SL-Class (R230) 2003 -- 2012: Discussion on the SL500, SL550, SL600

SL/R230: SL cheaper in US

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Old 11-30-2004, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ivan18
thanks Jettie for the information........ you cleared me the situation for me.
Can you tell me for example about license, and the insurance on an SL500????? And what about the average salary per month in NJ??????
Do not 'pollute' this thread with your stupid average salary questions, ask them someplace else
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okey sorry MIKI for that.......I didn`r want to offend anyone. So what about the insurance on an SL500?????????
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$1500 - $1700 per year to insure an SL55.
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You can't ask about salaries on the state/city level as it varies a lot. But, the US Median Income is around $46k gross per year. Median income on the state level can be lower or higher than the US median depending on where you are in the country.
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In the Germany the base Price for a SL500 is 98,948 EUR. Click on this link and see: http://www.mercedes-benz.de/

In France the base price for a SL500 is 110,400 EUR. Click on this link and see: http://mbks-f.mercedes-benz.com/

Now lets forget about the cost of a SL500 in the US and ask our selves why the base cost of a SL500 that is listed on the web site is different in France and Germany. Mercedes has a price that they can sell the car for and Mercedes also includes all the fees imposed by a country in the base price for that country.

You may find out that bringing a car from the US may cost more because of the duties/fees that you will have to pay to bring a SL500 in your country from America. If not cancel your order and ship in a SL500 from the US.
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In Europe, we have free access to buying anything in another country and with cars, you just have to pay the sales tax in the country you live in instead of the country of origin. For other goods, if you've paid sales tax elsewhere, there's nothing more to pay in your home country. Other than the hassle factor, the theory is that this leads to prices equalising between the countries so that differences are no more than you'd find by shopping around.

If you are comparing prices, it's important to differentiate between specification. German cars are often available in the most basic of specifications. The SL in Germany is available without some of the things which are taken for granted in other countries to position the product in the desired market segment. An SL without Command, alcantara headlining, Xenon headlamps and the rest? Go to Germany. The previous SL (R129) first appeared with a particularly vile striped seat material and to my knowledge this never found its way outside Germany - leather there was an option at the beginning.

The difference you quote between France and Germany is most likely explained by more options being standard in France than in Germany. If that were not the case, people in France would flock over the border into Germany and buy there.
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Originally Posted by tiggerfink
In the Germany the base Price for a SL500 is 98,948 EUR. Click on this link and see: http://www.mercedes-benz.de/

In France the base price for a SL500 is 110,400 EUR. Click on this link and see: http://mbks-f.mercedes-benz.com/

Now lets forget about the cost of a SL500 in the US and ask our selves why the base cost of a SL500 that is listed on the web site is different in France and Germany. Mercedes has a price that they can sell the car for and Mercedes also includes all the fees imposed by a country in the base price for that country.

You may find out that bringing a car from the US may cost more because of the duties/fees that you will have to pay to bring a SL500 in your country from America. If not cancel your order and ship in a SL500 from the US.
Base price in Germany is 85,000EUR (i did not check what their website says but i have an invoice from a dealer in Germany). 13k difference you mentioned is 16% tax Germany has on cars. On top of that, you only have to pay registration fee which is less than 2k EUR and that is the 'on the road price'.

Price stated on websites almost always has TAX included. Some contries do not include it as there are ways to go around paying it as i mentioned earlier. I am almost sure base price of an SL is the same ALL over Europe , perhaps even in the UK ! Its the US and possibly Australia that we see a HUGE difference in price.

Bringing a car from US can not cost more. Base price in Germany 85k + Malverstoyer 16% = 98k
Base price in USA 69k(EUR) + 2k (EUR) shipping + 16% M TAX = 82k EUR

I am sure mercedes dealers all over Europe are making serious cash, importing cars from USA ...
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Originally Posted by ivan18
okey sorry MIKI for that.......I didn`r want to offend anyone. So what about the insurance on an SL500?????????

Please feel free to ask any question here, but you may not get an answer.

In my area the insurance cost for a SL500 is about $1,450 per year with a 1M umbrella policy. I also pay about $100 a year for tags and road tax.

Go here for average salary of SL owners. It will be close to a Cadillac XLR owner.

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/jo...=10722&src=vip
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Hmmm....I'm not 54 years old though...LOL. And in the US, a lot of people lease their cars either because they can deduct it from income tax or they want a new car every 3 years. So the income requirement can be lower than what the article is quoting because you're not financing the entire car. But, I would tend to think that most US SL owners will be at least in the $150k and above range.
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Originally Posted by jettie1767
Hmmm....I'm not 54 years old though...LOL. And in the US, a lot of people lease their cars either because they can deduct it from income tax or they want a new car every 3 years. So the income requirement can be lower than what the article is quoting because you're not financing the entire car. But, I would tend to think that most US SL owners will be at least in the $150k and above range.
I would think that would be the minimun as how could one afford the car and still have a sense of responsiblity to the needs of his/her family.
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Originally Posted by jettie1767
Hmmm....I'm not 54 years old though...LOL. And in the US, a lot of people lease their cars either because they can deduct it from income tax or they want a new car every 3 years. So the income requirement can be lower than what the article is quoting because you're not financing the entire car. But, I would tend to think that most US SL owners will be at least in the $150k and above range.
Jettie,

I love your color combination, especially the berry red interior. Could you please post some pictures of your car including several of the interior?

I'd love to see them.

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by jettie1767
Hmmm....I'm not 54 years old though...LOL. And in the US, a lot of people lease their cars either because they can deduct it from income tax or they want a new car every 3 years. So the income requirement can be lower than what the article is quoting because you're not financing the entire car. But, I would tend to think that most US SL owners will be at least in the $150k and above range.

I think those numbers are off. I am in my 30s. I know some folks that owns a SL500 with about 100K income, but they have eveything paid off and no kids.
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I posted pictures way back in July/August when I took delivery of my 55.

I also think that it's not only income that should be considered. A lot of people are either independently wealthy or are very assiduous savers. So, I wouldn't doubt seeing people drive around in a $100k+ car even though they may not have the income demographic that we associate with such a car.

BTW, I'm also in my 30s .
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Hi,
In my case in Saudi Arabia, I paid SAR 470,000 for my SL 500 W/AMG package + designo interior + panoramic roof+ many other options.
Saudi Arabian Riyal 470,000 = USD 125,333
keep in mind that the Tax was only 5% (Included in the above price).
I was told that I could have bought an SL 55 for this price from the US.
I did not go with that option even though I have lived in the states simply for the warranty issue (When the car is ordered from the local dealer, you get 3 years warranty. When you import a car to Saudi even if it's brand new, you'll only get 1 year manufacturer warranty and no 3 years dealer's).
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04' SL500 (R230), 00' S500, 04' E240, 02' Mini Cooper, 02' Lexus SC430, 02' Toyota Alphard
Good deal everywhere except Hong Kong, China and Singapore

In Hong Kong, a SL500 cost HK$ 1.5 million = US$200,000.
In China, a SL500 cost RMB$ 2.1 million = US$ 255,000.
In Singapore, a SL500 cost over US$ 330,000.

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