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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 08:21 AM
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Eco Off™ OBD Programmer for Mercedes-Benz: Save last start/stop setting. ECO-V2

I ordered one from Mid City Engineering and it arrived yesterday. It works! I thought the stupid ECO mode was the most annoying thing on an otherwise fun-to-drive car, my 2019 SL550. It was worth $169 ($154 plus shipping) to turn it off and have it stay off.

https://www.midcityengineering.com/p...s-benz-eco-v2/

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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 08:30 AM
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I drive in sport mode in the city, or when merging on the highway and, or passing/overtaking someone on the highway. I switch it back off for cruising to save gas and for a more mellow driving experience. I do a lot of highway miles weekly and prefer the eco mode when doing that. I do like sport mode for all my city driving though...
Eventually I plan on some purchases from Mid City. I have had my eye on them for a few years..
Originally Posted by Bill Julyan

Eco Off™ OBD Programmer for Mercedes-Benz: Save last start/stop setting. ECO-V2

I ordered one from Mid City Engineering and it arrived yesterday. It works! I thought the stupid ECO mode was the most annoying thing on an otherwise fun-to-drive car, my 2019 SL550. It was worth $169 ($154 plus shipping) to turn it off and have it stay off.

https://www.midcityengineering.com/p...s-benz-eco-v2/
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 12:46 PM
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I wonder if the op meant turning off stop start rather than eco mode?
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 01:16 PM
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I assumed he meant the default drive mode. I guess we will see soon enough.

Originally Posted by ToeKneee
I wonder if the op meant turning off stop start rather than eco mode?
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ToeKneee
I wonder if the op meant turning off stop start rather than eco mode?

Yes, I meant the ECO stop/start system...that shuts the engine off when you are stopped at a traffic light. I know you could turn it off temporarily, but I wanted to turn it off and keep it off. This device lets me do that.
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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 06:03 PM
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I also can't stand eco mode but simply pushing a button upon start up, doesn't seem so severe. I get in, I start car, press the eco off and also put the car into sport. This to me is just what I have to do, like putting on my seatbelt. Everyone has their pet peeves, but pushing a button just doesn't seem like such a big deal.
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Old Jul 29, 2023 | 08:44 AM
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I have the road top remote roof opening device which gives me the option to permanently turn off the stop start system, amongst other things. Great bit of kit!
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Old Jul 30, 2023 | 08:11 AM
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I have the Mid City Engineering programmer, as well. It works perfectly for me. They were out of stock for a while. Glad to see they are available again.
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Old Jul 30, 2023 | 10:06 AM
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Here’s a good read on programing ECO mode changes via Xentry for anyone interested in this modification:

https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...o-dummies.html

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Old Jul 30, 2023 | 10:04 PM
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@Bill Julyan so when you cycle around while underway from Sport, Sport+, etc. to Comfort, the on/off feature stays off as well? As someone mentioned above, turning it off after a start is not a big deal. But when I cycle thru the dive modes back to C, the on/off feature is back on. That's a PITA.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 08:38 AM
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Here’s a good read on programing ECO mode changes via Xentry for anyone interested in this modification:

https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...o-dummies.html
Ha! That's why I bought the Mid City Electonics programming/coding module for $160.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 08:44 AM
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@Bill Julyan so when you cycle around while underway from Sport, Sport+, etc. to Comfort, the on/off feature stays off as well? As someone mentioned above, turning it off after a start is not a big deal. But when I cycle thru the dive modes back to C, the on/off feature is back on. That's a PITA.
I don't cycle the driving mode, but I'll try to remember to try it next time I drive. I'm pretty sure the ECO stop/start will stay off, but I'll try to confirm it.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 09:20 AM
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Eco start/stop will stay off no matter how you cycle the driving modes. I switch between modes al the time and Eco remains off.. The only way to turn start /stop back on after turning it off is to turn the car off and back on, or hit the button. I am not speaking of programing, or some kinda of software, etc.

Originally Posted by Bill Julyan
I don't cycle the driving mode, but I'll try to remember to try it next time I drive. I'm pretty sure the ECO stop/start will stay off, but I'll try to confirm it.
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The ECO Start/Stop rarely works on my 2014 C350, but works consistently on the SL. All sorts of conditions need to be met (engine temp, battery level, etc.) for it to work. My problem is that it makes me very nervous when I am at a cross-street and need to pull out into traffic on a busy road. Though the car has always started instantaneously, I don't want to experience the time it doesn't. I'm not sure how much fuel this feature saves, or how good it is for the environment, but I have always seen it as a gimmick to make people feel good about driving a legacy vehicle.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 10:08 AM
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Mine works well, but I never ever use it anymore. The thing is when the engine come on it is a loud, or not smooth start from eco off. When I have had loaner cars (all newer models) the eco on does it very smoothly and almost quietly. My Wifes BMW SUV comes back on very quietly too, but it is a much newer vehicle than mine.

The few times I have forgotten to turn the eco off and my SL while stopped at a light restarted I have never liked the way it sounded. It has never not started, or given me a feeing of worry that it would not, but I hate the sound Like I said, I never use it unless I forget to turn it off.




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The ECO Start/Stop rarely works on my 2014 C350, but works consistently on the SL. All sorts of conditions need to be met (engine temp, battery level, etc.) for it to work. My problem is that it makes me very nervous when I am at a cross-street and need to pull out into traffic on a busy road. Though the car has always started instantaneously, I don't want to experience the time it doesn't. I'm not sure how much fuel this feature saves, or how good it is for the environment, but I have always seen it as a gimmick to make people feel good about driving a legacy vehicle.
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BenxNinja, I filled out our form today, and received the email, but I still don't know the cost of buying the deal...?
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 11:21 PM
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I'm not sure I understand your comment:

Originally Posted by ThatsMyDawg
The only way to turn start /stop back on after turning it off is to turn the car off and back on, or hit the button.
If I pay to have the stop/start feature turned off, I don't ever want is back on... In my opinion,iIt's a ridiculous feature and hard on the equipment.
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Old Aug 1, 2023 | 05:39 AM
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My reply was to Bill. He said he didn’t know if the start/stop turns back on if you cycle through the modes. (sport, etc.)It does not.

Not speaking about if one would use some outside equipment to turn it off.


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I'm not sure I understand your comment:



If I pay to have the stop/start feature turned off, I don't ever want is back on... In my opinion,iIt's a ridiculous feature and hard on the equipment.
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... My problem is that it makes me very nervous when I am at a cross-street and need to pull out into traffic on a busy road. ....
That (pulling out into traffic on a busy road) is what convinced me I needed to find a fix for ECO Start/Stop. Sure, it seems simple to turn if off when you're starting your car at home; but the distractions in backing out of Costco or grocery store parking lots caused me to sometimes forget it and then find myself pulling out from a side street into traffic onto a busy road with my engine hesitating. I absolutely hated that feature and consider the $169 I paid for a permanent fix to be well worth it.

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Old Aug 1, 2023 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rfb3
... If I pay to have the stop/start feature turned off, I don't ever want is back on... In my opinion,iIt's a ridiculous feature and hard on the equipment.
With the Mid City Engineering fix, the ECO stop/start "feature" will stay off unless you turn it back on yourself. It "remembers" the last setting when you start your car, so if you had it off when you parked and shut the engine off, it will stay off when you start the engine again.
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@Bill Julyan, thanks Bill!

Now I'm considering the BenzNinja thing (if I can get a price). I am in IT and fully capable of doing some of this coding myself. I can see other options that might be fun to do. I am concerned it may affect my extended warranty I've purchased.
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