haha it's a fun car just the right amount of way too much. too big, too heavy, too much power.

 

Things that I would drive, some new some used, if I was looking for some bang for my buck....

Mustang GT350/GT350R
Audi R8
Cadillac CTS-V (prior gen)

Maybe,maybe a Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8

and of course an E63.

 

Quote:
" Originally Posted by fkfleischli View Post
911 GT3. It handles better and is quicker than the 911 Turbo, as it is noticeably lighter. It points really well at turn in, huge brakes, and gives great feedback at the limit. The naturally aspirated motor is terrifically responsive, has a great growl, and more than fun. Importantly, it has nearly the insanity of the C63.
It technically doesn't handle better due to the factory using GT tires and not R compound tires.The GT3 uses softer tires.

it's faster around many tracks than the GT3. It's absolutely not quicker. Both turn in really well and have great brakes. The GT3 advantage is price, weight and NA."

Maz, I tested back to back different iterations of Turbos and GT3s in Atlanta last Spring. For my driving style the lighter weight of the GT3 made the car much more responsive, and it was consistently quicker on the timing board, than the Turbo. I will say the GT3 tires did not inspire confidence. When sliding a corner I did not know when they were going to take a set, and worse yet, not uncommonly they would initially take a false set, then slide a bit more (kind of like Indycars "reds"). Our suggestion was that they should use a different tire going forward.

Having said the above, cars are very much like wine, inasmuch as we can differ in our opinions, and yet both of us are correct.

 

I think the GT3 will always be out of reach for me. The Turbo S is at least an attainable car (not at this point in my life, but at some point). I would love the chance to drive both on a track though

 

Trading in for a Viper next week.

 

 

Sadly the GT3 is not available with rear seats. If it were, it would be more enticing. It's also a *lot* more than most Turbo S's.

 

Current gen?

I went wild for a black T/A one. Omg. Still not out of the cards.

You guys want to talk about a car that is trying to kill you..

 

Jeep SRT8 ftw tho!

No love for the Alfa? It comes sometime in 2017 to the US.
Not sure if its a really good choice or a bad choice lol.

I go to Europe all the time but in the US it will be different :S

 

I think the Guilia is an awesome car. Not sure it's within 20K of a used late-ish model 911t, but it looks like they really pulled one out there.

And it sounds great! Though not sure I'd want to own an 80K Alfa that was out of warrenty...

 

Agreed.

 

Sucks that they aren't bringing the manual to US.

 

Yes, put in my GTC - 1 of 1 order a few months back and it's finally about to ship out from the factory. Mine has the TA group/interior. Can't wait!

 

GT3 Cup here for only $79k. That should be my next car.....

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7852/overview/

Looking around just that site, there are plenty of late-model (2011-2013) black Turbo S's around to be had for under $100k. Hmmmm.....

 

I miss driving a manual, and was planning on getting one to go alongside the C63. I was highly anticipating the Alfa until I found out it was only being offered as an automatic.

 

I saw the Alfa Guilia when it came to the Kansas Auto Show, it was definitely a beauty, minus that ugly *** side clover/badge. I look forward to seeing those around.

 

^ Looks like it's ready to go offroading - look at that wheel gap, it's like 3". Needs to be slammed in a big way.

 

Yeah that is a huge wheel gap...NEEDS 20's lol


I agree the biggest thing is that is doesn't come in manual...honestly that's one of the most important things and that kind of is a killer...

Plus first gen of a euro car is probably not a good idea...so tempting thoooooooooo


Also quadrifoglio means four leaf clover in italian, hence the badge. I don't mind it.

I like to joke around and call it the quattro formaggio


It's also fun to drive a car that 95% of the US population doesn't know exists.

Whats an alfa romero? lmao

 

I actually really like the clover badge.

 

cls63 hopefully

 

+1

 

+2

the alfa looks unbelievably hot! if it was a V8 id be selling

 

It has 505hp and 443 lb ft and sounds like a V8. Its a very comparable car, V8 or not.

 

The Alfa sounds amazing. And it sure looks like it will out handle or cars by a very healthy margin, and it has back seats and doors... but it is still the first year of an Italian car. Yeah, a bit gunshy. But the blue does look lovely!

 

yes agree seems like an amazing can , perhaps your hearing is impaired as it sounds nothing , zero , zip ,nada, nothing at all like a V8 to me , but I'm Australian and we love V8 noise