kafklatsch

I was reading from an AI query that Mercedes are the only US automobiles with level 3 autonomy. I was actually unaware of this.

Can someone that has used this feature give some feedback on its use and effectiveness and also the level of "confidence" when using the feature (or link me to such information)

Also, is there anyone that has used both the drive pilot and the Tesla system. How do they compare (again a link to such information is fine)?

Thanks
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Radman991

I have super cruise on my 24 GMC Acadia. It allows me to drive for quite a while without hands on the steering wheel. I’ve gone over 5 minutes without touching the wheel. I don’t think it’s classified as level 3, but it’s much better than the level 2 on my EQS. It only works on roads that GMC has mapped out, but it works rather well, much to my surprise. I think of it as level 2 on steroids.

QuadBenz

Happy to answer any questions you have about the Tesla system as well as GM Super Cruise, but don't have any hands on experience with Mercedes Drive Pilot. It is unlikely anyone here has or has used the level 3 Drive Pilot system in an EQS. There were *VERY FEW* cars shipped with the hardware needed for this. This is still a very limited release and is still in its infancy, but yes, Mercedes does have the first level 3 system.

Recent video from a few days ago:

Video from a year ago:

BenjaminKohl

Level 3 is only available from certain California and Bevada dealerships, in very very very limited numbers. It is limited to under 40 mph on pre mapped highways in traffic in good weather and daytime. But yes it's the only level 3 system, meaning the car is soley responsible, you don't need to be paying attention, but also you don't get any say.

GM Supercruise and similar systems are a sort of "level 2.5" system where you're still responsible, you set the parameters, and you have to be monitoring at all times, but it works in more places and still doesn;t require touching the steering wheel every 30 seconds.

superswiss

As said above, Tesla's and other systems are at best level 2.5. They don't have legal approval for level 3. Level 3 means you are allowed to literally do anything else and the car is guaranteed to drive itself within the limited parameters the system works. As such it's currently only approved in California and Nevada on limited stretches of highway and as said, only during stop & go traffic up to 40 mph. It's largely a gimmick unless you spend your life in stop & go traffic. Might as well take the bus or train if that's how you spend your day. I never understood spending six figures on a car and then waste away in stop&go traffic for hours every day.

Also, the vehicle needs to be equipped with a bunch of additional hardware such as Lidar, high precision GPS etc. for Level 3. Can't be activated on existing cars if not equipped with the required hardware from the factory.

Diesel Benz

Mercedes has now increased the drive pilot speed range to 95 km/h: Me too still consider it an expensive gimmick.

https://jesmb.de/23741/

hlothery

I agree, I would just take the bus or train (if we had one) if I didn't want to drive my car. I want to drive it, and I don't want a computer doing it for me. I love to drive. No Drive Pilot for me.