Steering Vibration
#1
Steering Vibration
Hi! I have a problem with steering wheel vibration above 75mph. The car is an E63 w212 2009. Mileage 120,000 miles. I have new wheels. New tires mounted with road test optimization. New set of front wishbones. 3D suspension geometry set. New set of drive shaft discs. That didn't help. I rather rule out brake discs because there is no such problem when braking. Steering wheel vibrations only appear and exclusively at speeds above 75mph. Vibrations can also be felt under the driver's feet. More on the left side. I can feel play in the steering gear. Maybe in the steering column or somewhere else because when quickly moving the steering wheel left and right, a slight play is felt. Or shock absorbers need to be replaced. Does anyone have any other ideas?
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
Hi! I have a problem with steering wheel vibration above 75mph. The car is an E63 w212 2009. Mileage 120,000 miles. I have new wheels. New tires mounted with road test optimization. New set of front wishbones. 3D suspension geometry set. New set of drive shaft discs. That didn't help. I rather rule out brake discs because there is no such problem when braking. Steering wheel vibrations only appear and exclusively at speeds above 75mph. Vibrations can also be felt under the driver's feet. More on the left side. I can feel play in the steering gear. Maybe in the steering column or somewhere else because when quickly moving the steering wheel left and right, a slight play is felt. Or shock absorbers need to be replaced. Does anyone have any other ideas?
do you have spacers?
do you have run flat tires?
did you consider the driveshaft hangars?
#3
I don't have spacers. On the previous tires I have the impression that it was a bit worse. These are not RF tires. I replaced the entire drive shaft with a used one but with low mileage and bought completely new flex disk. No improvement so I would reject it. My workshop is now checking the steering column to correct some play that is present.
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2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
It could very well be your suspension. Definitely want to check the struts/shocks and control arm bushings. Should not be the engine mounts, but you may want to check those too. I have about 130,000 miles on my C350, but the engine is lighter and not nearly the torque that you have. So, your engine mounts may very well need replacing.
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MY'14 W212 M276 3.5NA @60kMi
Currently adjusting Right front wheel bearing freeplay. Left had the most freeplay.
My strut mounts bearings (+ bushings?) are confirmed shot at 60kMi ... these strut bearings are hell-o' weak. 👏
Looking forward to upgrade the grease in the new ones. Notice how the radiator fan vents heat in this area. This 200°F evaporates grease as strut gets heated. High temp silicone brake grease will stay put✌️
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Did you check the half shafts on each end?
I might have to take that back, rwd only, sorry!
Have you switched rims from left to right?
Could be the drive shaft at the coupler.
Think about the rpm this thing is doing, at 75mph +.
I might have to take that back, rwd only, sorry!
Have you switched rims from left to right?
Could be the drive shaft at the coupler.
Think about the rpm this thing is doing, at 75mph +.
Last edited by EckFe1; 07-28-2024 at 04:48 PM.
#9
I too am going through the same exercise... I sent both my front rims to the rear. That's proven not to be bent rims in my case: lucky
Currently adjusting Right front wheel bearing freeplay. Left had the most freeplay.
My strut mounts bearings (+ bushings?) are confirmed shot at 60kMi ... these strut bearings are hell-o' weak. 👏
Looking forward to upgrade the grease in the new ones. Notice how the radiator fan vents heat in this area. This 200°F evaporates grease as strut gets heated. High temp silicone brake grease will stay put✌️
Currently adjusting Right front wheel bearing freeplay. Left had the most freeplay.
My strut mounts bearings (+ bushings?) are confirmed shot at 60kMi ... these strut bearings are hell-o' weak. 👏
Looking forward to upgrade the grease in the new ones. Notice how the radiator fan vents heat in this area. This 200°F evaporates grease as strut gets heated. High temp silicone brake grease will stay put✌️
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MY'14 W212 M276 3.5NA @60kMi
Absolutely! Every joint needs to be tight without any freeplay.
Anything that impacts front axle stability is going to endup felt in the steering wheel. It's not just tie rod ends + rack that cause wheels to shake.
Replace in that order ...:
Anything that impacts front axle stability is going to endup felt in the steering wheel. It's not just tie rod ends + rack that cause wheels to shake.
Replace in that order ...:
- control arms
- ball joints
- wheel bearings adjustment
- stab links
- strut bearings + mount
- half-shafts
- ....
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W212E63s[rwd sold]W211E63[sold] 645ci [sold]2018 C63s Estate[sold], 2017 gla 45 [Sold] E46m3 [sold]
Hi! I have a problem with steering wheel vibration above 75mph. The car is an E63 w212 2009. Mileage 120,000 miles. I have new wheels. New tires mounted with road test optimization. New set of front wishbones. 3D suspension geometry set. New set of drive shaft discs. That didn't help. I rather rule out brake discs because there is no such problem when braking. Steering wheel vibrations only appear and exclusively at speeds above 75mph. Vibrations can also be felt under the driver's feet. More on the left side. I can feel play in the steering gear. Maybe in the steering column or somewhere else because when quickly moving the steering wheel left and right, a slight play is felt. Or shock absorbers need to be replaced. Does anyone have any other ideas?