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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 11:47 AM
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it was mentioned in the original postings. Where I am they usually agree to a diminished value if there is frame damage. I guess I could check since nothing has been resolved yet.
I successfully filed a DV claim when my 2 week old Audi A4 was sideswiped. I filed against the other driver's insurance company, USAA. At the time I also had USAA insurance. I also live in MD.

​​​​​i was required to provide a detailed description of the damage. I used a body shop recommended by USAA that I had used in the past. It is a small family owned shop.

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I successfully filed a DV claim when my 2 week old Audi A4 was sideswiped. I filed against the other driver's insurance company, USAA. At the time I also had USAA insurance. I also live in MD.

​​​​​i was required to provide a detailed description of the damage. I used a body shop recommended by USAA that I had used in the past. It is a small family owned shop.
I’m curious how the amount of the DV claim was arrived at? Is there an objective way to determine that?
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 12:17 PM
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I’m curious how the amount of the DV claim was arrived at? Is there an objective way to determine that?
I believe that an argument can be made that damage to a car that is considered to be an enthusiast type car, is more detrimental to the resale value than it would be to your average sedan or SUV. So many folks who buy things like 911’s, Corvettes, Ferraris and SL’s tend to be WAY more picky about the history of such vehicles. I also believe that if a really nice, all original SL is damaged in an accident, that a loss of value, equal to 10% of the current, retail resale value would not be out of line.

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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 12:51 PM
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I’m curious how the amount of the DV claim was arrived at? Is there an objective way to determine that?
I wish I knew. I challenged the amount of my claim but USAA was not willing to adjust it. It was a little less than half of the amount charged by the body shop to complete the repair.

I traded the A4 for an A6 immediately after receiving the check for the DV. The dealer immediately could see it had been repaired by looking in the trunk but said it would not prevent them from certifying and selling the car as a CPO. It was only about 2 months old and had less than 2K miles. As you can imagine I took a bath on the trade deal but we were disappointed in the A4 and very happy we traded for an A6. I'm too old to fret about things like this.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 03:11 PM
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As of this morning my insurance is still waiting for the next update from the other guys insurance companies. They are still trying to figure out who/which insurance companiy is responsible for the cost to repair my car.

Stay tuned...

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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 03:41 PM
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As of this morning my insurance is still waiting for the next update from the other guys insurance companies. They are still trying toward out who/which insurance companies is responsible for the cost to repair my car.

Stay tuned...
What companies are involved?
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 04:22 PM
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USAA -and his Employer. (Can’t remember the name, but my insurance guy knows it)

His employer rented the car for him that hit mine. The debate (between them not us) is if his work insurance is paying for my damages, or USAA(his personal insurance) is paying.

That is all I know for now.


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What companies are involved?

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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 05:36 PM
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What companies are involved?
I had USAA auto insurance for 43 years. Their customer service was excellent but they may try to use non OEM parts. I switched to Erie 2 years ago to get better rates. I hope you get your situation resolved soon.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ThatsMyDawg
As of this morning my insurance is still waiting for the next update from the other guys insurance companies. They are still trying to figure out who/which insurance companiy is responsible for the cost to repair my car.

Stay tuned...
Honestly, it’s starting to sound like BS to me. Your insurance should pay for your repairs and recover from the other guy. Additionally, they should get your deductible covered, as well.

My daughter had Esurance until she needed to use it. They gave her so much crap, she dropped them and went with USAA (since I was military) even though they were a little more expensive. But they end of year rebate made up for the higher monthly bill.

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I'm not using my own insurance and then letting them go after the other guy. I did that on the last accident. It is NOT guaranteed that they recover your deductible (they did recover the last one) and there is a possibility of them raising your rates by doing it that way. I will just let this play out for now.

Originally Posted by JettaRed
Honestly, it’s starting to sound like BS to me. Your insurance should pay for your repairs and recover from the other guy. Additionally, they should get your deductible recovered, as well.

My daughter had Esurance until she needed to use it. They gave her so much crap, she dropped them and went with USAA (since I was military) even though they were a little more expensive. But they end of year rebate made up for the higher monthly bill.
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I'm not using my own insurance and then letting them go after the other guy. I did that on the last accident. It is NOT guaranteed that they recover your deductible (they did recover the last one) and there is a possibility of them raising your rates by doing it that way. I will just let this play out for now.
I understand. And each insurance company is different. But because this was totally not your fault, your insurance company has no reason to, nor should they, raise YOUR rates.

I don't know what your deductible is, but I keep mine low because the difference in premium is negligible. I carry $250 deductible for collision. Increasing it to $500 saves me $6 per month, and to $1000 would save me $15 per month (or 50 cents per day). So, if for some reason I can't recover my deductible, it may be wrong but it won't break the bank. On the other hand, paying $1000 for someone else's fault would make me sad (and **** me off).
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My deductible is $500. It took them (my insurance) a bit to recover it last time. The thought of me possibly giving away $500 doesn’t sit well with me.

I agree they should not raise my rates, but those companies are strange and I feel they do what they want.

I’m gonna hold out for a while.


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I understand. And each insurance company is different. But because this was totally not your fault, your insurance company has no reason to, nor should they, raise YOUR rates.

I don't know what your deductible is, but I keep mine low because the difference in premium is negligible. I carry $250 deductible for collision. Increasing it to $500 saves me $6 per month, and to $1000 would save me $15 per month (or 50 cents per day). So, if for some reason I can't recover my deductible, it may be wrong but it won't break the bank. On the other hand, paying $1000 for someone else's fault would make me sad (and **** me off).

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Old Sep 16, 2023 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ThatsMyDawg
Update-
Seems the guy actually does have honor after all. He admitted hitting my car to his insurance. His personal insurance left me a voice mail today basically saying he admitted to being at fault, so there is no issue there at all they said. They are just trying to figure out who is paying for my car and a rental. I called them back and they repeated the same.

The rental car was provided by his work, so they (the insurances companies) are trying to figure out should the work insurance policy cover my damages, or should his personal policy cover them. I don't care as long as one of them is paying. His personal insurance is who called me. The guy who hit me texted me trying to pay me directly, but that changed soon as I told him the cost and that I needed a rental. He continues to apologize and just wants this to be resolved.

Just a waiting game now, but glad it just comes down to who is paying and not he said she said.
No disrespect, but you don't know if it will come down to "he said, she said". Hold that thought until you see the settlement offer. It's why the normal process is to collect from your insurance (JettaRed), assuming you and they agree on the repair and other costs, and then let your carrier argue (subrogate) with either or both the others. To put your mind at ease, ask your carrier if your rates will change since you were not responsible.
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I get your point, however we have video of the accident now. If he somehow backtracks and lies it will go very bad for him.


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No disrespect, but you don't know if it will come down to "he said, she said". Hold that thought until you see the settlement offer. It's why the normal process is to collect from your insurance (JettaRed), assuming you and they agree on the repair and other costs, and then let your carrier argue (subrogate) with either or both the others. To put your mind at ease, ask your carrier if your rates will change since you were not responsible.
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I had USAA auto insurance for 43 years. Their customer service was excellent but they may try to use non OEM parts. I switched to Erie 2 years ago to get better rates. I hope you get your situation resolved soon.
I’ve been with USAA since 1978, so if my math is right, so were you. I’ve thought about switching from time to time and found (1) I have never had a problem getting any claim resolved to my satisfaction, and (2) the annual member distribution (call it a rebate) made up for any price difference compared to another insurance carrier.
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I’ve been with USAA since 1978, so if my math is right, so were you. I’ve thought about switching from time to time and found (1) I have never had a problem getting any claim resolved to my satisfaction, and (2) the annual member distribution (call it a rebate) made up for any price difference compared to another insurance carrier.
I kept a small personal property policy so I still qualify for the annual rebate. Between my auto, homeowner and umbrella policy I am saving well over $1000 with Erie. I keep checking every year to see if USAA can come close to Erie and they cannot.
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I kept a small personal property policy so I still qualify for the annual rebate. Between my auto, homeowner and umbrella policy I am saving well over $1000 with Erie. I keep checking every year to see if USAA can come close to Erie and they cannot.
How have your claims been with Erie?
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How have your claims been with Erie?
Only one claim with Erie. I'm in my third year with Erie, only claim was a windshield for our X5. Used Safelite, Erie paid for an OEM windshield. Cost me $150. Safelite installed new wiper blades and recalibrated all my cameras.
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Hopefully it wasn't an eye doctor! Sorry, had to! Hope you get it fixed as good as new.
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Hopefully it wasn't an eye doctor! ...
Or a proctologist. "Hey Doc, is that your finger?"
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Pediatrician.

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Hopefully it wasn't an eye doctor!
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Or a proctologist.
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I get your point, however we have video of the accident now. If he somehow backtracks and lies it will go very bad for him.
What's the latest on getting your car repaired? Let us know who you end up using for the repair. I can recommend a great local shop that I have used several times. They resprayed my front fascia and matched the diamond white paint perfectly.
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Pediatrician.
I think I have seen him.


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