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Old Jun 7, 2025 | 10:12 PM
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I am okay with polarizing front designs.
What I hate is the ugly side profile.
That’s why I was okay with the G80/82 M3/4, but don’t like the new 7.
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Old Jun 7, 2025 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nearwater4me
I am okay with polarizing front designs.
What I hate is the ugly side profile.
That’s why I was okay with the G80/82 M3/4, but don’t like the new 7.
Fair to say and that proved we are all different I personally like the side profile more than the front or back of the new 7.
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Old Jun 7, 2025 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crabman
Black helps with the 7 series, or in my opinion, most new BMWs.
It looks good on MB too especially S-Class, when clean : )
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Old Jun 7, 2025 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MB2timer
So much in life is upside down like that. When you are young and have the vitality, the exuberance and energy to have a family, and drive a sports car, you don’t have any money.
But maybe it’s just as well, at least for the sports car, because your young family wouldn’t appreciate it so much if, like the lack of experience and wisdom of youth, you wrap your sports car around a tree. When you get to an age where you rationally decide you shouldn’t be driving a sports car anymore, you have attained a perfect level of judgment, experience, and finances to drive one. But the strength, flexibility, vision, and slowed reflexes bring a screeching halt to that type of driving enjoyment.
Well said.
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Old Jun 7, 2025 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nearwater4me
I've had my share of 'sports' cars in the past and every single one of 'em were with a manual transmission.
Once you've had the BMW M cars then the only way to 'upgrade' to another manual transmission sports car is to move to a Porsche.
I was looking for an allocation for the 992.2 Carrera T and when the dealer asked for $10K ADM on top of the already crazy expensive MSRP for a practically 'base' Carrera, I couldn't justify it.
I guess it was time to move on from the sports cars scene. For a while at least.

I knew already that I preferred GT cars with plenty of creature comforts, so moving to the other side of the spectrum with the S was not a risky move at all.
Although I didn't get more than 2 hours of driving time in it, I'm really enjoying my S580.
Can't wait to really start driving it after I get it back from the PPF shop.
Obviously I should not compare a porsche to a miata but here we are, I want to say it is fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow, forgot who said it but it is true, miata comes in manual form and you can have a lot of fun (different types of fun) while still going the speed limit.
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Old Jun 7, 2025 | 11:16 PM
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And what makes it "the best car in the world" isn't any one thing, its the whole package. Its elegant and prestigious without being flashy or garish, it rides great and is super comfortable while also still being engaging to drive. When you go and look at other cars, they may wow you in one way but then they fall short in another way and when you come back to the S Class its just the best overall package.

Like the 7 Series, it has a better overall interior, but the refinement isn't quite there in the ride and its so garish looking and draws so much attention. Rolls Royces are so flashy and while they ride better and obviously are more comfortable they're just so out there that they're not comfortable to drive in an ordinary everyday way, Bentleys are the same way. Something like a Range Rover is incredibly comfortable and capable and the form factor lets you go a lot of places, but they too are more showy and ostentatious. Cars like the Audi A8 and Lexus LS and Genesis G90 just feel like off brand concepts while the S Class feels like the "real deal".

It really is just a car that I feel comfortable pulling up to a 5 star hotel in, yet also pulling up to my company picnic around my employees and it doesn't feel out of place either place. And when driving it there really isn't another car that I would rather be driving. When I drove my LSs as much as I loved them I always really wanted an S Class, but now I really drive what I want to drive and its a good feeling.
Well said thumbs up!
I guess the best of both worlds in that case is Maybach, with the Maybach badges removed for those who want an even improved experience than the regular S-Class yet want to be more understated but honestly, with the Maybach badges, it is still very understated, only those who know will know. Unlike obviously Rolls-Royce as you mentioned very flashy.
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Old Jun 7, 2025 | 11:19 PM
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and no, I am not talking about the SL Maybach with the monogram series and the unnecessary flash.
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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 12:11 AM
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Well said thumbs up!
I guess the best of both worlds in that case is Maybach, with the Maybach badges removed for those who want an even improved experience than the regular S-Class yet want to be more understated but honestly, with the Maybach badges, it is still very understated, only those who know will know. Unlike obviously Rolls-Royce as you mentioned very flashy.
Maybachs are too flashy, IMO. Too much chrome, too blingy.
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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Maybachs are too flashy, IMO. Too much chrome, too blingy.
Maybe perhaps without the V12, the front bumper part won't have that much chrome.
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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 12:48 AM
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I mean, the V12 is part of the Maybach experience, but good to have the option of going with the base V8.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Maybe perhaps without the V12, the front bumper part won't have that much chrome.
I just don't see the point. Its basically the same car, just longer with a higher spec interior, since I drive by myself it would just be wasted. I would rather just have a really high spec S580, something with the white Manufaktur interior maybe

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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
I just don't see the point. Its basically the same car, just longer with a higher spec interior, since I drive by myself it would just be wasted. I would rather just have a really high spec S580, something with the white Manufaktur interior maybe
Actually, I heard it does ride better (with the right options), there is also a Maybach drive mode which I guess custom coding can always code it in. Will be interesting what ride comfort differences like suspension specifically on the Maybach are.
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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Actually, I heard it does ride better (with the right options), there is also a Maybach drive mode which I guess custom coding can always code it in. Will be interesting what ride comfort differences like suspension specifically on the Maybach are.
The longer wheelbase will help the ride, but the car rides incredibly well as it is.
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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 10:57 AM
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I think the S580 is the sweet spot. If I were to go Maybach I would just step up and go back to Bentley or get the Roller (only car on my bucket list I haven’t had!).
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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 01:09 PM
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I think the S580 is the sweet spot. If I were to go Maybach I would just step up and go back to Bentley or get the Roller (only car on my bucket list I haven’t had!).
I sniffed around that tree a little bit. You're talking something like 5ish a month, 60ish going in. Coudn't get my head around that; and it would have crimped my traveling. I love cars, no question, it's always been my vice. But there are limits, and the ol deathbed paradigm comes into play: It probably won't be cars, bathroom remodels, and the like, flashing before my eyes. But my travels, yeah, I've seen and done some memorable things. In any event, in my mind, if it's making you cut back to have something, you can't afford it.

There is also the ostentation of it; I like to fly under the radar, and that ain't it. Even if I had more ching, I think it would still be problematic for me. Or maybe... That's just a more palatable rationalization than straight-up saying it was too expensive.
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I sniffed around that tree a little bit. You're talking something like 5ish a month, 60ish going in. Coudn't get my head around that; and it would have crimped my traveling. I love cars, no question, it's always been my vice. But there are limits, and the ol deathbed paradigm comes into play: It probably won't be cars, bathroom remodels, and the like, flashing before my eyes. But my travels, yeah, I've seen and done some memorable things. In any event, in my mind, if it's making you cut back to have something, you can't afford it.

There is also the ostentation of it; I like to fly under the radar, and that ain't it. Even if I had more ching, I think it would still be problematic for me. Or maybe... That's just a more palatable rationalization than straight-up saying it was too expensive.
My opinion too, its just so much money and I don't really see the point when I'm happy with this price point.
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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
The longer wheelbase will help the ride, but the car rides incredibly well as it is.
I am curious how the two compares just by having Maybach mode enabled on the non-Maybach version through custom coding.
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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba1
I think the S580 is the sweet spot. If I were to go Maybach I would just step up and go back to Bentley or get the Roller (only car on my bucket list I haven’t had!).
Too flashy for some though... I guess.

There has to be a reason why people buy Maybachs, do we know the specifics? If the comfort increase is minimal why does that still sell? I seen them a lot in Toronto, well downtown though. no I am not saying they buy it due to the V12 given that majority of Maybachs I see here is not the V12 version.

Obviously Rolls-Royce can be double the price but not Bentley. So what is the reason they buy Maybachs?

Is it really just about that it is less flashy than Rolls-Royce or Bentley? Other than obvious cost savings? I mean, the W223 S-Class is fine as it is, as mentioned.

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People buy them because they want the flashier car
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Old Jun 8, 2025 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
People buy them because they want the flashier car
It can be very understated though. I mean especially the V8 models without the chrome in the front as the S 680, they fly under the radar here. I only really notice it was a Maybach because there was a badge on the C pillar if I don't look at the rear of it that says "Maybach" they did not option monoblocks forgot what they have but I think they were available on the regular W223 S-Class well. Although the Maybach does have the chrome strip leading to the hood star.

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It can be very understated though. I mean especially the V8 models without the chrome in the front as the S 680, they fly under the radar here. I only really notice it was a Maybach because there was a badge on the C pillar if I don't look at the rear of it that says "Maybach" they did not option monoblocks forgot what they have but I think they were available on the regular W223 S-Class well. Although the Maybach does have the chrome strip leading to the hood star.
They're not as understated as a regular S Class.

No Maybach comes on wheels you can get on the regular S Class. People make fake Maybachs all the time, its probable thats what it was. I saw a fake one the other day, it was a regular AMG line W223 with the Maybach grille and the wheels and logos.
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Originally Posted by SW20S
They're not as understated as a regular S Class.

No Maybach comes on wheels you can get on the regular S Class. People make fake Maybachs all the time, its probable thats what it was. I saw a fake one the other day, it was a regular AMG line W223 with the Maybach grille and the wheels and logos.

I see, either that or they simply had non Maybach winter wheels, well in my case at least.
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I may be in the minority here, but I like my S Class. Is it perfect? God no. Sometimes the suspension will be bone-jarring hard for no reason and the transmission is absolute trash and can’t shift smoothly if its life depended on it, but I’m enjoying my time driving it. Yes, it has electrical glitches and rattles, but man the base stereo is epic and the overall driving experience is serene. And it just looks good, at least to me. I’m looking forward to getting another one, so long as the stupid star lights don’t look like cheap trash.
That’s great and I’m very happy for you. Anyone of us paying those big, luxury sedan prices should really like their cars. Enjoy it in good health!
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I see, either that or they simply had non Maybach winter wheels, well in my case at least.
My guess is it was a fake...
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My guess is it was a fake...
I see, anyways I like this thread.
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