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IHave a 2013 Mercedes-Benz SL 550. The wind deflector mesh is pulled out of the mountains so it’s loose. I was wanting to be able to reattach the mesh and was wondering if anyone has a link or an idea how to remove the window flecked her so I can work on it easily? And also is there when deflector mesh material anywhere I could buy?
IHave a 2013 Mercedes-Benz SL 550. The wind deflector mesh is pulled out of the mountains so it’s loose. I was wanting to be able to reattach the mesh and was wondering if anyone has a link or an idea how to remove the window flecked her so I can work on it easily? And also is there when deflector mesh material anywhere I could buy?
I have the same car in the same issue. Have you had any luck with a resolution to your problem?
if so I would like to know what you did. Thanks!
IHave a 2013 Mercedes-Benz SL 550. The wind deflector mesh is pulled out of the mountains so it’s loose. I was wanting to be able to reattach the mesh and was wondering if anyone has a link or an idea how to remove the window flecked her so I can work on it easily? And also is there when deflector mesh material anywhere I could buy?
Since this is one of the somewhat annoying & more common little issues with the R231’s
I’ve got one out of the car and decided to take some pictures of how they are failing (and a possible fix).
The mesh is typically failing by separating from the frame in the lower corners first (picture 1)
There is a small "rivet" in the corner of the mesh/fabric that slots into the frame of the wind deflector. (see picture 3 - circled in green)
It is held in position by a plastic bracket with a slotted, curved stainless spring creating two forked blades. (see picture 3, 4, 5&7)
Amazingly, this bracket is just RTV siliconed in place on the bottom of the corner trim. (see picture 5&6) Definitely a weak point in the design!
Typically this bracket will loosen, crack/break and release the flat fork blades of the spring. (picture 7)
This releases another sprung, flat & pinned bladed arm that is responsible for keeping the corner trim tight against the wind deflector frame. (circled in red) This bladed arm is what is pushes the mesh rivets out of the wind deflector frame slots when you lower it.
If yours has separated and fabric isn't torn, you may be able to re-hook it by partially lowering the wind deflector frame and working the rivet into your deflector frame.
Unfortunately this is probably a temporary fix, as it's typically a sign of that bracket failure. You can tell if your bracket has failed because the corner trim will be loose and lift by hand when the wind deflector is in the lowered position.
I'm thinking that these plastic brackets need 3M VHB tape vs a dab of silicone. Unfortunately when these small brackets fail, they are not available separately from Mercedes. You have to replace the WHOLE wind deflector. You must remove the whole wind deflector assembly to do this repair as the pins to release the corner trim can only be removed by having access to both sides in order to push the e ring clips in place. ☹️
These will be getting reinforced with the 3M High Bond Structural tape. It should reinforce the bracket and hold it down much better the the weak silicone used by MB.
This repair will probably work if your mesh isn’t ripped yet.
Last edited by crconsulting; 06-23-2022 at 05:34 PM.
Great write up, thanks. Was it difficult to get the frame out of the car?
I wouldn’t say it was difficult, just tedious. You have to take off the back & side of the interior panels to get to the fasteners.
Really the repair and sourcing the parts is the difficult part. I’m still considering what other modifications would make this more reliable.
The plastic part and how it’s held in are the issue. Plus buying a whole new air deflector for a $2.00 part seems wasteful.
I was considering 3D printing but that would make the part more brittle. Honestly, that’s a part that should probably be made out of aluminum….
There is a superseded (new design) part # from MB, but I have yet to see what and if those brackets (and how they are fastened) has been improved/modified
Thats the exact same part as the US powered wind deflector that has issues. Just with the newer superseded part number. It’s available in the US with that same part number. (which brings up the question of what was redesigned) https://www.mboemparts.com/v-2014-me...body--roll-bar
I’m assuming you were trying to point out this UK/EU Air Defector in the pictures below. Part number: 23186000749051 - Now showing discontinued ☹️
Unfortunately that solution probably is designed for the manual UK deflector (in below pics). The limiting factor is how the bottom of the US power shade’s fabric somewhat “floats” when you fold it. That particular fabric would have to include the rivets, (I posted picture’s in my post above). I would definitely CLARIFY with the vendor prior to ordering
especially with, as rmorin49 mentioned, the shipping cost.
Overall this design is a disappointment, and Gunther should be limited to two beers at the Hofbräuhaus for 6 months, at least
Last edited by crconsulting; 06-24-2022 at 06:28 PM.
I wouldn’t say it was difficult, just tedious. You have to take off the back & side of the interior panels to get to the fasteners.
Really the repair and sourcing the parts is the difficult part. I’m still considering what other modifications would make this more reliable.
The plastic part and how it’s held in are the issue. Plus buying a whole new air deflector for a $2.00 part seems wasteful.
I was considering 3D printing but that would make the part more brittle. Honestly, that’s a part that should probably be made out of aluminum….
There is a superseded (new design) part # from MB, but I have yet to see what and if those brackets (and how they are fastened) has been improved/modified
Thats the exact same part as the US powered wind deflector that has issues. Just with the newer superseded part number. It’s available in the US with that same part number. (which brings up the question of what was redesigned) https://www.mboemparts.com/v-2014-me...body--roll-bar
I’m assuming you were trying to point out this UK/EU Air Defector in the pictures below. Part number: 23186000749051 - Now showing discontinued ☹️
Unfortunately that solution probably is designed for the manual UK deflector (in below pics). The limiting factor is how the bottom of the US power shade’s fabric somewhat “floats” when you fold it. That particular fabric would have to include the rivets, (I posted picture’s in my post above). I would definitely CLARIFY with the vendor prior to ordering
especially with, as rmorin49 mentioned, the shipping cost.
Overall this design is a disappointment, and Gunther should be limited to two beers at the Hofbräuhaus for 6 months, at least
Could be the case the material Is only for the manual windscreen (default option for many countries). Sample pics were inconclusive.
The issue is that many parts are available as an assembly-only option. Difficult to imagine but standard fare with low production cars.
I remember my wife hitting a cone that made it onto the highway on a construction site. $9k later, the small damage was fixed.
One part was the right headlight. There was a small separate plastic clip on the lower front which by any estimate would be a $5 part. Not available by itself; took a $2k+ headlight replacement.
The new headlight wasn’t even used as techs have experienced coding issues during replacement and don’t install unless required. They just pulled the clip and left the headlight (which I then obtained).
Do the interior panels snap in and out, just need to pry them off? Did you come up with a repair? Can the plastic part be reenforced with some epoxy? I have the same in my 2015 sl400
Do the interior panels snap in and out, just need to pry them off?
Yes, you have to take off the side panels first, before you can remove the rear panel.
Originally Posted by Sean H
Did you come up with a repair? Can the plastic part be reenforced with some epoxy?
Once the black plastic bracket (pictured above) is broken, it will probably be too late. They aren’t available separately from the dealer ☹️
I reinforced the unbroken, good brackets. (I sourced one from a used wind deflector/shield and my existing bracket that was still good) by using 3M VHB tape to bond the bracket to the chrome end trim piece. It’s more solid than siliconing just the corners, like the factory did. It should keep them from breaking (hopefully) in the future.
I...............The plastic part and how it’s held in are the issue. Plus buying a whole new air deflector for a $2.00 part seems wasteful.
I was considering 3D printing but that would make the part more brittle. Honestly, that’s a part that should probably be made out of aluminum….
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I think that you could have that 3d printed. These days, there is a vast array of materials available for 3D printing including ABS, Nylon, PETG and many others.
Very easy to design in CAD (which is where it would originally have been designed). Trick is that a CAD user would need a good drawing with dimensions or the actual part to measure and copy.
There are many 3d print companies that will produce one in the material of your choice.
I think that you could have that 3d printed. These days, there is a vast array of materials available for 3D printing including ABS, Nylon, PETG and many others.
Very easy to design in CAD (which is where it would originally have been designed). Trick is that a CAD user would need a good drawing with dimensions or the actual part to measure and copy.
There are many 3d print companies that will produce one in the material of your choice.
No doubt it's doable, but it comes down to time invested vs return. It's still a lot of work to get that part produced. Probably cost more, time wise and prototyping costs, than just buying a new (or used) wind screen. Luckily, I was able to find a used one with a broken bracket on the opposite side of the one I needed.
But I do still have two broken brackets if I get bored and decide to make some aluminum chips on my mill.
Originally Posted by JettaRed
Would that be two beers per meal, two beers per day, or only two beers per 6 months? Seems the latter would be cruel and unusual.!
We definitely want poor Gunther functional. That would be two beers AFTER work, daily, and not for breakfast either!
No doubt it's doable, but it comes down to time invested vs return. It's still a lot of work to get that part produced. Probably cost more, time wise and prototyping costs, than just buying a new (or used) wind screen. ................etc
Very little time needed.
I do a lot of 3d printing and have replicated many items from the original (and I’m a CAD hobbyist - not super skilled). If a person competent with CAD has the part in their hands the could knock out a replica design in hours. I could do it but it will take me days. The printing is straight forward.
However, if you are lucky enough to get a scrap unit that can be scavenged then I agree that is the way to go. However R231 scrap parts must be few and far between.
Yes, you have to take off the side panels first, before you can remove the rear panel.
Once the black plastic bracket (pictured above) is broken, it will probably be too late. They aren’t available separately from the dealer ☹️
I reinforced the unbroken, good brackets. (I sourced one from a used wind deflector/shield and my existing bracket that was still good) by using 3M VHB tape to bond the bracket to the chrome end trim piece. It’s more solid than siliconing just the corners, like the factory did. It should keep them from breaking (hopefully) in the future.
Would you have a video showing details instruction on removal of the entire wind stop
thanks
This repair was for a friend, so my focus was on getting the job out the door and getting their car back. When I get in the "zone" and channel my inner German, I rarely stop for interruptions until the job is finished.
I have another repair coming up in the new year, and will try to take more pictures.
10-22-2020, 02:48 PM
