SL/R231: For those of you looking for a 2019 SL 450 with ABC
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I was surprised to see even (1) with ABC for sale, and absolutely 'shocked' to find (3) of these 'Unicorns' for sale now!....
Click on the links below to see the latest (2) listings!....
Note: both listings show pics of the ABC Buttons on the Center Console!...You can also see that both these cars have the optional Wood/Leather Steering Wheel as well!....
** 2nd of 3 - (Ohio) - Grey with Porcelain Interior - This one appears to have Magic Sky as well!...
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
** 3rd of 3 - (California) - Polar White with Porcelain Interior (Can't tell for sure if it has Magic Sky, but the price certainly indicates that it most likely does)...
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Last edited by bob55; Apr 7, 2020 at 08:16 PM.
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Well, that white one pretty much has every option. I wonder why the dealers won't order either of the two other whiter interiors...it's always Porcelain. Also, is it just me, or does the color of the Poplar on the steering wheel look darker than the dash...more like the color of Burl Walnut?
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Well, that white one pretty much has every option. I wonder why the dealers won't order either of the two other white interiors...it's always Porcelain. Also, is it just me, or does the color of the Poplar on the steering wheel look darker than the dash...more like the color of Burl Walnut?
Still a very nice car. Glad to see more well optioned cars
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Steering wheel is darker. It used to be very common to significant wood mismatches in the old days (strangely enough often on the highest-end 600 models). It happens rarely now. You could likely request the dealer to swap the wheel; they may make up some defect to process the swap under warranty.
Still a very nice car. Glad to see more well optioned cars
Still a very nice car. Glad to see more well optioned cars
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Steering wheel is darker. It used to be very common to significant wood mismatches in the old days (strangely enough often on the highest-end 600 models). It happens rarely now. You could likely request the dealer to swap the wheel; they may make up some defect to process the swap under warranty.
Still a very nice car. Glad to see more well optioned cars
Still a very nice car. Glad to see more well optioned cars
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I'm surprised that steering wheel even made it onto the car in the first place. What happened to "Mercedes Quality"? I wonder how much wiggle room they actually have in the price at a time like this. This car has options (B&O Sound, Magic Sky, Soft Close Doors, Illuminated Sills) that I would never have ordered and so am unwilling to pay for...part of the reason being that there are a couple of '17 SL 63 cream puffs available out there with similar equipment in the low-80-to-mid-90 k$ range. Yeah, I'd rather have a 450, but my personal situation dictates that at some point I may also have to consider depreciation...which is bound to be a bit less on a four-year-old 63 than on a brand new 450. That is, unless the dealer is willing to eat a meaningful amount of it up front.
There appears to be something wrong with every SL brought up no matter how it is configured.
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I'm surprised that steering wheel even made it onto the car in the first place. What happened to "Mercedes Quality"? I wonder how much wiggle room they actually have in the price at a time like this. This car has options (B&O Sound, Magic Sky, Soft Close Doors, Illuminated Sills) that I would never have ordered and so am unwilling to pay for...part of the reason being that there are a couple of '17 SL 63 cream puffs available out there with similar equipment in the low-80-to-mid-90 k$ range. Yeah, I'd rather have a 450, but my personal situation dictates that at some point I may also have to consider depreciation...which is bound to be a bit less on a four-year-old 63 than on a brand new 450. That is, unless the dealer is willing to eat a meaningful amount of it up front.
SL’s are also less likely to be heavily discounted before summer and with no successor in sight.
If you are cheap and want expensive options but don’t want to pay for them, you can only buy used. No alternative. They will not be given away.
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Every dealer wants to make a deal but at this point they will blow you off..MBFS has given them at least a 90 days payment reprieve on their inventory without repercussions. So no need to move cars at blow out prices. Good deals, sure. Plus with factories closed they will not be flooded with more inventory either.
SL’s are also less likely to be heavily discounted before summer and with no successor in sight...
SL’s are also less likely to be heavily discounted before summer and with no successor in sight...
Though I'm really not that cheap, there are a lot of expensive options that I don't want. Thanks in part to you guys, I'm sticking to the CPO route from here on out.
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Every dealer wants to make a deal but at this point they will blow you off..MBFS has given them at least a 90 days payment reprieve on their inventory without repercussions. So no need to move cars at blow out prices. Good deals, sure. Plus with factories closed they will not be flooded with more inventory either.
SL’s are also less likely to be heavily discounted before summer and with no successor in sight.
If you are cheap and want expensive options but don’t want to pay for them, you can only buy used. No alternative. They will not be given away.
SL’s are also less likely to be heavily discounted before summer and with no successor in sight.
If you are cheap and want expensive options but don’t want to pay for them, you can only buy used. No alternative. They will not be given away.
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Yes. I am certain they will. For one due to lowered interest rates and to create buyer incentives. Even though MBFS has helped dealers in lowering costs of inventory in the short terms, they still need to sell cars to make money. So they have to sweeten the pie.
What is uncertain is just how long the situation will persist and how deep/prolonged a recession will be.
What is different from all previous scenarios is that manufacturers never had a total shut down of their plants (nearly) everywhere. While bad this helps to minimize excess inventories.
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Every dealer wants to make a deal but at this point they will blow you off..MBFS has given them at least a 90 days payment reprieve on their inventory without repercussions. So no need to move cars at blow out prices. Good deals, sure. Plus with factories closed they will not be flooded with more inventory either.
SL’s are also less likely to be heavily discounted before summer and with no successor in sight.
If you are cheap and want expensive options but don’t want to pay for them, you can only buy used. No alternative. They will not be given away.
SL’s are also less likely to be heavily discounted before summer and with no successor in sight.
If you are cheap and want expensive options but don’t want to pay for them, you can only buy used. No alternative. They will not be given away.
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The UK has always been ridiculous with their discounts (in a good way for them).
I remember another UK member got a significant discount on a facelifted SL450 (maybe 20%) before that car was even available here in the US.
The Canadian market is somewhat the same way, AMG’s costs a fraction of what they are selling here.
I remember another UK member got a significant discount on a facelifted SL450 (maybe 20%) before that car was even available here in the US.
The Canadian market is somewhat the same way, AMG’s costs a fraction of what they are selling here.
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The UK has always been ridiculous with their discounts (in a good way for them).
I remember another UK member got a significant discount on a facelifted SL450 (maybe 20%) before that car was even available here in the US.
The Canadian market is somewhat the same way, AMG’s costs a fraction of what they are selling here.
I remember another UK member got a significant discount on a facelifted SL450 (maybe 20%) before that car was even available here in the US.
The Canadian market is somewhat the same way, AMG’s costs a fraction of what they are selling here.
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What is different from all previous scenarios is that manufacturers never had a total shut down of their plants (nearly) everywhere. While bad this helps to minimize excess inventories.[/QUOTE]
Any news/indications when MB will reopen the plants in Germany? I have an SL which was due to be built the first two weeks in April and delivered the end of April/first part of May. Looks like a June/July delivery now.....if then.
Any news/indications when MB will reopen the plants in Germany? I have an SL which was due to be built the first two weeks in April and delivered the end of April/first part of May. Looks like a June/July delivery now.....if then.
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No ABC on this one, but what an especially lovely Brilliant Blue/Porcelain Designo Edition of the SL 450 this one is!....
This has the Exclusive Nappa Porcelain Designo Interior and note that 1 of the 36 pics shows the Magic Sky Roof Option! Also has the unique exterior Designo Accents, (Chrome accents on lower grille, White Piano Lacquer trim to include the steering wheel). Finally ;checkout those expensive 10-spoke AMG 19/20 Forged Wheels, and not the Driver Assist Package is there as well!...
A rare find indeed!....
Certified Pre-owned with just 6551 miles and located in Pennsylvania.......
So are you still shopping for 'a very special 2017 CPO', Dr Manhattan?....
...... Might this one do?....
Click on the link below to view:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
This has the Exclusive Nappa Porcelain Designo Interior and note that 1 of the 36 pics shows the Magic Sky Roof Option! Also has the unique exterior Designo Accents, (Chrome accents on lower grille, White Piano Lacquer trim to include the steering wheel). Finally ;checkout those expensive 10-spoke AMG 19/20 Forged Wheels, and not the Driver Assist Package is there as well!...
A rare find indeed!....
Certified Pre-owned with just 6551 miles and located in Pennsylvania.......
So are you still shopping for 'a very special 2017 CPO', Dr Manhattan?....
...... Might this one do?....Click on the link below to view:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Last edited by bob55; Mar 31, 2020 at 09:49 PM.
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Though it lacks ABC like the other (3) posted earlier, it's certainly a very stunning 'special edition' isn't it?....
Just trying to find a bit more car 'beauty' to help ease the stress, depression, and boredom of this dreaded Covid-19 crisis which, sadly, isn't likely to end anytime soon!....
Listening to some good music also helps!....
Just trying to find a bit more car 'beauty' to help ease the stress, depression, and boredom of this dreaded Covid-19 crisis which, sadly, isn't likely to end anytime soon!....
Listening to some good music also helps!....
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Of course, there are some very nice SL 550's with ABC available as well, such as the (2) Silver 2017 models shown in the listings below!....The one in the first listing has just 4727 miles.....
So, are you really still searching for a 231 with all the right options, and at the right price, Dr Manhattan?....
Clearly, there are some excellent 231 choices available right now in both the 450 V6 and the 550 V8!....
The more powerful 550 Twin Turbo V8 remains the engine of choice for me, but as always, YMMV applies!.....
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
So, are you really still searching for a 231 with all the right options, and at the right price, Dr Manhattan?....
Clearly, there are some excellent 231 choices available right now in both the 450 V6 and the 550 V8!....
The more powerful 550 Twin Turbo V8 remains the engine of choice for me, but as always, YMMV applies!.....
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Last edited by bob55; Apr 1, 2020 at 10:12 AM.
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Point the car wheels exactly straight, and then disconnect the main battery & leave to sit for 10 mins, to ensure any airbag capacitor is discharged. Punch through both the side "dimples" in the leather and insert a flat bladed screwdriver to release the clips that retain the airbag module, unplug and remove. Undo the large torx bolt on the steering column, and mark the exact vertical location of the steering column with a marker. Pull off the old wheel and transfer the buttons and chrome trim to the replacement using a philips head screwdriver. Attach the replacement making sure that the steering column has not moved out of position, and tighten the steering column bolt firmly as per specification with a torque wrench. Plug in the airbag module, then insert it into the wheel until you hear a firm click.
Disclaimer: I do not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of this information. I accept no responsibility for any harm or damage that anyone using this information might incur. Should you wish to alter your car including safety systems, you do so entirely at your own risk. Before attempting any of this, consult a trained Mercedes-Benz technician and seek their advice. Should your country have legal requirements for steering wheels and/or airbags, it is your responsibility to maintain compliance with them.
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Yet another 'Unicorn' loaded with options. This 2019 SL 450 has ABC, Magic Sky Sky, Driver Assistance, P1 Pkg, Illuminated Sills, and Soft Close Doors.
- Designo Diamond White Exterior with Ginger Beige/Espresso Brown Nappa Leather and Designo Bamboo Trim!...
- The listing indicates this is a Florida Car with no accidents, and just 5706 miles!...
AVAILABLE FROM A 'MOTIVATED' OWNER/PRIVATE SELLER IN STUART, FLORIDA
Check it out below...The pics and Seller comments indicate this is a very clean, 'like new' car!
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Apparently more of these 'Unicorns' exist and are available for sale than we would have ever imagined!.
- Designo Diamond White Exterior with Ginger Beige/Espresso Brown Nappa Leather and Designo Bamboo Trim!...
- The listing indicates this is a Florida Car with no accidents, and just 5706 miles!...
AVAILABLE FROM A 'MOTIVATED' OWNER/PRIVATE SELLER IN STUART, FLORIDA
Check it out below...The pics and Seller comments indicate this is a very clean, 'like new' car!
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Apparently more of these 'Unicorns' exist and are available for sale than we would have ever imagined!.
Last edited by bob55; Apr 7, 2020 at 07:44 PM.
