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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 03:31 PM
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With the advanced features like 30+ inch TV, auto open/close doors, fancier ambient lighting, etc., it's understandable that some people will choose functions over form.
I've seen reviews saying the driving dynamics on the new 7er is very good as well.

If one could choose to ignore the hideous front-end, it's a very nice executive sedan with lots of road presence.
Yeah, that’s sort of me, but I did not go for the big screen or any rear seat options, as the rear seat is rarely occupied. Otherwise, I got most all of the options, including the Full Marino Leather, B&W Diamond Audio and the Autobahn Pkg. I’m not thrilled with the exterior styling, but I don’t hate it. In the “Luxury” trim that I have, in simple Space Silver, my car is extremely unique, as the vast majority go for the “M-Sport” trim and a black exterior.



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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 03:43 PM
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IMHO, not to overstate it but wow is the new 7 series hideous looking. A face only a mother could love. Sorry, stream the 7 looks just don’t grow on me no matter how many times I try. I’m sure it’s a great drive and I hope you’re enjoying it.
I think they look great personally. My neighbor has a black one I see all the time.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 05:17 PM
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I've gotten used to the in-your-face, aggressive front end of the recent BMWs.
When the LCI X7s implemented the split DRL-headlights, I thought it looked aggressive and unique, and not necessarily in a bad way.
It was a love or hate design that was accepted by a smaller demographic compared to the MB's universally favored design language.
Like Lexus, BMW chose to go with a more polarizing design since Bangle, followed by Van Hooydonk's great job revising the designs to appear more mainstream and contemporary.

I guess it's a matter of preference.
I personally think the face was accepted by the SUV demographics (X7) but not so much with the luxury sedan crowd (i7, 7er). - actual sales might say differently, and I have no sales data.
Just like the VW Toureg vs. Phaeton where one was a smash hit and the other was a flop.


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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nearwater4me
With the advanced features like 30+ inch TV, auto open/close doors, fancier ambient lighting, etc., it's understandable that some people will choose functions over form.
I've seen reviews saying the driving dynamics on the new 7er is very good as well.

If one could choose to ignore the hideous front-end, it's a very nice executive sedan with lots of road presence.
It is very comfortable too, forum member streamliner also said the massage is better than the ones in the S-Class. Looks is obviously subjective but in person it wasn't too bad to me, the bmw has less incentives than the S-Class in my area so they must really like the bmw over the S-Class (for some reason, maybe like the gadgets you mentioned).
You never know, maybe people really want to stand out with the 7 series (in my area) at least, the S-Class is too subtle (which is a good thing).
My opinion though, you can't go wrong with either brands, they both have their strengths and weaknesses.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nearwater4me
I've gotten used to the in-your-face, aggressive front end of the recent BMWs.
When the LCI X7s implemented the split DRL-headlights, I thought it looked aggressive and unique, and not necessarily in a bad way.
It was a love or hate design that was accepted by a smaller demographic compared to the MB's universally favored design language.
Like Lexus, BMW chose to go with a more polarizing design since Bangle, followed by Van Hooydonk's great job revising the designs to appear more mainstream and contemporary.

I guess it's a matter of preference.
I personally think the face was accepted by the SUV demographics (X7) but not so much with the luxury sedan crowd (i7, 7er). - actual sales might say differently, and I have no sales data.
Just like the VW Toureg vs. Phaeton where one was a smash hit and the other was a flop.
The split headlight idea clearly was taken from the Hyundai Kona, or maybe the Jeep, or maybe someone have it first but those are the two that came to mind.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
I think they look great personally. My neighbor has a black one I see all the time.
The colour probably also made a difference.
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
Yeah, that’s sort of me, but I did not go for the big screen or any rear seat options, as the rear seat is rarely occupied. Otherwise, I got most all of the options, including the Full Marino Leather, B&W Diamond Audio and the Autobahn Pkg. I’m not thrilled with the exterior styling, but I don’t hate it. In the “Luxury” trim that I have, in simple Space Silver, my car is extremely unique, as the vast majority go for the “M-Sport” trim and a black exterior.


Was it because you can't option the luxury trim on the ICE version hence why it is rare? Or was it another country's limitation?
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Old Jul 7, 2025 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nearwater4me
I've gotten used to the in-your-face, aggressive front end of the recent BMWs.
When the LCI X7s implemented the split DRL-headlights, I thought it looked aggressive and unique, and not necessarily in a bad way.
It was a love or hate design that was accepted by a smaller demographic compared to the MB's universally favored design language.
Like Lexus, BMW chose to go with a more polarizing design since Bangle, followed by Van Hooydonk's great job revising the designs to appear more mainstream and contemporary.

I guess it's a matter of preference.
I personally think the face was accepted by the SUV demographics (X7) but not so much with the luxury sedan crowd (i7, 7er). - actual sales might say differently, and I have no sales data.
Just like the VW Toureg vs. Phaeton where one was a smash hit and the other was a flop.
This generation 7 series is the only one that has ever outsold the S Class. In real life peoples reactions to the styling is much more positive.

Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Was it because you can't option the luxury trim on the ICE version hence why it is rare? Or was it another country's limitation?
The luxury trim is only available on the EV.

I originally only warmed to the luxury trim, but now I think the M Sport is better looking…in darker colors.
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
This generation 7 series is the only one that has ever outsold the S Class. In real life peoples reactions to the styling is much more positive.



The luxury trim is only available on the EV.
I see so memory served me right, thanks for confirming, is that only true for North America though, can you get luxury trim in Europe on the ICE?

On the other hand, if people really bought the bmw because of the flashy-ness (talking specifically my area for example), then the facelift S-Class with the star headlights and the star taillights and the star of the show might attract those specific buyers back to MB.
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 04:46 PM
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I believe thats right, only an issue is the US.
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Old Jul 9, 2025 | 11:20 AM
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I believe thats right, only an issue is the US.
and your fellow friend, the great white north....
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Old Jul 15, 2025 | 09:21 AM
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Parts were cheap and the DIY was fun!
Apparently the umbrella is a little long for the trunk…
Will have to get a folding one lol







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Old Jul 15, 2025 | 10:28 AM
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Cool! I have always wanted that!
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Old Jul 15, 2025 | 10:31 AM
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Cool! I have always wanted that!
It's only $38 dollars for parts and about 30min to install!
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Old Jul 15, 2025 | 10:32 AM
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Old Jul 15, 2025 | 10:40 AM
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I'm in!


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Old Jul 15, 2025 | 10:54 AM
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Love it, thank you!
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Old Jul 15, 2025 | 02:49 PM
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I like that gas cap. If it was billet, I would get one immediately. I imagine myself smiling every time I open the cover to refuel.
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Look into retrofitting the comfort box as well : )
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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 12:31 AM
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Look into retrofitting the comfort box as well : )
Oh, I have already done that
The S580 I found locally didn’t come with it from the factory so I bought one from eBay and had it installed within the couple of weeks into ownership.



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Old Jul 16, 2025 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nearwater4me
Oh, I have already done that
The S580 I found locally didn’t come with it from the factory so I bought one from eBay and had it installed within the couple of weeks into ownership.


Well done!
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I actually don’t care for the comfort box. I had it in my S560 and I found it got in the way more than it was useful. My S580 has two grocery bag hooks, I like them better.

Your pull handle for your trunk floor isn’t chrome?
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I actually don’t care for the comfort box. I had it in my S560 and I found it got in the way more than it was useful. My S580 has two grocery bag hooks, I like them better.
Your pull handle for your trunk floor isn’t chrome?
I can see that happening when loading check-in luggages in the trunk but with golf bags, I didn't have any problem.
I also like the fact that it can hold on to fragile items more securely.
The thing sure is heavy though!

Yeah, as soon as I took delivery, I noticed my floor handle is all cheap matte black plastic.
I was eyeing the chrome handle on Amazon. Again, little things
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That’s weird! I would take it to the dealer and tell them it’s the wrong trunk floor. The 500 has a plastic handle.
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Hmm... are you sure it didn't change for MY25?
Lots of times manufacturers implement cost-cutting measures every MY.
I was assuming it was one of those.
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