GLE Class (V167) Produced 2020 to present

2024 GLE Coding - Specifically Drift Mode and ESP Disable

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 10-16-2024 | 05:30 PM
  #1  
85258's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
GLE53
2024 GLE Coding - Specifically Drift Mode and ESP Disable

Hello,
We bought a 2024 GLE 53 this past summer. It is my wife's DD.
I had read that Drift mode and ESP disable (completely off) could be coded on the V167. I have reached out to a few coders and none of them have confirmed that this can be coded on to a 2024 LCI. The list for coding for the 2024 is pretty slim compared to the non LCI.
Any one out there have a coder that they can recommend that can code the drift mode and ESP completely off?
Old 10-16-2024 | 08:00 PM
  #2  
JettaRed's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 5,436
Likes: 2,029
From: Maryland, United States
2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
I have no idea why you would want to do that, but if it can be done, @BenzNinja can probably do it. He's a sponsor to these forums and you can find his postings if you look. His website is www.benzninja.com.
Old 10-17-2024 | 05:43 AM
  #3  
Tv1982's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 44
Likes: 7
Gle 400d v167 2019
Originally Posted by 85258
Hello,
We bought a 2024 GLE 53 this past summer. It is my wife's DD.
I had read that Drift mode and ESP disable (completely off) could be coded on the V167. I have reached out to a few coders and none of them have confirmed that this can be coded on to a 2024 LCI. The list for coding for the 2024 is pretty slim compared to the non LCI.
Any one out there have a coder that they can recommend that can code the drift mode and ESP completely off?
Does it still use hu6? If yes then It is possible.
Old 10-17-2024 | 02:06 PM
  #4  
85258's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
GLE53
Thank-you @JettaRed Why do I want to do this? I live where it snows and it is fun to drift around in RWD with ESC completely shut off.
@Tv1982 I do not know...
Old 10-17-2024 | 04:54 PM
  #5  
JettaRed's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 5,436
Likes: 2,029
From: Maryland, United States
2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
Originally Posted by 85258
Thank-you @JettaRed Why do I want to do this? I live where it snows and it is fun to drift around in RWD with ESC completely shut off.
As long as it is with the wife's car, you should be OK.
Old 10-17-2024 | 05:19 PM
  #6  
petee1997's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,797
Likes: 211
From: Ontario,Canada
...24 GLE53
Originally Posted by 85258
Hello,
We bought a 2024 GLE 53 this past summer. It is my wife's DD.
I had read that Drift mode and ESP disable (completely off) could be coded on the V167. I have reached out to a few coders and none of them have confirmed that this can be coded on to a 2024 LCI. The list for coding for the 2024 is pretty slim compared to the non LCI.
Any one out there have a coder that they can recommend that can code the drift mode and ESP completely off?

WHY?.??
Old 10-17-2024 | 05:30 PM
  #7  
superswiss's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 8,833
Likes: 4,042
From: San Francisco Bay Area
2019 C63CS
No, that's unlikely possible. For starters the 53 models lack a rear limited slip differential. Drifting with an open differential is highly ill-advised as it's very unpredictable. One of the wheels can uncontrollably hook up at any point and throw you off the road. For proper drifting, you need at least a passive limited slip differential, but all the AMGs with drift mode have the electronic locking rear differential or in case of the A/CLA 45 the torque splitter rear differential.

As for ESP off, SUVs don't get that due to the rollover risk. Even in the 63 models when it says ESP is fully off, it really isn't. Rollover protection is always active and ESP will intervene even if its off if it thinks there's a rollover risk. You gonna need to get a car with a lower center of gravity if you want a fully off ESP.

Last edited by superswiss; 10-17-2024 at 05:32 PM.
Old 10-17-2024 | 05:33 PM
  #8  
Benzman33's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 518
Likes: 32
From: New York
2024 GLE 350
Originally Posted by superswiss
No, that's unlikely possible. For starters the 53 models lack a rear limited slip differential. Drifting with an open differential is highly ill-advised as it's very unpredictable. One of the wheels can uncontrollably hook up at any point and throw you off the road. For proper drifting, you need at least a passive limited slip differential, but all the AMGs with drift mode have the electronic locking rear differential or in case of the A/CLA 45 the torque splitter rear differential.

As for ESP off, SUVs don't get that due to the rollover risk. Even in the 63 models when it says ESP is fully off, it really isn't. Rollover protection is always active and ESP will intervene even if its off if it thinks there's a rollover risk. You gonna need to get a car with a lower center of gravity if you want a fully off ESP.
My Cayenne would allow me to Turn ESP off fully, for the snow...
Old 10-17-2024 | 05:40 PM
  #9  
superswiss's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 8,833
Likes: 4,042
From: San Francisco Bay Area
2019 C63CS
Originally Posted by Benzman33
My Cayenne would allow me to Turn ESP off fully, for the snow...
Yes, but you misunderstood. ESP is three things in an SUV. Traction control, yaw control and rollover protection. You can at most turn off the first two, so off doesn't really mean off. Non-SUV vehicles don't have rollover protection, so they only have traction control and yaw control, which both can be turned off if the specific model allows it.
Old 10-17-2024 | 07:39 PM
  #10  
85258's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
GLE53
BenzNinja replied to my inquiry.
"Sorry but we don’t support this car yet due to the fact that we don’t want to leave foreign (Europe or Asian) license traces in your car
This will be difficult to explain to the dealer if they notice
Other coders don’t care and offer coding, we prefer waiting to are genuine USA license before offering this.
We will be offering the service asap, working on it"So it would seem like they can do it. MBhouse offers drift mode and ESP delete on 2019-2022 GLE 53 as per their website. I have asked if they can do a 2024 and they are looking into it as well.

If you don't get it or ask why this probably is not a mod you should have. I mostly want it for ESP fully off when selected. I simply dislike ESP in daily driving in slippery conditions. I am enjoy driving with a bit of a slip angle in snowy conditions and dont want ESP intervening. My style is not for everyone and frankly most do not have the car control that I have. I have race cars for 25+ years (sport cars, stock cars, ice racing, karts) and dabble in drifting. So I am not going to end up in a ditch or roll over from disabling my ESP, even in an SUV. I also wonder if any of you drove prior to ESP/Traction control being prevalent in road cars? While it certainly has increase safety, It is not like prior to ESP everyone was rolling their cars...

In addition to racing, I grew up hooning 80s/90s Chvey Pick-up trucks, S10 Blazers, and Ford Explorers with open and LSD Diffs as well as miatas (open and LSD) and AW11 Mr2s (open diff). Drifting in snow all winter, rally driving farm roads and makeshift tracks on my Grandfather ranch/lake. I would even drift the LSD equipped trucks and SUVs on wet and dry pavement. I had a tight curvy section of an industrial area that I would drift in my Dad's Explorer on the pavement. 4000lbs, 160hp RWD with LSD. Put Auto trans in 2nd and I could "link" the 4 corners drifting. Form a young age I understood how to use weight transfer and what a car is actually capable of. I taught myself how to do "rockfords" and "j turns" on dirt and asphalt.




Old 10-17-2024 | 07:57 PM
  #11  
superswiss's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 8,833
Likes: 4,042
From: San Francisco Bay Area
2019 C63CS
Originally Posted by 85258
I also wonder if any of you drove prior to ESP/Traction control being prevalent in road cars? While it certainly has increase safety, It is not like prior to ESP everyone was rolling their cars...
Definitely agree with that. My first few cars didn't even have ABS and I still own a car that has neither traction control nor full ESP. The reality is that most people do not have a clue about car control. It's not their fault. Nobody teaches them as a requirement to get a driver's license. ESP for me is more about keeping others crashing into me if you know what I mean. It takes pathetically little to get a driver's license and keep it in North America. I got mine in Europe and for a while I commuted to work at 180 mph on the German Autobahn...haha. Everybody should really have to attend a car control clinic before they are given a permanent driver's license and they should regularly have to demonstrate that they can handle a car in an emergency situation. It would make the roads a lot safer. AMG does a great job with all the AMG Experience offerings. If you've never attended one I highly recommend it. One is even included in the purchase of an AMG 63 model and up in the USA.
Old 10-17-2024 | 09:59 PM
  #12  
vincheung's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 444
Likes: 175
From: NYC
S63, GLE580, Monster 1100S
Want all safety features off? No need to code.
#1 Double check your full coverage insurance.
#2 Put vehicle into Dyno mode (see YouTube link below for steps). All traction control is fully disabled, I think ABS also.
#3 Post experience/feedback up on forum.

Looking forward to hearing about it.

The following users liked this post:
wildta (Yesterday)
Old 10-17-2024 | 10:50 PM
  #13  
85258's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
GLE53
@superswiss I agree! ESP etc definitely helps keep the roads safe and at least 99.9% of drivers on the road depend on it. I road with a friend in his new mustang GT350 a few years ago. We would have been off the road backwards if he did have the Nannies on. He had no clue that they were even intervening.

Old 10-17-2024 | 10:58 PM
  #14  
85258's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
GLE53
@vincheung I will check that out! Still want an easy way to turn off at press of button.
I had a OBDII dongle for my 2016 Jeep SRT that allowed dyno mode to be activated using steering wheel buttons. It was a clunky to activate, no abs and all the dash lights would come on. The same dongle also allowed ESC to turn off fully. a bit less clunky than dyno mode (RWD!) but it worked.

my 2016 X5M allowed ESC off with one button press. I also had xdelete that allowed RWD to be flashed. Didn’t use it very often as it took time to flash it. It was interesting to drive a 600+hp SUV in RWD mode. (Careless down pipes and tune)
Old Yesterday | 01:05 PM
  #15  
jkaetz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 348
Likes: 141
2021 GLS580 | 2011 ML350 BlueTec | 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
There is always the low tech option of disconnecting a wheel speed sensor or an ABS fuse.
Old Yesterday | 01:23 PM
  #16  
85258's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
GLE53
Originally Posted by jkaetz
There is always the low tech option of disconnecting a wheel speed sensor or an ABS fuse.
Not what I am looking for. As close to OEM in operation is what I want. Turn ESP off or back on while driving. My Jeep SRT solution was borderline but it worked. Sounds like coding will be available in a couple months for this.
Old Today | 12:20 PM
  #17  
mikapen's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,092
Likes: 1,671
From: Colorado
'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
Originally Posted by vincheung
Want all safety features off? No need to code.
#1 Double check your full coverage insurance.
#2 Put vehicle into Dyno mode (see YouTube link below for steps). All traction control is fully disabled, I think ABS also.
#3 Post experience/feedback up on forum.

Looking forward to hearing about it.

https://youtu.be/hGRvJ8hIWz4?feature=shared
I doubt that you could drive anywhere in Dyno mode. I'll bet "roads" are one of those "conditions" that you mention that will kick it of Dyno.
Old Today | 05:52 PM
  #18  
Benzman33's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 518
Likes: 32
From: New York
2024 GLE 350
Originally Posted by 85258
Not what I am looking for. As close to OEM in operation is what I want. Turn ESP off or back on while driving. My Jeep SRT solution was borderline but it worked. Sounds like coding will be available in a couple months for this.
The Jeeps and Dodges if you pull a fuse it goes into RWD.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: 2024 GLE Coding - Specifically Drift Mode and ESP Disable



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:18 PM.