An update, our insurance company has offered this amount now for the totaled car minus our $250 deductible so we get $75826. Now it's only another $178k to get the new one... out of pocket, to get the new S63 including the new taxes, the paint protection film and the 10 year warranty like we have on our current car. Had ;o( We looked at the new Audi S8 with most every options, $87k less than the S63 and no option to get carbon ceramic brakes... the new Lexus LS500 (she finds it ugly), the new BMW 7 series (we both find it hideous), the MB GLS 63, beyond boring looking and super ugly in black on black with the black mono block wheels like we saw at our dealer the other day. It looks like we'll have to find a perfect used one which she really really doesn't want to do, or put a crow bar in our wallet and buy the new MB. The S580 doesn't do it for me.

 

The new AMG S63 E-Performance is a truly amazing machine! But I'm 100% too scared to ever buy one. You see all the problems people have had on the W223 and you couple that with the insane engineering behind the new S63's powertrain and you know it's a maintenance nightmare. MB has taken that car to supercar/hypercar levels as it relates to complexity. I've gotten to know my car fairly well over the last 18 months and I can't imagine how they shoehorned in a 200hp electric motor, 2 speed gearbox, and a 150kw battery. Adding to that, the complexity to use the rear electric motor to drive all 4-wheels; it's is a technological marvel. At the end of the day, it goes 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, mine did it in 3.28 seconds on all-season tires, and it's 6 years old. That 900lb weight penalty means more wear an tear on all chassis components, and added complexity makes it more difficult to service. I'm not against tech, but not sure it's worth spending $178K for. I guess what I'm saying is you made the right decision, even if difficult.

Well, at least they were fair with the numbers. Hard part will be finding a nice replacement. Some people aren't accounting for the 4+ years that S63 sedans weren't available; that's what makes a good one more difficult to find. You went big on options because you planned to keep it for a long time. A lot of the off-lease cars, which I looked through for over a year, we fairly low-optioned. I finally came across a nicely optioned 2018 that the previous owner had for 5+ years; 3 on a lease and the rest from purchasing it after the lease. My assumption from the way it was optioned is that he intended to keep it for a long time from day one, not just because MB didn't offer an S63 when his lease was over. But it's been 18+ months since I found mine so market conditions might have changed. All you need is 1 car, the right one to come along and you're back in happyland!

 

Have to agree with Carlos on this one. I love my 2019 and will probably keep it for as long as I can as I think it is the last of a dying breed of big body V8 benz's that you can still kind of work on. Your call though, the tech and performance is amazing and I would love a battery for tooling around town. MB is pretty proud of this car though at that price point. There has to be some wiggle room on the price. Probably smart to do something longer term now though with regards to a replacement as I suspect prices will probably only go up if half the tariff talk I hear about gets enacted. Not to get political but it is something to think about as you ponder a big decision like this with a foreign made car.
Also, you should be able to get some money back from the warranty on your 18 as it still has another 4 years or so left on the policy if I am not mistaken.

 

So, so sorry to hear about your car!

That looks like Euro Motorcars in Bethesda? They are insane with the markups. I wouldn’t order it from them. I have a guy at Euro in Germantown who worked me a good deal on my car I can point you to. But, Euro in Bethesda’s pricing on AMGs is insane.

If you can swing it, I would just go for it. You only live once. I love my S580, don’t miss my S560. I think you would love that S63.

 

Have you had any luck finding another S63? Looks like prices have dropped, not just on S63s, but on all used cars, so you'll get a lot more car for your money than a year ago.

 

Hi, We had no luck finding a used car with carbon ceramics so now my wife said lets find a 2000-5000 mile used 2024 or 2025 with them and if not, we'll have to unfortunately put a crowbar in our wallet and order a brand new one. Yikes. Life is short, we just want a new car I guess, with the ceramic brakes.

 

Would you consider buying the CCBs aftermarket and having someone install them on? For example: https://mbworld.org/forums/s63-amg-s...ml#post8988266

 

Thanks, I guess an indie shop in my area might do it, but I called my local Mercedes dealer and they said they absolutely wouldn't/couldn't install Mercedes gold colored carbon ceramic OEM brakes on any Mercedes other than one that already had it on the car originally. And the cost for them is like $15k or more plus a large amount to install. I wouldn't consider it on a 2018-2020 at this point, 5 years after the last car was built...to large a cost vs the age of the car.

 

Take it to MB Automotive Services in Rockville, the owners name is Patrik, he will do it. He is the best. In fact, just take the car there and never take it to the dealer again!

 

When I was first looking at another S-Class a couple years ago I had zero appreciation for CCB's. But after buying a used S550, then a used S63 a year later, I realized that CCB's would be nice. The OEM brake pads make too much brake dust! I'd never experienced a car that made that much brake dust, it was the last thing I expected from a luxury car. I would literally be able to see brake dust on the wheels within 10 miles of driving my car.

I saw on the AMG forum, and this one too, that you could buy carbon ceramic brake pads. I was a little skeptical because it seemed too good to be true. But on the other hand, the information came from what I believed to be reliable sources. I scoured the interweb for more information, and looked at a few YT videos. Then I took the plunge. I installed them on my car in May for the rear, and June for the front brakes. I have not needed to wash my wheels since. The brake dust was reduced by 90%+. Even when I've wash the car, which has onoly been twice since then, I barely touched the wheels. I used to use the 2-bucket method with washes, one for the wheels and another for the car. I wound up not even using the second bucket the lat time I washed my car. And the stopping power is exactly the same.

I know CCB's are better, and you'll probably never need to replace brake pads and rotors for the life of the car, but Carbon Ceramic pads only cost around $100 for front and rear, and reduce the annoying brake dust problem. I don't want to speak to longevity of the pads since I didn't do a lot of research on that. Just wanted to put that out there so it widens your choices.

 

I am also from the area and ended up getting my 2024 S580 CPO with 2000 miles and under 6 months in service from Florida.

 

Funny how things turn out... now, we want to look at gettng a 2019 or 2020 S63 with Carbon Ceramic brakes, all leather steering wheel (not wood or carbon fiber or that microfiber stuff, black interior and not black exterior) so if anyone will have one for sale with lower miles, please reach out! I realize hardly anyone has one w/carbon ceramics so we'd be open to one without them. Every one we've found so far is beige or white or brown interior or with the microfiber wheel or black exterior - things we don't want. Just found a beauty today with under 9k miles, a 2020 but it is Magnetite black with beige interior, and oddly, no Burmester tweeters that spin on and off like what we had. A beauty though and looks to be pretty perfect. We are thinking that if we buy a 2025 S63 we'll lose $90-$100k in value in 3-4 years and I'm so comfortable with the tech of the 2018-2020's. The newer ones, not a super fan of those huge screens.

 

The screens and tech in the new one is not an issue. The Infotainment is much qucker and more feature rich.

You can always buy replacement steering wheels so i wouldn't let that bother yoiu.

 

I would focus on finding the lowest mileage loaded up example that you can find that meets your criteria and then add the CCB rotors and disks after the fact. You can pick up a like new set on Ebay for around 12K and any competent brake shop can install them for less than a grand and then you could probably sell the rotors and calipers that you remove for several thousand dollars. I saw a complete set up on Ebay a few weeks ago from a wrecked 2025 S63 that would have been perfect for you at this price so they do pop up from time to time. I do not blame you on wanting a 19 or 20, I love mine and am not necessarily a fan of the W223 body. You would probably save over 100K doing this and have what is familiar to you. The challenge is that there was a 4 year gap in production so nice used examples are getting very hard to find.

 

Welcome back...LOL

I'll let you know if I come across one. I actually enjoy looking at cars and frequently check the sites for S63's.
You gave me a piece of excellent advice before I bought my S63, I love my all leather steerign wheel. You said you didn't like the alcantara steering wheel and swapped yours out. Great advice; I have large and sometimes sweaty hands, a suede steering wheel would have felt weird after awhile.

 

Pffft. Step up to a post-facelift S65 with CCB's.

 

In fact, here's a couple of beautiful ones.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...icle/732734991
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...icle/732256250

 

Or, consider a Maybach S650. I'd only go with two-tone though...

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...icle/733474752
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...icle/734784621

 

I might be mistaken but I think she lives again: https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WDDUG8JB8JA396370

 

Man, it wound up in Utah?!?

 

The damage is listed as "Minor" yet the vehicle was totaled by the insurance company?

 

Repair looks good. Would be a good value for someone. I would worry about RMS and OVS with no warranty. Funny what Carfax deems a minor accident.

 

Interesting journey for sure, MD to Cali, to Utah. Maybe so they can be assured nobody from the past will run across it again. I hope @stever500 confirms one way or the other.

I know, right? Maybe because it also had an accident in 2022, so they couldn't be assured of the ARV.

 

Auction site says it sold for 38.5K and I am guessing it was another 8K or so to fix assuming a competent mechanic purchased it, so someone did OK on this deal if they really get 54K for it. The problem is these cars depreciate so fast you cannot hang into them for any real period of time as it is probably over 1K per month in depreciation at this point.

 

Honestly I would consider that damage minor....$54k is a pretty good price for the car given its history...thats a good buy.