I am pretty good at bargaining but I have no idea how much mark up S63's have.

I have been looking for a used S63 / CL63 (2008+) but I cant seem to find exactly what I want. There is a white S63 (2009 new) with MSRP $145K

I probably could get -20K off the price but how much more I can go down? if any.

I have no idea how much AMG mark up is :-) Thanks in advance.

With the new 2010 facelift arriving, you should start at $30k off msrp for a '09

Thank you I didnt realize there were facelifts in the pipeline. They look pretty sweet.