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…. I do plan on at least registering a complaint with the dealer, as this issue needs to be on their radar. Honestly, if I had a long highway commute and had to drive over worn roads every day, I’d probably change vehicles.
Ops….. I am seeing a buyback request coming soon : O :O :O …… Or no, @Streamliner? Lol just kidding
Your tire size gives you some fantastic tire choices. I've had Conti DWS06+ and thy're my favorite tires. Another choice is the Bridgestone RE 980AS tires, which I had on my Jaguar XFR, and LOVED. The Conti's will be a little quieter for you than the 980's, but both are fantastic choices. And the Michelin's are fantastic too, but a little pricier. In any event, you have tons of choices for that tire size and load rating, many that will offer more comfort and less noise. And if you go up to 20's, you can get tires with foam or other technology to further reduce road noise.
That was kinda my impression of the outgoing 7-series. I rented one for a half week. It was a bit worse NVH overall than my LS460, while being a wildly more capable machine.
I bet better tires will make an improvement, within reason. EV owners tend to be religiously fanatical (we've had 6 now!) Everything is the smoothest and quietest ever.
Anyone in i7 land come from a 222 or 223? Overall BMWs are fantastic machines, especially nowadays since they tend to be very reliable too.
Just looking at Consumer Reports now, BMW has 20 recommended models. Including i4, and i5, but not iX. Most have excellent scores.
They've really upped their review game this year too, including specifics about ride and NVH that we'd previously have to go to forums for.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by carlosinseattle
Your tire size gives you some fantastic tire choices. I've had Conti DWS06+ and thy're my favorite tires. Another choice is the Bridgestone RE 980AS tires, which I had on my Jaguar XFR, and LOVED. The Conti's will be a little quieter for you than the 980's, but both are fantastic choices. And the Michelin's are fantastic too, but a little pricier. In any event, you have tons of choices for that tire size and load rating, many that will offer more comfort and less noise. And if you go up to 20's, you can get tires with foam or other technology to further reduce road noise.
Since I will rarely be driving on highways over the next year, I am going to push this issue both with BMW and Yokohama. I want to see what they may offer as a solution. In and around the little bubble of South Coastal Orange County where I primarily hang out, the car is a joy to drive, so it’s not like I’m suffering with it.
This is the end of Stream and the i7 lol, he's recruiting people to file complaints against BMW and Yokohama on the BMW forum...
Just buy new tires Stream, you bought new tires for all your S Classes and tires and wheels and CCBs for your SL, why is buying new tires not a solution to this?
This is the end of Stream and the i7 lol, he's recruiting people to file complaints against BMW and Yokohama on the BMW forum...
Just buy new tires Stream, you bought new tires for all your S Classes and tires and wheels and CCBs for your SL, why is buying new tires not a solution to this?
There goes BMW's recent climb in JD Power rankings. LOL.
At least with some other brands, OEM tires are notoriously bad. I remember my first Tesla set lasting like 14k miles. They were an expensive tire (Michelin Primacy), but the OEM version had less tread. Maybe it was softer too, who knows. The next set lasted much longer.
The fact that people actually use the OEM stock runflats on Mercedes is a testament to the engineering of the car. I've never owned a car where tire choice wasn't critical for good ride/nvh.
No doubt the entire industry has gone through a major cheapification. One would think solid high quality buttons would be one a critical detail, but even on 100k+ cars you find parts bin nonsense. I have original NES and SNES game consoles in my closet that have better quality touch points.
At least with some other brands, OEM tires are notoriously bad. I remember my first Tesla set lasting like 14k miles. They were an expensive tire (Michelin Primacy), but the OEM version had less tread. Maybe it was softer too, who knows. The next set lasted much longer.
The fact that people actually use the OEM stock runflats on Mercedes is a testament to the engineering of the car. I've never owned a car where tire choice wasn't critical for good ride/nvh.
No doubt the entire industry has gone through a major cheapification. One would think solid high quality buttons would be one a critical detail, but even on 100k+ cars you find parts bin nonsense. I have original NES and SNES game consoles in my closet that have better quality touch points.
I’m curious if the S63 (or i7 M70) also comes with similar tires or (cheapification). My guess is that they come with a better tire.
Unlike the M850 or M8, my B8 Alpina comes with special non-runflat tires specially engineered for the car (for the B8). These tires have foam inserts with specific geometry, different threads, and an ALP stamp printed on the tire outside wall. More photos and readings below or here:https://www.alpina-automobiles.com/e...rtrait-heinle/ Let’s not forget that Streamliner has also opted for the smallest wheel sizes (standard), which some brands interpret as (cheapification). However, I know this was not Streamliner’s intention when choosing a standard small wheel size. I doubt the smaller wheel size and the 60i would receive the same engineering attention as the larger wheels specifically the size that comes on the M70 (just my guess). Again, curious to know if Mbenz does the same for the AMG lineup.
The point is: You can’t keep the standard or regular series factory tire (especially when it’s runflat) that was randomly thrown at it by the manufacturer because it fits its, and then expect good results. Never liked any of the factory tires on any of my german cars.
The Hankooks were a surprisingly decent stock tire. They were very quiet, even perhaps slightly quieter than the Pirelli P7 A/S 3 tires I replaced them with. Ride quality though is way better with the Pirellis.
BUT, a $140k S Class should have shipped with better tires than Hankooks, decent or not. They're known as a lower cost off brand tire and Mercedes should have done better.
I tried looking up tires for the i7 and there were several listed as OEM on Tirerack. One set is $450 for the front and $550 for the rear, individual tires.. holy moly.
I wonder what the tire in question is. Being an EV it could be overly efficiency biased. Also agree that tires are kinda the price of a car, but I try to at least run them down to my sun state change depth of 4/32.
Speaking of BMW and Hankook, our MINI SE had OEM Hankooks and I actually loved them. You could never get the wheels to chirp. It was so smooth. It currently has a set of Cross Climate 2 and Pilot Sport AS as it lives in an area with snow. Better tires in different respects, but I do miss the stealthiness of those Hankooks.
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2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
It is in the upper 50’s today, about as cold as it ever gets here during daytime hours. My I7 seems to know when we need a bit of warmth, as the heated seats, steering wheel, etc. switch on automatically, to a midrange level. I will once again mention the truly magnificent seats, which are the most comfortable I have ever experienced in any vehicle. The I7 is endearing itself to me more each day. There are W223’s, G Wagens, Taycans, 911’s & Range Rovers everywhere you look here, so again, it is perfectly “ME” to have something quite unique and distinctive looking.
It is in the upper 50’s today, about as cold as it ever gets here during daytime hours. My I7 seems to know when we need a bit of warmth, as the heated seats, steering wheel, etc. switch on automatically, to a midrange level. I will once again mention the truly magnificent seats, which are the most comfortable I have ever experienced in any vehicle. The I7 is endearing itself to me more each day. There are W223’s, G Wagens, Taycans, 911’s & Range Rovers everywhere you look here, so again, it is perfectly “ME” to have something quite unique and distinctive looking.
Guess that is the benefit of having Rolls-Royce under the company, they took some notes from the ultra luxury brand with the seats, or the influence came from them.
In my BMW's you can set the seats, steering wheel etc. each to come on at present outdoor temperatures. It works for both front seats independently. This time of the year around here it's appreciated.
Yeah I'm surprised Mercedes doesn't turn the heated seats and wheel on automatically when its cold, our Chrysler Pacifica does.
not only that, in all my BMW’s since ID7 in 2019+ I can set the heating/cooling temperature thresholds as a rule (including seats ventilation) to be turned automatically below/above those temp limits. With remote engine start, the seats, steering and cabin are all at the right temp. I just don’t understand why Mbenz has to be an ultimate luxury car yet stupid!!!! I love our Benz but it’s stupid and feels outdated technologically compared to any BMW I owned in the past 5 years. Something is wrong when 2025 Benz cars can’t even compete with 2019 BMW cars from a tech and software prospective
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…… Or no, @Streamliner? Lol just kidding
