SL/R232: SL63 remote start oddity
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SL63 remote start oddity
I have only used the remote start feature on my SL63 through the app a few times since it just got cold here so the windows and top were all up. I always leave the top down if it's not raining and above 60* out.
It starts up fine, but when I go to the car to get in the doors are locked and no matter which method I use to unlock the doors, the engine stops. That seems very weird to me and inconvenient. One time it also made me dig my key out of my pocket and put it in the tray before it would start. Any thoughts on my doing something wrong here?
Also, on a side note my M8 Comp will start easily with the windows and top down which is helpful when it's hot and you want to give the AC a head start. The engine does not stop either with the car sensing the key when close then unlocking the doors. MB seems to have an illogical point of view on this feature.
It starts up fine, but when I go to the car to get in the doors are locked and no matter which method I use to unlock the doors, the engine stops. That seems very weird to me and inconvenient. One time it also made me dig my key out of my pocket and put it in the tray before it would start. Any thoughts on my doing something wrong here?
Also, on a side note my M8 Comp will start easily with the windows and top down which is helpful when it's hot and you want to give the AC a head start. The engine does not stop either with the car sensing the key when close then unlocking the doors. MB seems to have an illogical point of view on this feature.
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I have only used the remote start feature on my SL63 through the app a few times since it just got cold here so the windows and top were all up. I always leave the top down if it's not raining and above 60* out.
It starts up fine, but when I go to the car to get in the doors are locked and no matter which method I use to unlock the doors, the engine stops. That seems very weird to me and inconvenient. One time it also made me dig my key out of my pocket and put it in the tray before it would start. Any thoughts on my doing something wrong here?
Also, on a side note my M8 Comp will start easily with the windows and top down which is helpful when it's hot and you want to give the AC a head start. The engine does not stop either with the car sensing the key when close then unlocking the doors. MB seems to have an illogical point of view on this feature.
It starts up fine, but when I go to the car to get in the doors are locked and no matter which method I use to unlock the doors, the engine stops. That seems very weird to me and inconvenient. One time it also made me dig my key out of my pocket and put it in the tray before it would start. Any thoughts on my doing something wrong here?
Also, on a side note my M8 Comp will start easily with the windows and top down which is helpful when it's hot and you want to give the AC a head start. The engine does not stop either with the car sensing the key when close then unlocking the doors. MB seems to have an illogical point of view on this feature.
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BMW definitely does it better. We have remote start in the GLE and the M8. We are now getting the first snow and the M8 is cozy warmth remote start as it heats the seats and steering wheel as well and it does indeed not stop the engine on unlock. This is how MB remote start always worked. Does the SL heat the seats as well? Other GLE only heats the car...
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BMW definitely does it better. We have remote start in the GLE and the M8. We are now getting the first snow and the M8 is cozy warmth remote start as it heats the seats and steering wheel as well and it does indeed not stop the engine on unlock. This is how MB remote start always worked. Does the SL heat the seats as well? Other GLE only heats the car...
Another thing I notice with remote start on an MB is that when you turn off climate control (specifically A/C) before exiting the vehicle, it remains off and remote start doesn't intelligently turn it back on in a hot summer day, I found that decision strange if the sole purpose of remote start is to regulate the cabin's temperature before the driver or passenger enters the vehicle, is that happening to your GLE as well?
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The SL does heat and cool the seats, but in most cases it is not able to be automated. However, there are times the seat heat/cool choice you last made comes on when you start the car. Not always though so it must have to meet some algorithm criteria.
On the SL vs M8 automation, I think BMW has quite a few more comfort preset options that you can set such as the seats/wheel heating comes on below a defined temperature outside. Same with seat cooling if the outside temp reaches a criteria you can set. I haven't seen any of that flexibility in the SL yet.
The inability to remote start the SL with the top down and turning the car off when you unlock it after a remote start seems too safety sensitive. MB goes a little too far in its nanny state mentality I think.
On the SL vs M8 automation, I think BMW has quite a few more comfort preset options that you can set such as the seats/wheel heating comes on below a defined temperature outside. Same with seat cooling if the outside temp reaches a criteria you can set. I haven't seen any of that flexibility in the SL yet.
The inability to remote start the SL with the top down and turning the car off when you unlock it after a remote start seems too safety sensitive. MB goes a little too far in its nanny state mentality I think.
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I guess Mercedes quote "safety reasons" to not keep the engine running after opening the door so a thief can't drive the vehicle away after getting in the vehicle.
Another thing I notice with remote start on an MB is that when you turn off climate control (specifically A/C) before exiting the vehicle, it remains off and remote start doesn't intelligently turn it back on in a hot summer day, I found that decision strange if the sole purpose of remote start is to regulate the cabin's temperature before the driver or passenger enters the vehicle, is that happening to your GLE as well?
Another thing I notice with remote start on an MB is that when you turn off climate control (specifically A/C) before exiting the vehicle, it remains off and remote start doesn't intelligently turn it back on in a hot summer day, I found that decision strange if the sole purpose of remote start is to regulate the cabin's temperature before the driver or passenger enters the vehicle, is that happening to your GLE as well?
For comparison, many AMG's have no heated steering wheel at all, no matter the price. Especially if an Alcantara steering wheel is involved.
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FWIW, BMW keeps the engine running but you can't drive off with a remote started car. Need to step on the brake and press the start button again which actually authorizes the car. This only works if you have your key, digital key (card) or phone on you. So the process works the same. If I would nitpick, the BMW doesn't heat the passenger heat to the dislike of my wife but it's much better than a cold seats/steering wheel. As John stated, BMW has many more climate comfort options that automatically kick in at certain temps.
For comparison, many AMG's have no heated steering wheel at all, no matter the price. Especially if an Alcantara steering wheel is involved.
For comparison, many AMG's have no heated steering wheel at all, no matter the price. Especially if an Alcantara steering wheel is involved.
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That certainly sounds like a better approach but I wonder if a thief can bypass that somehow and simply drive the car when the engine running. That said though, it doesn't take much to bypass a Mercedes without the engine running once they are in the car so ya BMW wins here with the implementation.
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My early oddities are that the dealer cant tell me and the manual is unclear as to whether my new SL63 has a lithium battery or not --manual speaks specifically to a mat battery--which for me if its true is great cause its parked for eons sometimes--like 2 mos in the winter--my lithium battery previous sl's and GTs had to be trickle charged so if the battery when I hear is not lithium--I am happy because I have a parking spot at the condo with no ac access,
The other fresh oddity i have with side by side parking with my SL and 2021 GLS 63 is I cant go down with both keys in my pocket -say to use the GLS-once I am close to the vehicles--like 10' the SL automatically unlocks and the handles come out--easy answer is only to take the keys of the car I am using--Apparently its a problem/issue unique to the SL door locks and to all new Mercedes electric vehicles--apparently when you may at sometime own two Merc electrics side by side both cars will unlock bet only the car you have the key for will start (according to dealer)
I do love amongst other things like the ride compared to the GT and the smaller HID display--far less distracting in size but still very readable-learn more every day.
The other fresh oddity i have with side by side parking with my SL and 2021 GLS 63 is I cant go down with both keys in my pocket -say to use the GLS-once I am close to the vehicles--like 10' the SL automatically unlocks and the handles come out--easy answer is only to take the keys of the car I am using--Apparently its a problem/issue unique to the SL door locks and to all new Mercedes electric vehicles--apparently when you may at sometime own two Merc electrics side by side both cars will unlock bet only the car you have the key for will start (according to dealer)
I do love amongst other things like the ride compared to the GT and the smaller HID display--far less distracting in size but still very readable-learn more every day.
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My early oddities are that the dealer cant tell me and the manual is unclear as to whether my new SL63 has a lithium battery or not --manual speaks specifically to a mat battery--which for me if its true is great cause its parked for eons sometimes--like 2 mos in the winter--my lithium battery previous sl's and GTs had to be trickle charged so if the battery when I hear is not lithium--I am happy because I have a parking spot at the condo with no ac access,
The other fresh oddity i have with side by side parking with my SL and 2021 GLS 63 is I cant go down with both keys in my pocket -say to use the GLS-once I am close to the vehicles--like 10' the SL automatically unlocks and the handles come out--easy answer is only to take the keys of the car I am using--Apparently its a problem/issue unique to the SL door locks and to all new Mercedes electric vehicles--apparently when you may at sometime own two Merc electrics side by side both cars will unlock bet only the car you have the key for will start (according to dealer)
I do love amongst other things like the ride compared to the GT and the smaller HID display--far less distracting in size but still very readable-learn more every day.
The other fresh oddity i have with side by side parking with my SL and 2021 GLS 63 is I cant go down with both keys in my pocket -say to use the GLS-once I am close to the vehicles--like 10' the SL automatically unlocks and the handles come out--easy answer is only to take the keys of the car I am using--Apparently its a problem/issue unique to the SL door locks and to all new Mercedes electric vehicles--apparently when you may at sometime own two Merc electrics side by side both cars will unlock bet only the car you have the key for will start (according to dealer)
I do love amongst other things like the ride compared to the GT and the smaller HID display--far less distracting in size but still very readable-learn more every day.
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Add my new SL63 to the list. Picked it up from the dealer on Monday and drove it straight to the detailer for PPF and ceramic coating. Started getting the now infamous critical starter battery charge messages the next day.
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Have you tried to charge the battery directly? I got a call from my detailer who is finishing the Xpel/tint and he said they had a hard time charging the battery and had to use a boost to get it started; he was wondering if they could charge the battery directly. He put in a call to the dealer and they are getting back to him. For some reason I think this is going to be an ongoing problem. More than a coincidence that so many of our SL's have this issue
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Be sure to take it to the dealership. The more Germany gets bombarded with this issue the sooner they are likely to find a solution.
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Good to hear. Thanks for your reply. I was initially worried they can somehow bypass that lock and still put it in gear but sounds like BMW has a robust system to prevent that.
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Each of my past couple AMGs with Mercedes Me starting shut off when you unlock . Being a little too careful I say--I have as well a 2022 Jeep Gladiator with remote start.
The engine will NOT shut off when you unlock to get in but the vehicle will NOT shift into gear unless you have their smart key AND push the start button first.
Now that makes more sense to me. IMHO
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The engine will NOT shut off when you unlock to get in but the vehicle will NOT shift into gear unless you have their smart key AND push the start button first.
Now that makes more sense to me. IMHO
JP
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Each of my past couple AMGs with Mercedes Me starting shut off when you unlock . Being a little too careful I say--I have as well a 2022 Jeep Gladiator with remote start.
The engine will NOT shut off when you unlock to get in but the vehicle will NOT shift into gear unless you have their smart key AND push the start button first.
Now that makes more sense to me. IMHO
JP
The engine will NOT shut off when you unlock to get in but the vehicle will NOT shift into gear unless you have their smart key AND push the start button first.
Now that makes more sense to me. IMHO
JP
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I would add that my M8 remote starts with the top and windows down and the SL63 won't remote without everything locked up. On a hot summer day, the M8 remote starting the AC when I left the top down is very helpful and, as mentioned, it doesn't shut off when you get in the car. MB seems to have to much nanny-state technology built in or its own good, our good actually. Too protective in too many areas.
