds a MB product that suits them again in the near future, as it stands and the entire MB portfolio, there is not a product that OP wants.
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I'm visiting BMW for this round and the Merc had gone to a new home.
I was honest when I said I liked the car, I would come back for another if they fixed some of the issues with it. We'll see how it's looking in a year or two when I get tired of the current ride.
I was honest when I said I liked the car, I would come back for another if they fixed some of the issues with it. We'll see how it's looking in a year or two when I get tired of the current ride.
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Here's hoping the W223 facelift will have the improvements you are looking for.
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I'm beginning to wonder if the Alabama plant and the poor quality of those automobiles has , over time, corrupted quality control and gave MB so much profit that they have eased up on the quality and value of their original products we loved prior to the 90s?
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Europeans I know say that MB vehicles in Europe have a reputation for many problems. The low-performer disease affects the entire enterprise, globally.
Vance is a low quality operation.
MB has a low quality dealer network
MB corporate has low quality customer care.
MB AG has low quality design and development processes.
A pattern is emerging.
Vance is a low quality operation.
MB has a low quality dealer network
MB corporate has low quality customer care.
MB AG has low quality design and development processes.
A pattern is emerging.
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All time greatest car.
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When I visited Germany, the car I used on the autobahn was a C class (2006). It took 130mph speeds very well. Then, my friend and I rented an E class and believe it or not we both thought the C class handled high speeds better than the E class at that time. Not sure why, but that was our thoughts.
