SL/R230: New to R230 (seeking advice)
07-26-2005, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LVDell
**UPDATE....need input**
Ok, so here's were I am at regarding purchasing a new R230:
Dealership called today and asked if I was still interested in a new SL and I told them that I was probably going to wait till next spring before I buy a new one. They said that they had plenty of inventory right now that they would like to move and that I can get in the car below invoice.
I told them I would come in (I went ahead and made an appt with my sales guy) and talk and go over what they have.
So, a couple questions for those of you in the know:
1. What is invoice on this car? I have looked on MSN autos but I am looking for numbers from those in the know. Also, anyway to know what the dealer is "into" the car financialy? I mean I really want the best price possible without looking like a jackass trying to "steal" the car.
2. Before options, what would you offer to pay for a new SL and what is reasonable to ask for discounts numbers on options? Just trying to compute the cost of the car (dealer cost + options cost + small profit).
3. Any deal breakers that I should be aware of?
Thanks again all for entertaining my questions! Hope to be a part of the SL club soon.
Ok, so here's were I am at regarding purchasing a new R230:
Dealership called today and asked if I was still interested in a new SL and I told them that I was probably going to wait till next spring before I buy a new one. They said that they had plenty of inventory right now that they would like to move and that I can get in the car below invoice.
I told them I would come in (I went ahead and made an appt with my sales guy) and talk and go over what they have.
So, a couple questions for those of you in the know:
1. What is invoice on this car? I have looked on MSN autos but I am looking for numbers from those in the know. Also, anyway to know what the dealer is "into" the car financialy? I mean I really want the best price possible without looking like a jackass trying to "steal" the car.
2. Before options, what would you offer to pay for a new SL and what is reasonable to ask for discounts numbers on options? Just trying to compute the cost of the car (dealer cost + options cost + small profit).
3. Any deal breakers that I should be aware of?
Thanks again all for entertaining my questions! Hope to be a part of the SL club soon.
You can price out new cars with options, and see the dealer invoice as well as retail. It does not take dealer hold-back into account, but if you can get the car with the options you want below invoice, that would be a good deal.
Edmunds.com and nada.com also have this feature.
Good luck!
07-27-2005, 02:45 PM
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Well I just got back from the dealer and here is what happened:
1. My sales guy offered 7% off sticker on ANY of the SL's on the lot that were an 05.
2. They had 8 or 9 but none of them had the options combination I would have liked. Either that were just bone stock with NO options or they had options that I would never have picked.
So......I passed on getting one. I told him that I didn't want to drop that kinda coin on a car to only wake up the next day regretting my purchase thinking "I really wish I had got 'x' option(s)". He said to just order an 06 the way I want but I told him I was either buying an 05 at a great deal or waiting for the 07 with 382hp! He said see you next year and I left.
I have a call into my Mom's dealer that she has a great relationship with and I am just waiting on inventory descriptions before I up close up shop for a year.
Any thoughts? Advice? Input?
Thanks again all!!!!
1. My sales guy offered 7% off sticker on ANY of the SL's on the lot that were an 05.
2. They had 8 or 9 but none of them had the options combination I would have liked. Either that were just bone stock with NO options or they had options that I would never have picked.
So......I passed on getting one. I told him that I didn't want to drop that kinda coin on a car to only wake up the next day regretting my purchase thinking "I really wish I had got 'x' option(s)". He said to just order an 06 the way I want but I told him I was either buying an 05 at a great deal or waiting for the 07 with 382hp! He said see you next year and I left.
I have a call into my Mom's dealer that she has a great relationship with and I am just waiting on inventory descriptions before I up close up shop for a year.
Any thoughts? Advice? Input?
Thanks again all!!!!
07-27-2005, 02:48 PM
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I am surprised that for a vehicle purchase like this a "DEAL" is so important to you. We are each different, but if I like something I just buy it. Buy an 05 if you like it and want something different buy an 07 when they come out. It's only money, you can't take it with you.
07-27-2005, 02:56 PM
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It has nothing to do with the DEAL and everything to do with the principle and my desire to own the car. Why should I buy an 05 that is not how I would want it? If that is the case then order it the way I want it correct? True. But, why in the world would I waste money? The whole "you can't take it with you" way of thinking is selfish. Do you not think about taking care of your family (wife, kids, etc.) when you go?
I have no desire to get into a personal ethics debate with you and totally respect your opinion, I just don't agree with it.
If I am going to pay MSRP for a SL then I will wait till the spring and buy the 07 with 382 horses EXACTLY the way I want it. But if I can get an 05 at $7-10K off sticker then I would be crazy not to give it serious thought if it is in the correct color/option combo. Don't you agree? We don't have the financial portfolios we do b/c we throw money away and burn it in the fireplace now do we?
I have no desire to get into a personal ethics debate with you and totally respect your opinion, I just don't agree with it.
If I am going to pay MSRP for a SL then I will wait till the spring and buy the 07 with 382 horses EXACTLY the way I want it. But if I can get an 05 at $7-10K off sticker then I would be crazy not to give it serious thought if it is in the correct color/option combo. Don't you agree? We don't have the financial portfolios we do b/c we throw money away and burn it in the fireplace now do we?
07-27-2005, 03:44 PM
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Sticker on my car was 94k, I paid 84k.
At this point in the year you should be able to get at least 12k off.
I know that when they sell an SL they get better allocations on the cheaper models.. Believe me, they will give you a smoking deal on the 05.
I think the 2007 will come much sooner than later, I bet we see it in the spring of 06. From what I have read in the Euro mags the revisions (motor, bumpers) will be released at the first of the year for Europe.
Dont think that the dealers will be stingy on deals for the 2007 models.
A new motor and new bumper is not going to set the market on fire for Sl's.
If my dealer wont give me a similer deal on the 07 as I got on the 05 Ill just order a CLS55 or CLS63.
At this point in the year you should be able to get at least 12k off.
I know that when they sell an SL they get better allocations on the cheaper models.. Believe me, they will give you a smoking deal on the 05.
I think the 2007 will come much sooner than later, I bet we see it in the spring of 06. From what I have read in the Euro mags the revisions (motor, bumpers) will be released at the first of the year for Europe.
Dont think that the dealers will be stingy on deals for the 2007 models.
A new motor and new bumper is not going to set the market on fire for Sl's.
If my dealer wont give me a similer deal on the 07 as I got on the 05 Ill just order a CLS55 or CLS63.
07-27-2005, 03:48 PM
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I figured as much. I was shooting for at least $10K off so I wasn't to impressed by the $6-7K off deal. Basically said he was offering it at invoice plus options (which was true) but we didn't even get into dealer holdbacks, etc.
Can't imagine ANY dealer wants to sit on an 05 with 06's on the lot.
Thanks for the inpiut LB, much appreciated!
Can't imagine ANY dealer wants to sit on an 05 with 06's on the lot.
Thanks for the inpiut LB, much appreciated!
07-27-2005, 09:23 PM
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I suspect that the introduction of the new engine will re-ignite interest in (and sales of) the SL500. Remember all the great reviews of the R230 when it was introduced? It will happen again-- the mags will be saying that the difference between the old SL500 and the new one (0-60 times in the 5s rather than the 6s) is like night and day.
My advice to you is to wait. You don't need the car now and will be disappointed 9 months from now if you buy the '05. Get the one you want. The '07.
My advice to you is to wait. You don't need the car now and will be disappointed 9 months from now if you buy the '05. Get the one you want. The '07.
07-27-2005, 09:54 PM
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Thanks Jack.....I am almost hoping they don't offer me a better deal tomorrow when we chat again so I can just get the 07 and put this behind me and know what my decision is going to be.
07-29-2005, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Thanks Jack.....I am almost hoping they don't offer me a better deal tomorrow when we chat again so I can just get the 07 and put this behind me and know what my decision is going to be.
08-15-2005, 03:11 PM
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Wow...this is a great thread. I've recently been thinking about purchasing a new SL500 as well, and reading that the new engine and design is just about a year or so away....thats not far considering the life span of a car design and $$$$$.
I do wonder though if the new SL would really re-ignite the interest...hmmm.
I do wonder though if the new SL would really re-ignite the interest...hmmm.
08-15-2005, 03:16 PM
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Wow...this is a great thread. I've recently been thinking about purchasing a new SL500 as well, and reading that the new engine and design is just about a year or so away....thats not far considering the life span of a car design and $$$$$.
I do wonder though if the new SL would really re-ignite the interest...hmmm.
I do wonder though if the new SL would really re-ignite the interest...hmmm.
08-15-2005, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by redbrick
Wow...this is a great thread. I've recently been thinking about purchasing a new SL500 as well, and reading that the new engine and design is just about a year or so away....thats not far considering the life span of a car design and $$$$$.
I do wonder though if the new SL would really re-ignite the interest...hmmm.
I do wonder though if the new SL would really re-ignite the interest...hmmm.
