SL-Class (R232) Discussion on the 2022 R232

SL/R232: MB of Hoffman has 10+ Buyback/Lemon SLs

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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 08:55 PM
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Possibly it is based upon the dealers invoice.
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Old Apr 4, 2025 | 07:50 PM
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I *think* the tariff is applied to the price MBUSA imports the car at and not MSRP. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
This is correct. The importer pays the tax on the value of the import. They can then either raise the price of the good they sell to the retail vendor or keep the MSRP the same and add a line item for the tariff. When the terrifying item is shown all the way through the marketplace, it allows the consumer to understand this is applied Cost from the government, not the business.

This is how it worked last time I was buying product imported from China during momos first term. Some distributors just raise their prices and others kept the price the same promising to go back to the old pricing when the tariff would drop. Most distributors wanted that tariff line item to be shown versus people thinking the price just raised.

Importer - pays tariffs on their import bill of lading. Either raises base price or adds in tho the invoice a tariff surcharge.

2nd tier - manufacturer or retail vendor. Pays the importer the cost of the original good plus the tariff in total, regardless of how the total is displayed. This could be a one on one negotiation for each next tier customer dependent on their scale and volume or it could be a blanket company policy.

consumer - pays an increased msrp, or pays the same MSRP with a tariff surcharge.

The original importer is responsible, but sometimes they ask the rest of the supply chain to help with the cost so you might see a shared tariff credit from either the importer or the next tier of distribution.
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Old Apr 4, 2025 | 09:57 PM
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Thanks for breaking down tariffs.
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Old Apr 10, 2026 | 10:29 PM
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I assume these buyback are not leaseable then since everyone is only talking about finance/buying.
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Old Apr 11, 2026 | 03:26 AM
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SL Buybacks

Originally Posted by Diego Reynoso
I assume these buyback are not leaseable then since everyone is only talking about finance/buying.
Incredibly there are even 2025 model SLs' that are being bought back. Mercedes Leasing/Financing is taking them back & putting them out on dealer only auctions. You see this on any car fax report but it does not list them as buy backs. Dealers buying them & offering them for sale are not letting the customer know they are buy backs. But a simple VIN Seach on Google AI Mode shows the cars as buy backs. There have been over 7,000 SL Buy Backs including the SL55 & SL63 models from 2022 models to 2025 models. All for the same reasons. Dealers reselling the buy backs are asking top dollar & even at MSRP or more.

Buyer Beware.
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Old Apr 11, 2026 | 03:28 AM
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Do not trust Car Fax to show a Buy Back. Search the VIN on Google AI Mode.
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Old Apr 11, 2026 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BusinessService
Incredibly there are even 2025 model SLs' that are being bought back. Mercedes Leasing/Financing is taking them back & putting them out on dealer only auctions. You see this on any car fax report but it does not list them as buy backs. Dealers buying them & offering them for sale are not letting the customer know they are buy backs. But a simple VIN Seach on Google AI Mode shows the cars as buy backs. There have been over 7,000 SL Buy Backs including the SL55 & SL63 models from 2022 models to 2025 models. All for the same reasons. Dealers reselling the buy backs are asking top dollar & even at MSRP or more.

Buyer Beware.
But are they leasable? I wouldn't own it, so I wouldn't care about loss of value, especially if fixed. Now it is annoying if not truly fixed and lease is in shop all the time to only be bought back again, but that's a risk worth if dealer is giving you 30% off on a lemon lease
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Old Apr 11, 2026 | 02:48 PM
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The risk is you worry if it will start in the morning or leave you stranded. That & your spending alot of time at the shop getting it repaired repeatedly.
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I knew the R232 had myriad issues ( that's why I refrained from placing an order)...........but 7000 buy backs doesn't seem possible. How many R232 have sold??
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Old Apr 12, 2026 | 08:08 PM
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How would one know if major improvements were made to the 2026 SL 55. I wasn't aware they couldn''t be ordered.
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How would one know if major improvements were made to the 2026 SL 55. I wasn't aware they couldn''t be ordered.
We have an allocation for SL55 a couple months ago that’s been tagged a 2027.
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Old Apr 13, 2026 | 10:59 AM
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Thank you for info. Read on here somewhere 25 orders had been refunded -- maybe all were for the 2026.
Info out about the 2027 SL? Might need to call local dealer. Was headed that way Saturday and read about all the buy backs changed my mind. Dealer seems to want to unload the ltd. couple available (2026) but not to fond of the red interior - tired of red. We probably have the same MB dealer as you - neighboring state.
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I have been looking into these 22 SL 63 that have lemon titles and speaking to lots of dealer and people in the car business. The majority of the buybacks were because of the battery issue, however I was also told that if you pay attention, many of these cars are coming from states where lemon buybacks are very easy for the consumer. We all know the SL has had some of the worst depreciation that we've seen in this segment, so it's not far fetched to say that many owners took advantage of this by having their cars lemoned in order to get out of it with minimal or at the very least less of a loss than they would have had they sold it themselves.

I'm not overly concerned as many of these 2022 models still have factory warranty as many were not delivered until late 2022 or even early 2023. Also, between new batteries and software updates, I think you should be okay...

Remember, other countries like Canada and Europe do not have Lemon Law the way the USA does...so these exact cars exist in places like Canada & Europe and you would never know that they spend more than 30 days at the dealership getting fixed, or you would know by checking the service records but the vehicle would not be "branded" as such and it would have the same value as anywhere else.

just some thoughts for y'all to consider..
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