SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: SL55 is no Sports Car
10-09-2008, 08:56 AM
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10-09-2008, 12:35 PM
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My car is no longer under warranty; what is a fair price to pay for a pump replacement? Thanks again for the info...
10-09-2008, 02:18 PM
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Do you notice, some days your car feels invincible, other days it feels sluggish. I to have had the same experience, but I had to ease of and pull back. If I leave my SL55 for about a week then go for a long slow drive
it starts performing like s**t. On the occasion I had to pull back I had been driving slowly for about half hour. After I got passed this car I thrashed it for ten minutes and the whole car came alive. I have had my SL55 nearly 4 years
so I know when it's not going well. To keep the engine fresh and the brakes
working and not corroding you must spend a few minutes thrashing it everytime you use it, that's what I do now.
Surely the i/c pump fitted by MB to use in all countries and temps should
be adequate and should last at least 5 years or more with low mileage.
it starts performing like s**t. On the occasion I had to pull back I had been driving slowly for about half hour. After I got passed this car I thrashed it for ten minutes and the whole car came alive. I have had my SL55 nearly 4 years
so I know when it's not going well. To keep the engine fresh and the brakes
working and not corroding you must spend a few minutes thrashing it everytime you use it, that's what I do now.
Surely the i/c pump fitted by MB to use in all countries and temps should
be adequate and should last at least 5 years or more with low mileage.
10-09-2008, 02:27 PM
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2003 E55 & 2014 GL550
Surely the i/c pump fitted by MB to use in all countries and temps should
be adequate and should last at least 5 years or more with low mileage
be adequate and should last at least 5 years or more with low mileage
Horrific design that fails nearly 90+% of the time.
He has classic IC pump problems. That or he was beating it hard and then asked it for more and she went limp. Happens a lot without cooling mods.
10-09-2008, 02:29 PM
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Do you notice, some days your car feels invincible, other days it feels sluggish. I to have had the same experience, but I had to ease of and pull back. If I leave my SL55 for about a week then go for a long slow drive
it starts performing like s**t. On the occasion I had to pull back I had been driving slowly for about half hour. After I got passed this car I thrashed it for ten minutes and the whole car came alive. I have had my SL55 nearly 4 years
so I know when it's not going well. To keep the engine fresh and the brakes
working and not corroding you must spend a few minutes thrashing it everytime you use it, that's what I do now.
Surely the i/c pump fitted by MB to use in all countries and temps should
be adequate and should last at least 5 years or more with low mileage.
it starts performing like s**t. On the occasion I had to pull back I had been driving slowly for about half hour. After I got passed this car I thrashed it for ten minutes and the whole car came alive. I have had my SL55 nearly 4 years
so I know when it's not going well. To keep the engine fresh and the brakes
working and not corroding you must spend a few minutes thrashing it everytime you use it, that's what I do now.
Surely the i/c pump fitted by MB to use in all countries and temps should
be adequate and should last at least 5 years or more with low mileage.
Can't wait to get home from this 5 day biz trip I am on to get her back out of the garage!!!
10-10-2008, 05:23 AM
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I agree, I recently came back from 2500 miles in Germany driving my 996 turbo at speeds up to 165mph and the car is transformed, really blown away the cob-webs. I'm sure the SL55 is just the same. Sadly, for most places, driving at high speed just isn't an option.
10-10-2008, 09:02 AM
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man i could only dream of roads like that!!!
10-10-2008, 09:09 AM
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You got it, I have been to Germany a few times, not only can you drive
quickly the quality of their driving leaves the UK standing.
Every day on the way to work it's 50-60mph if your lucky and when somebody
pulls over another idiot pulls out in front of you. Try that in GERMANY, also
try hogging the fast lane in Italy.
All these performance cars have to be driven hard from time to time, otherwise you'll be caught with your trousers down.
quickly the quality of their driving leaves the UK standing.
Every day on the way to work it's 50-60mph if your lucky and when somebody
pulls over another idiot pulls out in front of you. Try that in GERMANY, also
try hogging the fast lane in Italy.
All these performance cars have to be driven hard from time to time, otherwise you'll be caught with your trousers down.
10-10-2008, 09:37 AM
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Of course, not every road is like that, but when you see the diagonal black stripe in a white circle and the road ahead is clear, you know you're in for a treat.
There's a new Autobahn, the A71 which seems to go from nowhere to nowhere and was pretty much deserted on the Sunday afternoon I drove it. 30 minutes high speed, about 20 minutes at 50 mph through a succession of tunnels - good to take a break, but boy does it seem slow - and then 30 minutes more high speed.
Great fun!
There's a new Autobahn, the A71 which seems to go from nowhere to nowhere and was pretty much deserted on the Sunday afternoon I drove it. 30 minutes high speed, about 20 minutes at 50 mph through a succession of tunnels - good to take a break, but boy does it seem slow - and then 30 minutes more high speed.
Great fun!
10-10-2008, 10:02 AM
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Of course, not every road is like that, but when you see the diagonal black stripe in a white circle and the road ahead is clear, you know you're in for a treat.
There's a new Autobahn, the A71 which seems to go from nowhere to nowhere and was pretty much deserted on the Sunday afternoon I drove it. 30 minutes high speed, about 20 minutes at 50 mph through a succession of tunnels - good to take a break, but boy does it seem slow - and then 30 minutes more high speed.
Great fun!
There's a new Autobahn, the A71 which seems to go from nowhere to nowhere and was pretty much deserted on the Sunday afternoon I drove it. 30 minutes high speed, about 20 minutes at 50 mph through a succession of tunnels - good to take a break, but boy does it seem slow - and then 30 minutes more high speed.
Great fun!
The roads in the UK are choking to death. When you get a clear road to get your foot down your never quite sure if the guy your going to overtake won't pull out when you could be doing 100 plus,that just doesn't happen in Germany, and of course there are mobile speed cameras ever where. They should at least raise the speed limit at night!! Soon owning a fast car will be for looks only.
I think it's time for a business trip to Europe...
10-10-2008, 05:31 PM
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Well I found out the answers to two of my questions. The same IC pump is used in both the stock 55 and 600. In addition, the pump Renntech offers is used for the 55, 65 and 600.
On a separate note, the throttle response in my 600 was feeling a bit sluggish, so yesterday I did the "ECU reset" that was described on the boards last year. It worked wonders, the car responds much faster. For those who don't know about it, here are the instructions as described by Jakpro:
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position. (two clicks)
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
BlueSL, give this a try if you haven't already... I would like to hear your thoughts.
On a separate note, the throttle response in my 600 was feeling a bit sluggish, so yesterday I did the "ECU reset" that was described on the boards last year. It worked wonders, the car responds much faster. For those who don't know about it, here are the instructions as described by Jakpro:
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position. (two clicks)
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
BlueSL, give this a try if you haven't already... I would like to hear your thoughts.
10-13-2008, 09:49 AM
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Well I found out the answers to two of my questions. The same IC pump is used in both the stock 55 and 600. In addition, the pump Renntech offers is used for the 55, 65 and 600.
On a separate note, the throttle response in my 600 was feeling a bit sluggish, so yesterday I did the "ECU reset" that was described on the boards last year. It worked wonders, the car responds much faster. For those who don't know about it, here are the instructions as described by Jakpro:
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position. (two clicks)
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
BlueSL, give this a try if you haven't already... I would like to hear your thoughts.
On a separate note, the throttle response in my 600 was feeling a bit sluggish, so yesterday I did the "ECU reset" that was described on the boards last year. It worked wonders, the car responds much faster. For those who don't know about it, here are the instructions as described by Jakpro:
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position. (two clicks)
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
BlueSL, give this a try if you haven't already... I would like to hear your thoughts.
10-14-2008, 12:43 PM
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How could 493bhp/1955kg be faster than 420bhp/1530kg?
If you think otherwise, you're trying to re-write the laws of physics.
If you think otherwise, you're trying to re-write the laws of physics.
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10-14-2008, 11:59 PM
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Well I found out the answers to two of my questions. The same IC pump is used in both the stock 55 and 600. In addition, the pump Renntech offers is used for the 55, 65 and 600.
On a separate note, the throttle response in my 600 was feeling a bit sluggish, so yesterday I did the "ECU reset" that was described on the boards last year. It worked wonders, the car responds much faster. For those who don't know about it, here are the instructions as described by Jakpro:
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position. (two clicks)
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
BlueSL, give this a try if you haven't already... I would like to hear your thoughts.
On a separate note, the throttle response in my 600 was feeling a bit sluggish, so yesterday I did the "ECU reset" that was described on the boards last year. It worked wonders, the car responds much faster. For those who don't know about it, here are the instructions as described by Jakpro:
1. Turn the ignition key to the on (not start) position. (two clicks)
2. Press the gas pedal to the floor and hold for five seconds.
3. Turn the key to the "off" position (don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.
4. Wait at least two minutes for ECU to reset.
BlueSL, give this a try if you haven't already... I would like to hear your thoughts.
I did go through this process this evening, and I did notice that during the reset process the small yellow indicator light showing the car was in "park" stayed illuminated for about two minutes.
10-15-2008, 12:00 AM
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Ignoring friction and air resistance, the power an engine puts out translates into kinetic energy, 0.5 * mass * velocity squared. Divide by mass and the speed achieved is increases with the power to weigh ratio.
It sounds like the SL63 is a harder edged driving machine, but still hampered by the extra weight. If you want sports car performance, the first thing to do is the shed those extra pounds.
10-15-2008, 12:19 AM
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10-15-2008, 12:34 AM
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Yes you can. I normally do it to my brothers CLS 500.
After you do it go on an EMPTY street in Mexico and turn off ESP and just hit the gas. Even the 500 will have a little bit of a kick if you mess with the steering wheel enough.
After you do it go on an EMPTY street in Mexico and turn off ESP and just hit the gas. Even the 500 will have a little bit of a kick if you mess with the steering wheel enough.
10-15-2008, 08:10 AM
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to better illustrate- imagine a race from 260 - on. acceleration rate is so negligible that weight differences (again- we talk about say 500 pounds) are irrelevant. my personal experience is that at 60 any real-world weight difference becomes irrelevant handicap and as speed climbs it truly disappears from the acceleration equation. now ofcourse the larger the weight handicap the later it disappears, but you catch my drift.
and regarding the tank- if it is geared properly it might actually surprise you. ofcourse not against an f1 car, but overall. unfortunately a typical tank has 2300-2500 rpms redline and gearing is very unfavorable
How could 493bhp/1955kg be faster than 420bhp/1530kg?
alex
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10-15-2008, 01:39 PM
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do not take my statement out of context. ofcourse a heavier car will accelerate slower than a lighter car if everything else is the same. all i am saying is that in the real world with say 500 pounds of difference from a 60-ish roll-on acceleration rate is so relatively low that weight plays diminished role and hp/tq to the ground (read gearing) has the biggest impact.
to better illustrate- imagine a race from 260 - on. acceleration rate is so negligible that weight differences (again- we talk about say 500 pounds) are irrelevant. my personal experience is that at 60 any real-world weight difference becomes irrelevant handicap and as speed climbs it truly disappears from the acceleration equation. now ofcourse the larger the weight handicap the later it disappears, but you catch my drift.
and regarding the tank- if it is geared properly it might actually surprise you. ofcourse not against an f1 car, but overall. unfortunately a typical tank has 2300-2500 rpms redline and gearing is very unfavorable
and more thing - if you knew enough about vehicle dynamics you would never ask that question. at least not in that form.
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to better illustrate- imagine a race from 260 - on. acceleration rate is so negligible that weight differences (again- we talk about say 500 pounds) are irrelevant. my personal experience is that at 60 any real-world weight difference becomes irrelevant handicap and as speed climbs it truly disappears from the acceleration equation. now ofcourse the larger the weight handicap the later it disappears, but you catch my drift.
and regarding the tank- if it is geared properly it might actually surprise you. ofcourse not against an f1 car, but overall. unfortunately a typical tank has 2300-2500 rpms redline and gearing is very unfavorable
and more thing - if you knew enough about vehicle dynamics you would never ask that question. at least not in that form.
alex
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Getting back to my original premise, if I define a sports car as one which accelerates quickly, stops quickly and changes direction quickly while keeping the driver involved and in touch with all that's going on, the SL55 fails to deliver. It's a fast and luxurious touring coupe to be sure and will out-drag many things away from a stop light. However, in the world I inhabit, there's more fun to be had than that.
10-17-2008, 04:33 PM
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NO it doesn't.
You've just made the most important statement there. As YOU define a sports car. I suggest most of the others you come across would beg to differ.
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