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Old 03-09-2023, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by alaverdy
Its not that bad, polish it and will be good

thats why only matte colors and no complains
Well that might suffice for you, but I’ll be damned to pay $150,000.00 for a new S class and have to buff out a half-assed clear-coat application. Matte finishes also have their own issues when not applied/finished properly.
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Well that might suffice for you, but I’ll be damned to pay $150,000.00 for a new S class and have to buff out a half-assed clear-coat application. Matte finishes also have their own issues when not applied/finished properly.
every single car gonna have good/bad, never had any issue with my matte colors, instead of waisting your time on paint, take the car to speedway and enjoy full of it, anyway you cant do anything its not a shoes to return it,
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Originally Posted by alaverdy
every single car gonna have good/bad, never had any issue with my matte colors, instead of waisting your time on paint, take the car to speedway and enjoy full of it, anyway you cant do anything its not a shoes to return it,
I don’t think so … but to each his own
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Its not that bad, polish it and will be good

thats why only matte colors and no complains
Yes, but you loose a layer of the protective coat, cost/time/effort, and there’s a chance you may burn the paint or strip pass the gloss coat.
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If it’s really bad, I suggest you get your dealer to buff it out before collecting the car for the first time.
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Yes, but you loose a layer of the protective coat, cost/time/effort, and there’s a chance you may burn the paint or strip pass the gloss coat.
when you drive 1/4 milion dollar car you should careless, and dont waist your time on stupid paint
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[QUOTE=alaverdy;8736282]Its not that bad, polish it and will be good…………../QUOTE]

This is the attitude that MB is hoping the vast majority of their customers have, so they can continue to deliver shoddy products. There is no way I would accept that paint job.
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Its not that bad, polish it and will be good…………../QUOTE]

This is the attitude that MB is hoping the vast majority of their customers have, so they can continue to deliver shoddy products. There is no way I would accept that paint job.
You essentially echo what I stated earlier…the consumer needs to start pushing back and on many levels.
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You essentially echo what I stated earlier…the consumer needs to start pushing back and on many levels.
Unfortunately humans can't unite for much of anything
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Unfortunately humans can't unite for much of anything
Yep, so many re brainwashed by their choice of what "news" they wish to believe and much of it as we're now discovering was never even legitimate news to begin with . Great way to start a civil war or insurrection attempt.

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I was at a dealership yesterday for service and they have an SL63 in the showroom. It has a fairly prominent case of orange peel on the silver paint. Sticker price $200,400.00.
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Originally Posted by Sunbeltgolfer11
I was at a dealership yesterday for service and they have an SL63 in the showroom. It has a fairly prominent case of orange peel on the silver paint. Sticker price $200,400.00.
Was it in the same areas or more widespread? Did you happen to snap a pic?
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Was it in the same areas or more widespread? Did you happen to snap a pic?
The most noticeable was on the sides at the top of the door and just below the trunk line. I'm probably the only person left on Earth that doesn't carry a cell phone with me, so sorry no pics.
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The most noticeable was on the sides at the top of the door and just below the trunk line. I'm probably the only person left on Earth that doesn't carry a cell phone with me, so sorry no pics.
Upper doors are the most noticeable areas on what I saw as well.

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It was not necessary to move around or look for the proper lighting to see it, either. Quite obvious just walking past the car, even though it is a failrly light silver color.
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Originally Posted by Sunbeltgolfer11
It was not necessary to move around or look for the proper lighting to see it, either. Quite obvious just walking past the car, even though it is a failrly light silver color.
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Agree... saddening for sure at this caliber, hopefully things improve...
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It was not necessary to move around or look for the proper lighting to see it, either. Quite obvious just walking past the car, even though it is a failrly light silver color.
Beech Mountain baby NC!!!
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In my experience, about half the cars I’ve bought in the past decade have needed paint correction. My SL63 had microscratches all over; someone likely wiped it down with a dry cloth at some point. A full paint correction fixed it and my dealer paid for it with no hesitation. I added a ceramic coating and it looks superb.

Paradoxically, the best paint I’ve had on new cars recently was on a Ford Raptor and a Subaru Outback. A 911 GT3 was stunningly perfect while a Taycan had “worms” all over from the white plastic paint protection being applied to the car too soon after painting.

Orange peel on new cars is partly intentional to make it easier to hide and fix imperfections. It’s in the clearcoat and is easy to correct.
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In my experience, about half the cars I’ve bought in the past decade have needed paint correction. My SL63 had microscratches all over; someone likely wiped it down with a dry cloth at some point. A full paint correction fixed it and my dealer paid for it with no hesitation. I added a ceramic coating and it looks superb.

Paradoxically, the best paint I’ve had on new cars recently was on a Ford Raptor and a Subaru Outback. A 911 GT3 was stunningly perfect while a Taycan had “worms” all over from the white plastic paint protection being applied to the car too soon after painting.

Orange peel on new cars is partly intentional to make it easier to hide and fix imperfections. It’s in the clearcoat and is easy to correct.
My new 2021 E63s was delivered to me with micro scratches as well. I had mine corrected by someone other than the dealer as I had lost confidence in them by that point. However, on a car like the one I saw, at $200,400.00 it really is unacceptable that it wasn;t corrected by the dealer before going on the showroom floor. This is the same dealer I ordered my E63s from, by the way. I guess my expectations are a bit misplaced in these strange times.
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Originally Posted by Sunbeltgolfer11
My new 2021 E63s was delivered to me with micro scratches as well. I had mine corrected by someone other than the dealer as I had lost confidence in them by that point. However, on a car like the one I saw, at $200,400.00 it really is unacceptable that it wasn;t corrected by the dealer before going on the showroom floor. This is the same dealer I ordered my E63s from, by the way. I guess my expectations are a bit misplaced in these strange times.
To be fair to my dealer, they noted the microscratches at delivery and they suggested a paint correction firm. That firm was one I'd worked with before with great results.

I know that dealer quality varies, but I've been fortunate to buy from Hendrick Porsche, Mercedes, and Subaru dealerships in Durham NC, where quality and services standards are consistently very high. It all comes down to corporate culture, as is always the case regardless of industry. As an example, the CPO on a GT3RS I bought in 2019 was **** retentive beyond belief, down to replacing a front spoiler with a minuscule scratch. underrneath.My local Ford dealership is also fanatical about service quality.
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Even though the SL’s are not the most expensive in the MB line, they are, in a way, “halo” cars. They draw attention and are ogled by those who aspire to own one. They are proud banners for the the 3-Pointed Star. They tend not to be daily transportation, but prized toys—for lack of a better word—always polished & cared for, usually to a much higher degree than one’s daily driver vehicle. MB should know this and should take extra care in the finishing of these cars. Once completed, should an issue like orange peel be found, it should be corrected at the factory before seeing the light of day. Obviously, zero imperfections should be the goal for a company with a heritage like MB, but while we might excuse something like orange peel on a CLA, an SL should be virtually flawless.

As someone who has owned 60 brand new cars, 17 of which have been MB, I have been getting the feeling that the old guard in Stuttgart are gone and the younger folks taking their place just don’t seen to care as much about the legacy they have been entrusted with. I also believe that the dealers are overwhelmed and are sweeping issues under the rug.
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Even though the SL’s are not the most expensive in the MB line, they are, in a way, “halo” cars. They draw attention and are ogled by those who aspire to own one. They are proud banners for the the 3-Pointed Star. They tend not to be daily transportation, but prized toys—for lack of a better word—always polished & cared for, usually to a much higher degree than one’s daily driver vehicle. MB should know this and should take extra care in the finishing of these cars. Once completed, should an issue like orange peel be found, it should be corrected at the factory before seeing the light of day. Obviously, zero imperfections should be the goal for a company with a heritage like MB, but while we might excuse something like orange peel on a CLA, an SL should be virtually flawless.

As someone who has owned 60 brand new cars, 17 of which have been MB, I have been getting the feeling that the old guard in Stuttgart are gone and the younger folks taking their place just don’t seen to care as much about the legacy they have been entrusted with. I also believe that the dealers are overwhelmed and are sweeping issues under the rug.
Since robots are doing the painting, either there's a bug in the application process or the there's an issue with finishing between/after coats. Nonetheless, the QC needed isn’t happening here and there's no excuse for that.

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