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Old Oct 16, 2024 | 05:30 PM
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2024 GLE Coding - Specifically Drift Mode and ESP Disable

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We bought a 2024 GLE 53 this past summer. It is my wife's DD.
I had read that Drift mode and ESP disable (completely off) could be coded on the V167. I have reached out to a few coders and none of them have confirmed that this can be coded on to a 2024 LCI. The list for coding for the 2024 is pretty slim compared to the non LCI.
Any one out there have a coder that they can recommend that can code the drift mode and ESP completely off?
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Old Oct 16, 2024 | 08:00 PM
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I have no idea why you would want to do that, but if it can be done, @BenzNinja can probably do it. He's a sponsor to these forums and you can find his postings if you look. His website is www.benzninja.com.
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Old Oct 17, 2024 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 85258
Hello,
We bought a 2024 GLE 53 this past summer. It is my wife's DD.
I had read that Drift mode and ESP disable (completely off) could be coded on the V167. I have reached out to a few coders and none of them have confirmed that this can be coded on to a 2024 LCI. The list for coding for the 2024 is pretty slim compared to the non LCI.
Any one out there have a coder that they can recommend that can code the drift mode and ESP completely off?
Does it still use hu6? If yes then It is possible.
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Old Oct 17, 2024 | 02:06 PM
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Thank-you @JettaRed Why do I want to do this? I live where it snows and it is fun to drift around in RWD with ESC completely shut off.
@Tv1982 I do not know...
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Thank-you @JettaRed Why do I want to do this? I live where it snows and it is fun to drift around in RWD with ESC completely shut off.
As long as it is with the wife's car, you should be OK.
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Old Oct 17, 2024 | 05:19 PM
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Hello,
We bought a 2024 GLE 53 this past summer. It is my wife's DD.
I had read that Drift mode and ESP disable (completely off) could be coded on the V167. I have reached out to a few coders and none of them have confirmed that this can be coded on to a 2024 LCI. The list for coding for the 2024 is pretty slim compared to the non LCI.
Any one out there have a coder that they can recommend that can code the drift mode and ESP completely off?

WHY?.??
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Old Oct 17, 2024 | 05:30 PM
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No, that's unlikely possible. For starters the 53 models lack a rear limited slip differential. Drifting with an open differential is highly ill-advised as it's very unpredictable. One of the wheels can uncontrollably hook up at any point and throw you off the road. For proper drifting, you need at least a passive limited slip differential, but all the AMGs with drift mode have the electronic locking rear differential or in case of the A/CLA 45 the torque splitter rear differential.

As for ESP off, SUVs don't get that due to the rollover risk. Even in the 63 models when it says ESP is fully off, it really isn't. Rollover protection is always active and ESP will intervene even if its off if it thinks there's a rollover risk. You gonna need to get a car with a lower center of gravity if you want a fully off ESP.

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Old Oct 17, 2024 | 05:33 PM
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No, that's unlikely possible. For starters the 53 models lack a rear limited slip differential. Drifting with an open differential is highly ill-advised as it's very unpredictable. One of the wheels can uncontrollably hook up at any point and throw you off the road. For proper drifting, you need at least a passive limited slip differential, but all the AMGs with drift mode have the electronic locking rear differential or in case of the A/CLA 45 the torque splitter rear differential.

As for ESP off, SUVs don't get that due to the rollover risk. Even in the 63 models when it says ESP is fully off, it really isn't. Rollover protection is always active and ESP will intervene even if its off if it thinks there's a rollover risk. You gonna need to get a car with a lower center of gravity if you want a fully off ESP.
My Cayenne would allow me to Turn ESP off fully, for the snow...
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Originally Posted by Benzman33
My Cayenne would allow me to Turn ESP off fully, for the snow...
Yes, but you misunderstood. ESP is three things in an SUV. Traction control, yaw control and rollover protection. You can at most turn off the first two, so off doesn't really mean off. Non-SUV vehicles don't have rollover protection, so they only have traction control and yaw control, which both can be turned off if the specific model allows it.
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BenzNinja replied to my inquiry.
"Sorry but we don’t support this car yet due to the fact that we don’t want to leave foreign (Europe or Asian) license traces in your car
This will be difficult to explain to the dealer if they notice
Other coders don’t care and offer coding, we prefer waiting to are genuine USA license before offering this.
We will be offering the service asap, working on it"So it would seem like they can do it. MBhouse offers drift mode and ESP delete on 2019-2022 GLE 53 as per their website. I have asked if they can do a 2024 and they are looking into it as well.

If you don't get it or ask why this probably is not a mod you should have. I mostly want it for ESP fully off when selected. I simply dislike ESP in daily driving in slippery conditions. I am enjoy driving with a bit of a slip angle in snowy conditions and dont want ESP intervening. My style is not for everyone and frankly most do not have the car control that I have. I have race cars for 25+ years (sport cars, stock cars, ice racing, karts) and dabble in drifting. So I am not going to end up in a ditch or roll over from disabling my ESP, even in an SUV. I also wonder if any of you drove prior to ESP/Traction control being prevalent in road cars? While it certainly has increase safety, It is not like prior to ESP everyone was rolling their cars...

In addition to racing, I grew up hooning 80s/90s Chvey Pick-up trucks, S10 Blazers, and Ford Explorers with open and LSD Diffs as well as miatas (open and LSD) and AW11 Mr2s (open diff). Drifting in snow all winter, rally driving farm roads and makeshift tracks on my Grandfather ranch/lake. I would even drift the LSD equipped trucks and SUVs on wet and dry pavement. I had a tight curvy section of an industrial area that I would drift in my Dad's Explorer on the pavement. 4000lbs, 160hp RWD with LSD. Put Auto trans in 2nd and I could "link" the 4 corners drifting. Form a young age I understood how to use weight transfer and what a car is actually capable of. I taught myself how to do "rockfords" and "j turns" on dirt and asphalt.




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I also wonder if any of you drove prior to ESP/Traction control being prevalent in road cars? While it certainly has increase safety, It is not like prior to ESP everyone was rolling their cars...
Definitely agree with that. My first few cars didn't even have ABS and I still own a car that has neither traction control nor full ESP. The reality is that most people do not have a clue about car control. It's not their fault. Nobody teaches them as a requirement to get a driver's license. ESP for me is more about keeping others crashing into me if you know what I mean. It takes pathetically little to get a driver's license and keep it in North America. I got mine in Europe and for a while I commuted to work at 180 mph on the German Autobahn...haha. Everybody should really have to attend a car control clinic before they are given a permanent driver's license and they should regularly have to demonstrate that they can handle a car in an emergency situation. It would make the roads a lot safer. AMG does a great job with all the AMG Experience offerings. If you've never attended one I highly recommend it. One is even included in the purchase of an AMG 63 model and up in the USA.
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Want all safety features off? No need to code.
#1 Double check your full coverage insurance.
#2 Put vehicle into Dyno mode (see YouTube link below for steps). All traction control is fully disabled, I think ABS also.
#3 Post experience/feedback up on forum.

Looking forward to hearing about it.

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@superswiss I agree! ESP etc definitely helps keep the roads safe and at least 99.9% of drivers on the road depend on it. I road with a friend in his new mustang GT350 a few years ago. We would have been off the road backwards if he did have the Nannies on. He had no clue that they were even intervening.

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@vincheung I will check that out! Still want an easy way to turn off at press of button.
I had a OBDII dongle for my 2016 Jeep SRT that allowed dyno mode to be activated using steering wheel buttons. It was a clunky to activate, no abs and all the dash lights would come on. The same dongle also allowed ESC to turn off fully. a bit less clunky than dyno mode (RWD!) but it worked.

my 2016 X5M allowed ESC off with one button press. I also had xdelete that allowed RWD to be flashed. Didn’t use it very often as it took time to flash it. It was interesting to drive a 600+hp SUV in RWD mode. (Careless down pipes and tune)
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There is always the low tech option of disconnecting a wheel speed sensor or an ABS fuse.
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There is always the low tech option of disconnecting a wheel speed sensor or an ABS fuse.
Not what I am looking for. As close to OEM in operation is what I want. Turn ESP off or back on while driving. My Jeep SRT solution was borderline but it worked. Sounds like coding will be available in a couple months for this.
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Want all safety features off? No need to code.
#1 Double check your full coverage insurance.
#2 Put vehicle into Dyno mode (see YouTube link below for steps). All traction control is fully disabled, I think ABS also.
#3 Post experience/feedback up on forum.

Looking forward to hearing about it.

https://youtu.be/hGRvJ8hIWz4?feature=shared
I doubt that you could drive anywhere in Dyno mode. I'll bet "roads" are one of those "conditions" that you mention that will kick it of Dyno.
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Not what I am looking for. As close to OEM in operation is what I want. Turn ESP off or back on while driving. My Jeep SRT solution was borderline but it worked. Sounds like coding will be available in a couple months for this.
The Jeeps and Dodges if you pull a fuse it goes into RWD.
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Why would anyone want drift mode on a GLE. It’s a SUV not designed for stupidity.
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Thank-you @JettaRed Why do I want to do this? I live where it snows and it is fun to drift around in RWD with ESC completely shut off.
@Tv1982 I do not know...
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Why would anyone want drift mode on a GLE. It’s a SUV not designed for stupidity.
OP said he likes drifting in the winter, which I presume is in an empty lot/road or somewhere in the open. Assuming the latter, seems like harmless fun and what I used to do when I lived in a region with winters.

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OP said he likes drifting in the winter, which I presume is in an empty lot/road or somewhere in the open. Assuming the latter, seems like harmless fun and what I used to do when I lived in a region with winters.
Personally, I'd get a beater for $500 if I wanted to drift in the snow, and not in a $100k car. But that's just me.
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Personally, I'd get a beater for $500 if I wanted to drift in the snow, and not in a $100k car. But that's just me.
I like multi purpose vehicles. I only have 7 garage spaces, so not enough for me to own one for each need.

Why not have fun in your Daily?

And no, even with three levels of nannies turned off, the Mama Nanny kicks in. It's awkward.

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Personally, I'd get a beater for $500 if I wanted to drift in the snow, and not in a $100k car. But that's just me.
Where are you finding a $500 car in 2024
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Where are you finding a $500 car in 2024
LOL! My 2000 Ford F150 with 235,000 miles. I'm pretty sure a flat tire will total it.

It came pre-dented and rusted out when I bought it a bunch of years ago.

Nah, you're probably right. It would probably take $1500-$2000 to get a running beater. Still, a little bit under $100k.

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Yeah, an SUV wouldn't be my first choice for drifting, a large one like the GLE and a 53 even less. As said, you can drift with an open differential if you are really hellbent about it, but not really recommended. Works ok on low friction surfaces like snow, but as soon as you hit pavement it's one wheel spin at best and loss of control at worst, and you'll still have the brakes intervene as EDL is trying to shift torque from the spinning wheel to the non-spinning wheel. This all works much better with an LSD. Get a non-SUV 63 with eLSD and more freedom with the ESP instead of trying to code something in that the car wasn't designed for. This is sort of the wrong tool for the job kinda discussion. If you are that good with driving dynamics I'd expect you know enough to get the proper car for the job.

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