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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 01:45 AM
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Talking 2009 S65 Amg

Guys I've a few questions about the 09' models.

1.) When is the earliest , one can get a 2009 S65?
2.) If I want a specific designo color (Mystic white with piano/white interior) does this greatly delay my build time?
3.) Should I shoot for an 08' S65 instead? I was hoping that the 09's would change the cross stitching back to a more "reasonable" look.
4.) Any other options?

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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Trust me, if your buying an S65 designo you can bug the right people to make it the exact way you want it.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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It's not the building specifics that I am worried about. It's the TIMING - Meaning I would the newest model even if it means waiting a few months. If a 2009 S65 Designo Mystic White edition will not come into my hands until SEPT or NOV!!!

A bit confused as to which year I should shoot for....08 or 09....Seriously.
Does anyone know how many of these (color combo's) were produced in 2007 and 2008? Mystic white with porcelin and piano black wood interior?

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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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check dealer inventory, they can search nationwide... S65s are not in demand. If you order one expect to pay more.

Designo cars typically can take a month longer than a normal order.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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MB dealers don't seem to know when MY09 S65s are coming out....

But didn't '08 S65 arrive in US in July07 or so?

'09 SL63/65 will prob be in US in Spr08....so added push to synch MYs by early Summ08....

And another unknown is....when is facelifted/mid-cycle refreshed S-Class arriving? Sales have already been dropping quickly....launched in US in ?Feb06....

Unfortunately, not clear that MB realizes most buyers view this 65 quilted leather crap as tacky....so who knows if they will solve error in MY09???
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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Sales have been dropping quickly???? Nothing more than normal for a car that has been on the market for almost 2 years this or next month.

Facelift won't come until 2010 model year.

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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Facelift won't come until 2010 model year.

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Is this info from mbusa??
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Thanks for the replies. A fletcher jones S65 Designo white on white was supposedly listed for 50k OVER msrp. Wacky!

I wish we had more information on when and how to order/delivery time/new options/upgrades etc etc.

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CoogiMan
A fletcher jones S65 Designo white on white was supposedly listed for 50k OVER msrp.
Gee, I don't know what these guys from so-called 'upgraded' dealerships are smoking...

They either think their customers are just plain stupid or they want to give a potential buyer a feeling that if he buys the car at MSRP or even a few grand more, he might have made THE deal of his life (wow, I got $50K off...).

BTW, a designo S65 plus $50K comes very close to the price of the CL65 Anniversary Edition...
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Gee, I don't know what these guys from so-called 'upgraded' dealerships are smoking...

They either think their customers are just plain stupid or they want to give a potential buyer a feeling that if he buys the car at MSRP or even a few grand more, he might have made THE deal of his life (wow, I got $50K off...).

BTW, a designo S65 plus $50K comes very close to the price of the CL65 Anniversary Edition...

............Part of the problem is that some of us help create the stereotype. Some make themselves feel better by buying into the BS. Paying above MSRP for supposedly limited production this and that. The dealers must really think we are idiots.

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
............Part of the problem is that some of us help create the stereotype. Some make themselves feel better by buying into the BS. Paying above MSRP for supposedly limited production this and that. The dealers must really think we are idiots.

Ted
We agree on something else Ted, shocking...lol. I too have never seen the point of paying above sticker on anything, except maybe something that will be a one-off like a Enzo or something and even cars of that ilk sometime don't sell out, witness the Porsche Carrera GT.

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojans1
Facelift won't come until 2010 model year.

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Is this info from mbusa??[/QUOTE]

Nope, just going by typical MB practice. They almost always facelift a 7-year production run model in the 3 or 4th year. It will be timed to fit in with the new E/CLK just like in 03, this way all of them get any engine updates at the same time. By then MB should have come around to direct injection for the 5.5L V8. You know it won't be 2009 model year because you'd see prototypes and other indications that a change is coming. The 09' models arrive in July-August. MB believe it or not is fairly predictable with facelifts.

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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CoogiMan
Thanks for the replies. A fletcher jones S65 Designo white on white was supposedly listed for 50k OVER msrp. Wacky!

I wish we had more information on when and how to order/delivery time/new options/upgrades etc etc.

Coogi
$50k over MSRP is just plain stealing . I visited the dealership a couple of times last year to test drive the new E63 and they tried to sell me a used E63 (2k miles) for $101k while the brand new ones were selling for $92k
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Another one said it just right - Those who choose to pay OVER what they should be paying is directly effecting the prices that they are asking.

This is something that happened to the Barrett Jackson Auto Auction a few years ago. Some very wealthy individuals decided that they wanted to blow a few hundred grand on cars that are actually only worth (70-80k) and thus raising the prices for all the following years.

I guess cars are only worth what you are willing to pay for them.....

PS- On another note - I called the dealership to get a quote for a windshield replacement.... Conversation goes like this:

MB- Hello MBenz service department, how can I help you?
ME- Hi! I would like to get a quote and schedule a time to replace my windshield.
MB - What model car do you own sir?
ME- S65 AMG
MB - IS that a mercedes benz?
ME - Long pause......................Um. Yes.....Yes it is.

WoW!!!

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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CoogiMan
Another one said it just right - Those who choose to pay OVER what they should be paying is directly effecting the prices that they are asking.

This is something that happened to the Barrett Jackson Auto Auction a few years ago. Some very wealthy individuals decided that they wanted to blow a few hundred grand on cars that are actually only worth (70-80k) and thus raising the prices for all the following years.

I guess cars are only worth what you are willing to pay for them.....

PS- On another note - I called the dealership to get a quote for a windshield replacement.... Conversation goes like this:

MB- Hello MBenz service department, how can I help you?
ME- Hi! I would like to get a quote and schedule a time to replace my windshield.
MB - What model car do you own sir?
ME- S65 AMG
MB - IS that a mercedes benz?
ME - Long pause......................Um. Yes.....Yes it is.

WoW!!!

Are you serious? That's crazy........ They don't even know their own models?

I would've changed the very last response to this:

ME - Long pause.......................Um. No..... No it's not. Thank you. Goodbye.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CoogiMan
Another one said it just right - Those who choose to pay OVER what they should be paying is directly effecting the prices that they are asking.

This is something that happened to the Barrett Jackson Auto Auction a few years ago. Some very wealthy individuals decided that they wanted to blow a few hundred grand on cars that are actually only worth (70-80k) and thus raising the prices for all the following years.

I guess cars are only worth what you are willing to pay for them.....

PS- On another note - I called the dealership to get a quote for a windshield replacement.... Conversation goes like this:

MB- Hello MBenz service department, how can I help you?
ME- Hi! I would like to get a quote and schedule a time to replace my windshield.
MB - What model car do you own sir?
ME- S65 AMG
MB - IS that a mercedes benz?
ME - Long pause......................Um. Yes.....Yes it is.

WoW!!!


I called Fletcher Jones (The one who has the White on White S65 on eBay) the other day and my phone conversation went something like this...

ME-Hi, I'm calling in regards to the White S65 you have on eBay.

MB-Ok, hold on a minute and let me get you on the phone with an S-Class specialist.

MB-Hi, may I help you?

ME-Yes, I'm calling you in regards to the White S65 on eBay.

MB-Oh, is that the AMG one?

ME-....... sigh....
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Not sure what's so complicated?????

99% of dealers of any brand (of any product) are incompetent.....

In any major mkt, one either has relationships w/the one-two competent dealers/salesguys who offer fair pricing/exemplary svc to repeat custs and/or is referred to these dealers by colleagues who are major repeat custs....

Darwinian selection exists among both dealers and repeat customers in every major mkt....incl LA/BevHills.....
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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yes , dealers sometimes don't know anything at all , i've also had few examples ,and i was shocked , i was interested in slk350 the guy told me it was one of the fastest mercedeses out there right now it has almost 400 hp and it's very very rare................................ in my face lmao , and the other dealer told me that s65 is only twin turbo and there was never a twin turbo s600 , when i was pickin up my ML from service and he was arguing with me he pointed at it he said look biturbo it doesn't say on s600 biturbo lol
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rumor has it the S65 is getting dropped and a twin turbo for the S63 will be available in '10
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 02:42 AM
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rumor has it the S65 is getting dropped and a twin turbo for the S63 will be available in '10
Nope

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/227715-amg-horsepower-wars-over.html
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