E Active Body- Worth it on a Maybach?
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E Active Body- Worth it on a Maybach?
Hello friends Im back in the market for another S class to replace my 2021 580.
Considering a 2024 Maybach….one I was looking at has E active body control.
had Magic body on my first W222 which I loved (more for the ABC suspension); is the new system better/comparable/worse?
Looking at a few Maybachs but the one with active body has 10k more miles..worth it?
Considering a 2024 Maybach….one I was looking at has E active body control.
had Magic body on my first W222 which I loved (more for the ABC suspension); is the new system better/comparable/worse?
Looking at a few Maybachs but the one with active body has 10k more miles..worth it?
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I would ask @Streamliner . Based on his experience alone I would never buy an S Class with eABC.
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Hello friends Im back in the market for another S class to replace my 2021 580.
Considering a 2024 Maybach….one I was looking at has E active body control.
had Magic body on my first W222 which I loved (more for the ABC suspension); is the new system better/comparable/worse?
Looking at a few Maybachs but the one with active body has 10k more miles..worth it?
Considering a 2024 Maybach….one I was looking at has E active body control.
had Magic body on my first W222 which I loved (more for the ABC suspension); is the new system better/comparable/worse?
Looking at a few Maybachs but the one with active body has 10k more miles..worth it?
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Why was it horrible? Ride quality or defective?
i also got a new 25 740i to replace a 2023 760 and the ride is 10/10. The reduced weight on the 7 series makes a big difference and reduction in power is almost negligible vs comfort.
I was hoping the eABC would improve the S ride…
i also got a new 25 740i to replace a 2023 760 and the ride is 10/10. The reduced weight on the 7 series makes a big difference and reduction in power is almost negligible vs comfort.
I was hoping the eABC would improve the S ride…
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2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Why was it horrible? Ride quality or defective?
i also got a new 25 740i to replace a 2023 760 and the ride is 10/10. The reduced weight on the 7 series makes a big difference and reduction in power is almost negligible vs comfort.
I was hoping the eABC would improve the S ride…
i also got a new 25 740i to replace a 2023 760 and the ride is 10/10. The reduced weight on the 7 series makes a big difference and reduction in power is almost negligible vs comfort.
I was hoping the eABC would improve the S ride…
My 2022 S580 had 19” wheels (the smallest diameter available) and I tried both Bridgestone & Continental non-run flat tires. The ride quality was great—on PERFECT road surfaces, ONLY. Whenever I would hit a bump, instead of making the bump virtually disappear as with Magic Body Control, with EABC, it felt as though each wheel reacted multiple times, INDIVIDUALLY, giving the ride a “nervous” feeling. I am extremely picky about ride quality and the EABC absolutely drove me nuts.
When MBUSA bought the S580 back, I needed a car and the dealer had just taken in a fairly plain 2020 S560 without MBC and with 19” wheels. It only had 8800 miles on it, so I bought it. I MUCH preferred driving that car than the EABC car.
I ordered my 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60 with 19” wheels and the Autobahn Pkg. The car drives beautifully, WAY better than the S580, but not nearly like the W222’s with MBC. Magic Body Control was a masterpiece of engineering, so of course, MB dropped it. They should reengineer MBC to work with 4-Matic, but I doubt they ever will. After 17 brand new MB’s, I doubt that I will ever go back, as I have lost all faith in the brand.
A photo of one of my beloved S560’s.
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Why was it horrible? Ride quality or defective?
i also got a new 25 740i to replace a 2023 760 and the ride is 10/10. The reduced weight on the 7 series makes a big difference and reduction in power is almost negligible vs comfort.
I was hoping the eABC would improve the S ride…
i also got a new 25 740i to replace a 2023 760 and the ride is 10/10. The reduced weight on the 7 series makes a big difference and reduction in power is almost negligible vs comfort.
I was hoping the eABC would improve the S ride…
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Anyways so I got curious, so I looked it up, the previous one is a turbocharged V8, the new one is an inline-6 I assume it has the mild hybrid which makes the transition smoother (at least on low speed accelerations with the help of electric boost).
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The new 7 series (760) is a v8 twin turbo. HEAVY engine and you feel it. The 740 is a inline 6. Much smoother, lighter, agile. The 760 feels very front heavy and clunky in stop/go NYC traffic. The same V8 engine is in the new Range Rover P530, and it got bad reviews because of the weight distribution. I also got the 6 cylinder LWB Range Rover and while its ok, it feels slightly underpowered. The 6 cylinder in the BMW is fantastic.
I'm not a fan of the 4.0 in the S580 either, its sort of clunky too. Nevertheless, have a limo business so I always need an S class in fleet, which is why I'm considering a Maybach CPO 2024 instead of a new 2025 or 2026 S-class. $130k vs $150k or so for a CPO low mileage Maybach 580....
The eABC seems interesting but I'm getting the impression now its not like Magic Body Control; that its a different system entirely? The Maybach I'm looking at has it as an option....
https://www.mbmanhattan.com/inventor...x7gb1ra258188/
I'm not a fan of the 4.0 in the S580 either, its sort of clunky too. Nevertheless, have a limo business so I always need an S class in fleet, which is why I'm considering a Maybach CPO 2024 instead of a new 2025 or 2026 S-class. $130k vs $150k or so for a CPO low mileage Maybach 580....
The eABC seems interesting but I'm getting the impression now its not like Magic Body Control; that its a different system entirely? The Maybach I'm looking at has it as an option....
https://www.mbmanhattan.com/inventor...x7gb1ra258188/
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The new 7 series (760) is a v8 twin turbo. HEAVY engine and you feel it. The 740 is a inline 6. Much smoother, lighter, agile. The 760 feels very front heavy and clunky in stop/go NYC traffic. The same V8 engine is in the new Range Rover P530, and it got bad reviews because of the weight distribution. I also got the 6 cylinder LWB Range Rover and while its ok, it feels slightly underpowered. The 6 cylinder in the BMW is fantastic.
I'm not a fan of the 4.0 in the S580 either, its sort of clunky too. Nevertheless, have a limo business so I always need an S class in fleet, which is why I'm considering a Maybach CPO 2024 instead of a new 2025 or 2026 S-class. $130k vs $150k or so for a CPO low mileage Maybach 580....
The eABC seems interesting but I'm getting the impression now its not like Magic Body Control; that its a different system entirely? The Maybach I'm looking at has it as an option....
https://www.mbmanhattan.com/inventor...x7gb1ra258188/
I'm not a fan of the 4.0 in the S580 either, its sort of clunky too. Nevertheless, have a limo business so I always need an S class in fleet, which is why I'm considering a Maybach CPO 2024 instead of a new 2025 or 2026 S-class. $130k vs $150k or so for a CPO low mileage Maybach 580....
The eABC seems interesting but I'm getting the impression now its not like Magic Body Control; that its a different system entirely? The Maybach I'm looking at has it as an option....
https://www.mbmanhattan.com/inventor...x7gb1ra258188/
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Love the 4.0 in my S580. I test drove the S500 and made it 2 blocks and turned right around.
As for the Range Rover, have you driven the PHEV RR? I wonder if that would solve the power issue.
I haven’t driven a 740 but the B58 is a great engine. I have driven many other BMWs with that engine.
As for the Range Rover, have you driven the PHEV RR? I wonder if that would solve the power issue.
I haven’t driven a 740 but the B58 is a great engine. I have driven many other BMWs with that engine.
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Love the 4.0 in my S580. I test drove the S500 and made it 2 blocks and turned right around.
As for the Range Rover, have you driven the PHEV RR? I wonder if that would solve the power issue.
I haven’t driven a 740 but the B58 is a great engine. I have driven many other BMWs with that engine.
As for the Range Rover, have you driven the PHEV RR? I wonder if that would solve the power issue.
I haven’t driven a 740 but the B58 is a great engine. I have driven many other BMWs with that engine.
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I see.
PHEV is good for commuting if the distance we have to go is within the range distance (save for the range decrease during winter) and never have to start the engine. The gas will eventually go bad though. Plus you have the weight of the motor when using the ICE and the weight of the ICE when using the motor.
PHEV is good for commuting if the distance we have to go is within the range distance (save for the range decrease during winter) and never have to start the engine. The gas will eventually go bad though. Plus you have the weight of the motor when using the ICE and the weight of the ICE when using the motor.
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Things is gasoline does expire after a while https://rislone.com/blog/fuel-system...soline-go-bad/ (3-4 months for ethanol), I mean even if the car cycles it, it does expire if say you don't fill it up for 3-4 months. The lifespan doesn't start when you fill it up, that countdown happens after the refinery and continues you count during transportation and to the final gas station. I guess for those who buy a PHEV mainly for the electric aspect and don't happen to use the ICE engine often (and I mean often as in every 3? months) then might want to add a stabilizer in.
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True, even if you daily commute and lets say the range is 200(?) miles and back and forth is only 100 miles, eventually on the weekend you might want to go on a road trip or so which requires fueling up.
