SL/R232: is new SL63 .....slow?
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OK you get the last word. Oh wait, this is posted after your last post. Hmm, when will it end? Go for it one more time....Please and then we'll move on.
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Unofficial 0-60 Test
Redline Reviews tested the SL63 at 0-60 in 3.12 seconds with the top down and two passengers. The SL55 was able to do 0-60 in 3.66 in damp conditions.
Test at 17:55
Test at 17:55
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I'm a little late to an older thread but I'll chime in with my input.
I have had the chance to street and track drive the new SL 55 and 63. I certainly would not call it "slow" and it does an amazing job on the race track for something most would expect to be a GT car. The SL 63 will not be the top of the line model for long. The rear section of the subframe has a cutaway in place for the purpose of the same electric rear motor that the AMG GT 63s E Performance uses. Expect the same 831hp offered to the top of the line GT in the future.
I have had the chance to street and track drive the new SL 55 and 63. I certainly would not call it "slow" and it does an amazing job on the race track for something most would expect to be a GT car. The SL 63 will not be the top of the line model for long. The rear section of the subframe has a cutaway in place for the purpose of the same electric rear motor that the AMG GT 63s E Performance uses. Expect the same 831hp offered to the top of the line GT in the future.
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Redline Reviews tested the SL63 at 0-60 in 3.12 seconds with the top down and two passengers. The SL55 was able to do 0-60 in 3.66 in damp conditions.
Test at 17:55
https://youtu.be/0dR1rbZ1WGE
Test at 17:55
https://youtu.be/0dR1rbZ1WGE
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MB is actually directly targeting 911 Cab buyers with the new SL. So much so that they had one for comparison at the hands-on preview of the car. The new model is significantly more hard edged than any previous generations. That may be off putting to some, but the car handles sports car and GT duties quite well.
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Thank you! You've said it all -- covered all bases and hit a home run. My sentiments exactly.
You rang? Just what the world needs, is yet another car that is way too fast and too quick for the streets and highways in 99% of the world. The SL--for many generations of the marque--has been a 2-seat, luxurious, convertible cruiser. Prior to this latest R232, there were already way more than enough sporty type cars that could do 0 to 60 in the 3 second range and top out at over 150mph, including a fleet of AMG GT models already being sold under the banner of the 3-pointed star. So WHY did we need yet another one at the expense of losing something that was unique? I've said this before, but MB should have kept the SL in house, not given it to AMG, kept what was great about the last generation SL and improved everything else. They could have done it. They should have done it. The result would have been truly amazing. Instead, we have an AMG GT/911 look alike wannabe, that has lost the two seater design, gained two ridiculous rear "seats," gained an even more ridiculous, removable wind screen, lost the truly amazing and relatively unique, retractable hardtop and in the process, lost its soul. The SL is dead. Of course, this is all in my humble opinion. Time for a photo of a real SL.
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I'm a little late to an older thread but I'll chime in with my input.
I have had the chance to street and track drive the new SL 55 and 63. I certainly would not call it "slow" and it does an amazing job on the race track for something most would expect to be a GT car. The SL 63 will not be the top of the line model for long. The rear section of the subframe has a cutaway in place for the purpose of the same electric rear motor that the AMG GT 63s E Performance uses. Expect the same 831hp offered to the top of the line GT in the future.
I have had the chance to street and track drive the new SL 55 and 63. I certainly would not call it "slow" and it does an amazing job on the race track for something most would expect to be a GT car. The SL 63 will not be the top of the line model for long. The rear section of the subframe has a cutaway in place for the purpose of the same electric rear motor that the AMG GT 63s E Performance uses. Expect the same 831hp offered to the top of the line GT in the future.
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You rang? Just what the world needs, is yet another car that is way too fast and too quick for the streets and highways in 99% of the world. The SL--for many generations of the marque--has been a 2-seat, luxurious, convertible cruiser. Prior to this latest R232, there were already way more than enough sporty type cars that could do 0 to 60 in the 3 second range and top out at over 150mph, including a fleet of AMG GT models already being sold under the banner of the 3-pointed star. So WHY did we need yet another one at the expense of losing something that was unique? I've said this before, but MB should have kept the SL in house, not given it to AMG, kept what was great about the last generation SL and improved everything else. They could have done it. They should have done it. The result would have been truly amazing. Instead, we have an AMG GT/911 look alike wannabe, that has lost the two seater design, gained two ridiculous rear "seats," gained an even more ridiculous, removable wind screen, lost the truly amazing and relatively unique, retractable hardtop and in the process, lost its soul. The SL is dead. Of course, this is all in my humble opinion. Time for a photo of a real SL.
We have had quite a few SL’s and enjoyed all of them for different reasons. The last one was technically the best and stands as one of the most reliable MB’s in recent history. Incredibly versatile and practical but unfortunately not a looker.
That’s ok to say even though we owned 3 of them. The facelift improved things quite a bit but the new one definitely looks better than that.
Eager to drive the car and see how it stacks up to our very unpractical but epic AMG GTC
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This whole thing about keeping it the way it was ignores the fact that the R231 never sold well. It was time for a change. I also don't see how a car can be too fast or too quick when every Mercedes is quick and fast and this SL has AWD which keep things under control vs a R231 whose rear end can break loose under power, especially in the wet. If anything the new SL is safer. Mercedes has to go where the market and buyers are not where 10 guys are complaining about.
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You rang? Just what the world needs, is yet another car that is way too fast and too quick for the streets and highways in 99% of the world. The SL--for many generations of the marque--has been a 2-seat, luxurious, convertible cruiser. Prior to this latest R232, there were already way more than enough sporty type cars that could do 0 to 60 in the 3 second range and top out at over 150mph, including a fleet of AMG GT models already being sold under the banner of the 3-pointed star. So WHY did we need yet another one at the expense of losing something that was unique? I've said this before, but MB should have kept the SL in house, not given it to AMG, kept what was great about the last generation SL and improved everything else. They could have done it. They should have done it. The result would have been truly amazing. Instead, we have an AMG GT/911 look alike wannabe, that has lost the two seater design, gained two ridiculous rear "seats," gained an even more ridiculous, removable wind screen, lost the truly amazing and relatively unique, retractable hardtop and in the process, lost its soul. The SL is dead. Of course, this is all in my humble opinion. Time for a photo of a real SL.
Good to hear. I've been reading a lot of the reviews and am very eager to test out the new hydraulic suspension which has received unanimous praise from all the journalists who were able to drive the SL last month. I have a feeling the 55 will actually be the sweet spot similar to Autoblog's conclusion, as its more than enough power while still providing a much more athletic and dynamic drive than the prior generation and plenty of comfort and luxuries.
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This whole thing about keeping it the way it was ignores the fact that the R231 never sold well. It was time for a change. I also don't see how a car can be too fast or too quick when every Mercedes is quick and fast and this SL has AWD which keep things under control vs a R231 whose rear end can break loose under power, especially in the wet. If anything the new SL is safer. Mercedes has to go where the market and buyers are not where 10 guys are complaining about.
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I didn’t say they should have kept it “the way it was.” As I opined, they should have kept what was great about the last SL and improved everything else. The R231 was far from a perfect car, but did have many wonderful attributes. But MB washed their hands of the fabled cruiser and gave it to AMG who threw the baby out with the bath water. I’m sure the R232 will have much to like, but to those of us who have driven SL’s for decades—my first was a 1972 and I’ve owned eight—this new car is not worthy of the legacy, it’s yet another huge compromise.
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On that same token, there are many that think the last 30+ years of the SL were not deserving of the Sportlicht nameplate. The model has had slowing sales since the early 2000's, clearly the previous recipe wasn't working for most buyers. Think back a few years and recall how many Porsche 911s you saw versus SL models when hanging around affluent areas. Now MB is chasing a piece of that pie.
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911 cab 4 curb weight 3614
https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/9...a-4-cabriolet/
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The SL has also always been heavier than a 911 for decades, the AMG GT though is closer to the 911's weight, although still a bit heavier.
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Even by 911 standards that heavy for a 911. A 911 Cab use to weigh just a little over 3,000lbs. Pretty much all 911's have gained about 200-300 lbs over the last ten years.
The SL has also always been heavier than a 911 for decades, the AMG GT though is closer to the 911's weight, although still a bit heavier.
The SL has also always been heavier than a 911 for decades, the AMG GT though is closer to the 911's weight, although still a bit heavier.
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Worse yet, SL actually stands for Super Leicht, not Sport Leicht and super light this car is not. Same concern with the upcoming ePerformance model. This will add yet significantly more weight and the extra HP is only available for short periods of time. We know that the GT 63 ePerformance clocks in at a whopping 5,247 lbs so I expect at least another 150lbs for that model.
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