oil change question?




Keep it classy.




Our best response is to act like a child having a tantrum....call names and insist that everyone pay attention!
Even sadder, the totality of your participation is to try and argue with me over a rhetorical detail from some other guy's website. It's not enough to accept my assertion that sand in your oil is abrasive, and without dumping it out, it may cause wear. A middle school boy could understand that concept.....you don't.
Could it just be Windman misstated this bit....maybe....but English isn't his first language. Maybe write to him, or start you own bitter little thread. lol.
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...ing-sound.html
No comment on the thread above though. I dunno what people are trying to gain by monkeying with or changing a filter more than is NECESSARY, when they know it will shoot some silicon into the engine. It shows up on UOAs, sometimes with extra wear.
This why guys I know change their air filters about 1000 miles before an oil change, to get the filter working properly than drop the oil with the abrasive silicon out. It's pretty simple stuff.




This thread has it all...large pics of oil containers, responses to questions nobody asked, unintelligent sarcasm that's not really sarcasm, links to 'puns' that aren't really puns. I actually look forward to reading this thread.
Hey Junkie, post some pics of your other rides. I'm curious as to what other mods you have done over the years.
The Best of Mercedes & AMG





Nice of you to ask, but Photobucket has terminated linked images, my technical posts have gotten squashed and I don't have many car pics elsewhere.
I have this one....which is current.

It has APR and E85 mode, good for 400ft-lbs
The rest are pretty random, our first Tiguan, 6M w/APR on A3 springs....

The Q5 3.2 that was inbeteween the Tigs...


Wife's 2017 Tig...

My Boxster, which preceded the CLK...nice.

Work truck...

Mom's JSW gas

I had a Rover, briefly
Tracking my 2-day old B6....

Finding pics is kind of a pita...thanks for asking though.




Get yourself a fumoto valve and you won't have to change that plug ever again or worry about a washer. It's a ball valve that will outlast the car...lol You will not get oil on yourself and it's not messy. Turn the valve and let it drain. Then close it and fill the car like normal.
I've had them on all of our vehicles. I went to put one on our w211 and the stupid pan gets in the way so I have to get their different style version so it will fit without hitting the pan. The one I took off our CLK worked flawlessly.
In fact if you want it you can have it cheap since I have no use for it.
-Nigel

That's a lot of VAG cars that generally seep oil from every nook, cranny, seal, and crack...no wonder you're an expert on oil. I'm partial to the older C5 alroad. I always enjoy fixing oil leaks on that...keeps you on your toes.
After one year and a whopping 3,500 miles, and after much soul searching, I decided on Mobil 1 because I learned from this thread that it is the only oil that is recommended, approved, and, most important of all, compatible. All three of those things. Any other oil will eat your cylinder walls. Fact.
Last edited by Yidney; Jul 8, 2017 at 08:48 PM.




After one year and a whopping 3,500 miles, and after much soul searching, I decided on Mobil 1 because I learned from this thread that it is the only oil that is recommended, approved, and, most important of all, compatible. All three of those things. Any other oil will eat your cylinder walls. Fact.


Seriously, I agree with your "oil path". As I stated earlier, after the research I did on oils I decided Mobil 1 was the best option for a number of reasons. My research was far less than that of some on this forum, but enough to lock me into Mobil 1 and use time investigating and doing other things. Car has near 130K miles and it runs extremely well.....




If you don't know, you shouldn't be posting in this thread.
The answer for this moment seems to be that we could go 130k miles on Iffy Lube drum oil, it's no feat.
It's funny how people think that no car mfg ever had lubrication problems with "recommended" oil changes. It's ok to stick your head in the sand, but I'd rather be confident that I'm not burning out the engine BEFORE it actually happens. Please explain your guy's predictive methodology for that, keeping in mind what I said about mfg "recommendations" not being totally reliable.
It's also lame that nobody addressed my exact scenario where I am servicing an engine with a 60k of unknown history. I'm not sure if people think I need to use $8 a quart Mobil 1 for short changes....or just drive it full 13k intervals, relying on wishful thinking? Does anyone have a better idea how to clean the engine???? duh.
Also nobody addressed the 3rd World owners who might not have access to M1 0w-40 and even so, it's a hugely expensive and actually poor choice compared to common 15w-40 in hot climates.
Hmm, let me rely on the guys who know squat, with zero experience with any lubes other than Mobil 1, who just drive their engines into mediocrity. It actually reinforces my preconception of Mercedes owners. Of course they only complain about the $8 a quart in private, lol!
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Nope, no comments about that! Usually it's a mechanics who recommends the oil to a customer, but now they have a colorful sticker on their engine to rely on...at least those who don't have a strong male influence in their life.
Oh, thanks Audi Junkie, we're here lurking on a lube thread with our heads up our butts and no clue what the specs mean, what products are available, alternative methods with shorter intervals....none of that. NOW we know a lot more about it all, and can tell our friends....giving you full credit for passing this along.
THANKS AGAIN AUDI JUNKIE!!!
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SAE Sequence IIIG, yo
I almost feel sorry for someone like you, obviously at the end of their intellectual rope.
Kind of painful to watch.




Development of the Sequence IIIG Engine Oil Certification Test
http://papers.sae.org/2004-01-2987/
American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM) Sequence III Engine Oil Certification Tests have been used for the past forty-five years to evaluate lubricant performance characteristics for valvetrain wear, viscosity increase, and piston deposit formation. Minimum performance standards for passenger car light duty gasoline engine oil categories are set by the International Lubricants Standardization and Approval Committee (ILSAC) (1) and the American Petroleum Institute (API) (2). This paper describes the development of the new ASTM Sequence IIIG Engine Oil Certification Test for use in evaluating the performance characteristics of engine oils meeting the next generation, low sulfur, low phosphorus, ILSAC GF-4 and API licensing requirements.




Nevermind.
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You're not a terribly clever person, are you? You are too boring to engage with, even if just for fun. By the way, unless I missed it, you have never said what you do for a living, or what qualifies you as an oil expert. Petroleum engineer? WalMart greeter?



