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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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w211 E55 VS CLK550 with exhaust

bought my used e55 two weeks ago decided to take it out for some fun when I bumped into a clk550 with exhaust never ran one before went from a dig to 100 put about 4-5 lengths then from 60 roll till about 130 it was ugly about 5-6 lengths the guy was a sore loser about it
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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no surprised here...dont know what to say if you lost the race with E55.

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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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The guy was a sore loser? Expand on that? If he had any brain cells at all he would know his place in the food chain of racing and should not be sore but instead stupid for racing you in the first place.
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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I do believe that many MB owners don't know what is under their hood. Specially C class owners.

My admin assistant drives a C280. The first time I met her a few years back, I asked her about her car. She said "I love the power, i think its a v8".

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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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I do believe that many MB owners don't know what is under their hood. Specially C class owners..!

Not only that, some of them think just because they own a Mercedes, they think they're in the same class as all Mercedes owners. One time I told a co-work that the Honda accord cost just couple thousands less.
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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The Clk550 driver is ignorant. Hence not a AMG car. Come on a blowen 55 motor 469hp vs 382 not to mention the huge trq difference. Different class.
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well I gave the guy a thumbs up but he decided to give me a dirty look and sped off
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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well I gave the guy a thumbs up but he decided to give me a dirty look and sped off
I hate ppls like that ....whether you win or lose Cmon show some class

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitato1
bought my used e55 two weeks ago decided to take it out for some fun when I bumped into a clk550 with exhaust never ran one before went from a dig to 100 put about 4-5 lengths then from 60 roll till about 130 it was ugly about 5-6 lengths the guy was a sore loser about it

That is a complete lie. I raced a 2006 e 55 with my 2007 clk 550 from about 45 to about 100 and we were head to head. not to mention i beat him. A big differnce is that e 55 tops out somewhere in the 150's were as mine tops out at 140. these are all FACTS.
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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That is a complete lie. I raced a 2006 e 55 with my 2007 clk 550 from about 45 to about 100 and we were head to head. not to mention i beat him. A big differnce is that e 55 tops out somewhere in the 150's were as mine tops out at 140. these are all FACTS.
lol. THIS is a complete lie. the e55 is significantly faster than an 07 CLK550. Try comparing 493 hp of the E55 to 360 something of the CLK550. maybe its 380 something idk. but it should not be close. you raced an E55 with a bad I/C pump....which means he didnt have 493 hp at the time....this is very common.......and these are ALL FACTS
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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no surprised here...dont know what to say if you lost the race with E55.

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wow people are funny. any 500's or 55's come get it!!! my stock 07 clk 550 will make all of you rub your eyes. this is my third MB. first one was a 1997 s 500 coupe which was a awsome car. the second was a 2001 ml 55 amg, and now a 07 clk 550. the clk 550 is a excellent machine. not really built for taking corners like the amg's but as far as power goes.. like i said any come get it.
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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lol. THIS is a complete lie. the e55 is significantly faster than an 07 CLK550. Try comparing 493 hp of the E55 to 360 something of the CLK550. maybe its 380 something idk. but it should not be close. you raced an E55 with a bad I/C pump....which means he didnt have 493 hp at the time....this is very common.......and these are ALL FACTS
you might be right, at first i knew he would take me. we matched up on the highway and after the third beep we both clicked, head to head to about 100, no reason to lie here.
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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YOU ARE NOT going to beat E55 FOR SURE. Cmon now.

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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lol i can prove it. a very intreseting youtube video will be posted up soon. and i will let everybody know exactly where to find it soon. (today is my first day as a member here, very fun)
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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We talking about E55 W211 here.

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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yes sir, 2006
Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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but now i have serious questions. as far as aftermarket performance parts what do you guys think, kleeman, brabus, w/e. whats better and when i say better i mean healthy horsepower and nothing that will shorten the cars life. by the way that pic (m benz) thats a clk 550 too right? 07? mine is a light metallic blue/silver. but thats a beautiful color also. never mind didnt look at your info on the side.

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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That is a complete lie. I raced a 2006 e 55 with my 2007 clk 550 from about 45 to about 100 and we were head to head. not to mention i beat him. A big differnce is that e 55 tops out somewhere in the 150's were as mine tops out at 140. these are all FACTS.
Umm, no. Not one that was functioning properly, with premium fuel, on properly inflated tires, with parking brake off, driven by a driver who had a brain at any rate....

http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/e55amg2003-1.htm
E55 test in sport auto 01/2003
Gewicht 1944 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,6 s

http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/...c2092007-1.htm
CLK550 (badged as 500 in Europe) test in ams Jahrbuch, 2008
Gewicht 1689 kg
0 - 80 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,5 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,3 s
0 - 130 km/h 8,4 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,2 s
0 - 200 km/h - s

45 mph to 100: OK, let's check this out: 45 mph is 72 km/h. Lowest speed they record is 80 km/h (about 50 mph), so we'll have to work with that. 100 mph is about 160 km/h.

So CLK550 takes 12.2 - 4.0 = 8.2 s to get from 50 - 100 mph, so it picks up 50 mph/8.2 s = 6.01 mph/s. E55 takes 9.8 - 3.3 = 6.5s, or 7.69 mph/s.

Which means that if you both punched it at 80 km/h (50 mph), here's how fast you should be going after each second in mph:

-- CLK550: E55:
1s: 56.01 57.69
2s: 62.02 65.38
3s: 68.03 73.07
4s: 74.04 80.76
5s: 80.05 88.45
6s: 86.06 96.14
7s: 92.07 103.83
8s: 98.08 111.52

Now, this is a bit off due to using a linear approximation for a nonlinear acceleration curve, which will give speed a bit high as it's using an average, while acceleration drops off as speed increases. Let's double check vs actual:

CLK550 took 8.2 s to get from 80-160 km/h.

E55 is going 80 km/h after 3.3 s .

So we need to know how fast the E55 would be going when you're at 100 mph, so take the time at which it hit 80 km/h (50 mph) from above, which is 3.3 sec, and add the time it took the CLK550 to go from 50-100 mph (8.2 sec) to the starting time (3.3s): 3.3 + 8.2 = 11.5 s.

Now we need to figure out the speed the E55 would be doing after 11.5 s.

From above, E55 does:
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s

Using an average over this narrower range will give more accurate results. It takes 2.4 s to get from 160-180, or 20 km/h / 2.4s = 8.33333 km/h/s. At 11.5 s, it's gone for 1.7 seconds from 9.8, so it should be going 160 km/h + 1.7 s*8.3333km/h/s = 174.16666 km/h, or 108.22 mph.

Also, just look at the standing start numbers: it took the CLK550 12.2 sec to hit 160 km/h (100 mph), while the E55 hit 180 km/h (111.86 mph) in the same amount of time. That's a huge difference.

So, there you have it. No matter how you slice it, in the time it takes you to get from 50-100, he's accelerated from 50-108+, probably more like 110+.

He'd be walking you pretty good at that point, no way you'd be door to door unless something's seriously wrong. The numbers just don't back this up, not even close.

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Your friend must have a bad ic pump or something. I've never seen or heard CLK550 can hang with E55 AMG...no way lol.

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That is a complete lie. I raced a 2006 e 55 with my 2007 clk 550 from about 45 to about 100 and we were head to head. not to mention i beat him. A big differnce is that e 55 tops out somewhere in the 150's were as mine tops out at 140. these are all FACTS.
There is no way no how you raced a healthy 211 E55 and was even. I know this guy who has a E63 which is close in performance as the 211 E55. We did a 2nd gear roll with my Clk55,he just kept pulling away. Just look at the trap speed difference between the two. Mine traps around 109 same as the Clk550.
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lol i can prove it. a very intreseting youtube video will be posted up soon. and i will let everybody know exactly where to find it soon. (today is my first day as a member here, very fun)
Prove it with someone legit - where do you live? I'm sure there's a member that lives close to you that would'nt mind having a run at it.

It'll be fun!
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Prove it with someone legit - where do you live? I'm sure there's a member that lives close to you that would'nt mind having a run at it.

It'll be fun!
I would love to have a run. I live in New York. anybody??
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Umm, no. Not one that was functioning properly, with premium fuel, on properly inflated tires, with parking brake off, driven by a driver who had a brain at any rate....

http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/e55amg2003-1.htm
E55 test in sport auto 01/2003
Gewicht 1944 kg
0 - 80 km/h 3,3 s
0 - 100 km/h 4,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,9 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,6 s

http://www.einszweidrei.de/mercedes/...c2092007-1.htm
CLK550 (badged as 500 in Europe) test in ams Jahrbuch, 2008
Gewicht 1689 kg
0 - 80 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,5 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,3 s
0 - 130 km/h 8,4 s
0 - 140 km/h 9,5 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,2 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,2 s
0 - 200 km/h - s

45 mph to 100: OK, let's check this out: 45 mph is 72 km/h. Lowest speed they record is 80 km/h (about 50 mph), so we'll have to work with that. 100 mph is about 160 km/h.

So CLK550 takes 12.2 - 4.0 = 8.2 s to get from 50 - 100 mph, so it picks up 50 mph/8.2 s = 6.01 mph/s. E55 takes 9.8 - 3.3 = 6.5s, or 7.69 mph/s.

Which means that if you both punched it at 80 km/h (50 mph), here's how fast you should be going after each second in mph:

-- CLK550: E55:
1s: 56.01 57.69
2s: 62.02 65.38
3s: 68.03 73.07
4s: 74.04 80.76
5s: 80.05 88.45
6s: 86.06 96.14
7s: 92.07 103.83
8s: 98.08 111.52

Now, this is a bit off due to using a linear approximation for a nonlinear acceleration curve, which will give speed a bit high as it's using an average, while acceleration drops off as speed increases. Let's double check vs actual:

CLK550 took 8.2 s to get from 80-160 km/h.

E55 is going 80 km/h after 3.3 s .

So we need to know how fast the E55 would be going when you're at 100 mph, so take the time at which it hit 80 km/h (50 mph) from above, which is 3.3 sec, and add the time it took the CLK550 to go from 50-100 mph (8.2 sec) to the starting time (3.3s): 3.3 + 8.2 = 11.5 s.

Now we need to figure out the speed the E55 would be doing after 11.5 s.

From above, E55 does:
0 - 160 km/h 9,8 s
0 - 180 km/h 12,2 s

Using an average over this narrower range will give more accurate results. It takes 2.4 s to get from 160-180, or 20 km/h / 2.4s = 8.33333 km/h/s. At 11.5 s, it's gone for 1.7 seconds from 9.8, so it should be going 160 km/h + 1.7 s*8.3333km/h/s = 174.16666 km/h, or 108.22 mph.

Also, just look at the standing start numbers: it took the CLK550 12.2 sec to hit 160 km/h (100 mph), while the E55 hit 180 km/h (111.86 mph) in the same amount of time. That's a huge difference.

So, there you have it. No matter how you slice it, in the time it takes you to get from 50-100, he's accelerated from 50-108+, probably more like 110+.

He'd be walking you pretty good at that point, no way you'd be door to door unless something's seriously wrong. The numbers just don't back this up, not even close.
Now I have a headache....
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I would love to have a run. I live in New York. anybody??
Someone in NY need to show him and dont forget to record it lol.

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I would love to have a run. I live in New York. anybody??
Why don't you just post the video to youtube you had promised?
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lol i can prove it. a very intreseting youtube video will be posted up soon. and i will let everybody know exactly where to find it soon. (today is my first day as a member here, very fun)
That was three days ago. Here's a link to the "How To" page on youtube in case you're having difficulties:
http://www.youtube.com/t/yt_handbook_produce


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