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May want to test-drive a new AM....
Test-drove a DB9 for 50mis or so back in ?'05.....IMO, one of least impressive $100K+ cars on planet in terms of perf/dynamics/ergonomics/quality of materials/safety/daily-useability.....perhaps a car to buy some engineering-clueless, aspirational brand-oriented wife/nanny, etc who views cars as part of her tacky costume jewelry....
Have always been mystified why cos. like AM/B/L/Audi/BMW, etc get so much positive press, yet, when test-driven by even a mediocre but jaded driver, so obviously struggle w/basics like tq/smoothness/advcd gearboxes/steering/brakes/safety/ergonomics/high-quality interior materials, etc etc.....awful engineering wrapped in an aspirational brand....but would guess smartest engineers have chosen to work for (or start) SiliconValley tech cos. for past 10-20yrs, so ranks of talented engineers at auto cos. are prob fairly sparse at this stage....and oligopolized by AMG, Ferrari and Porsche.....
Test-drove a DB9 for 50mis or so back in ?'05.....IMO, one of least impressive $100K+ cars on planet in terms of perf/dynamics/ergonomics/quality of materials/safety/daily-useability.....perhaps a car to buy some engineering-clueless, aspirational brand-oriented wife/nanny, etc who views cars as part of her tacky costume jewelry....
Have always been mystified why cos. like AM/B/L/Audi/BMW, etc get so much positive press, yet, when test-driven by even a mediocre but jaded driver, so obviously struggle w/basics like tq/smoothness/advcd gearboxes/steering/brakes/safety/ergonomics/high-quality interior materials, etc etc.....awful engineering wrapped in an aspirational brand....but would guess smartest engineers have chosen to work for (or start) SiliconValley tech cos. for past 10-20yrs, so ranks of talented engineers at auto cos. are prob fairly sparse at this stage....and oligopolized by AMG, Ferrari and Porsche.....
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May want to test-drive a new AM....
Test-drove a DB9 for 50mis or so back in ?'05.....IMO, one of least impressive $100K+ cars on planet in terms of perf/dynamics/ergonomics/quality of materials/safety/daily-useability.....perhaps a car to buy some engineering-clueless, aspirational brand-oriented wife/nanny, etc who views cars as part of her tacky costume jewelry....
Have always been mystified why cos. like AM/B/L/Audi/BMW, etc get so much positive press, yet, when test-driven by even a mediocre but jaded driver, so obviously struggle w/basics like tq/smoothness/advcd gearboxes/steering/brakes/safety/ergonomics/high-quality interior materials, etc etc.....awful engineering wrapped in an aspirational brand....but would guess smartest engineers have chosen to work for (or start) SiliconValley tech cos. for past 10-20yrs, so ranks of talented engineers at auto cos. are prob fairly sparse at this stage....and oligopolized by AMG, Ferrari and Porsche.....
Test-drove a DB9 for 50mis or so back in ?'05.....IMO, one of least impressive $100K+ cars on planet in terms of perf/dynamics/ergonomics/quality of materials/safety/daily-useability.....perhaps a car to buy some engineering-clueless, aspirational brand-oriented wife/nanny, etc who views cars as part of her tacky costume jewelry....
Have always been mystified why cos. like AM/B/L/Audi/BMW, etc get so much positive press, yet, when test-driven by even a mediocre but jaded driver, so obviously struggle w/basics like tq/smoothness/advcd gearboxes/steering/brakes/safety/ergonomics/high-quality interior materials, etc etc.....awful engineering wrapped in an aspirational brand....but would guess smartest engineers have chosen to work for (or start) SiliconValley tech cos. for past 10-20yrs, so ranks of talented engineers at auto cos. are prob fairly sparse at this stage....and oligopolized by AMG, Ferrari and Porsche.....
I'm certainly not saying Merc are inferior, but I do feel that saying that BMW and Audi are is way off beat.
As for Lexus well their reliability/safety is top of the range from some experience driving an LS
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Your posts get more outrageous by the day.
Stopped reading his posts a month ago. Very stereotypical person....not exactly the way to be considering he lives in San Fran. Enough said.
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May want to test-drive a new AM....
Test-drove a DB9 for 50mis or so back in ?'05.....IMO, one of least impressive $100K+ cars on planet in terms of perf/dynamics/ergonomics/quality of materials/safety/daily-useability.....perhaps a car to buy some engineering-clueless, aspirational brand-oriented wife/nanny, etc who views cars as part of her tacky costume jewelry....
Have always been mystified why cos. like AM/B/L/Audi/BMW, etc get so much positive press, yet, when test-driven by even a mediocre but jaded driver, so obviously struggle w/basics like tq/smoothness/advcd gearboxes/steering/brakes/safety/ergonomics/high-quality interior materials, etc etc.....awful engineering wrapped in an aspirational brand....but would guess smartest engineers have chosen to work for (or start) SiliconValley tech cos. for past 10-20yrs, so ranks of talented engineers at auto cos. are prob fairly sparse at this stage....and oligopolized by AMG, Ferrari and Porsche.....
Test-drove a DB9 for 50mis or so back in ?'05.....IMO, one of least impressive $100K+ cars on planet in terms of perf/dynamics/ergonomics/quality of materials/safety/daily-useability.....perhaps a car to buy some engineering-clueless, aspirational brand-oriented wife/nanny, etc who views cars as part of her tacky costume jewelry....
Have always been mystified why cos. like AM/B/L/Audi/BMW, etc get so much positive press, yet, when test-driven by even a mediocre but jaded driver, so obviously struggle w/basics like tq/smoothness/advcd gearboxes/steering/brakes/safety/ergonomics/high-quality interior materials, etc etc.....awful engineering wrapped in an aspirational brand....but would guess smartest engineers have chosen to work for (or start) SiliconValley tech cos. for past 10-20yrs, so ranks of talented engineers at auto cos. are prob fairly sparse at this stage....and oligopolized by AMG, Ferrari and Porsche.....
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06 SL55
The Aston Martin Vantage is/feels so cheap, I can't stand it.
But the DBS (or the ordinary DB9) is a different story. I love my SL but next time around, I would honestly rather buy an DBS/DB9 than another pedestrian and mass-produced AMG SL.
But the DBS (or the ordinary DB9) is a different story. I love my SL but next time around, I would honestly rather buy an DBS/DB9 than another pedestrian and mass-produced AMG SL.
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Perhaps, my chiming in is a bit more relative than others' since I have had an SL 55 (2004) and currently own an Aston Martin Vantage (2008).
The fit and finish of the Aston are SUPERB, second to none. Yeah, there are some Volvo and Ford elements in it, i.e. the NAV screen and the Key Fob, but that is about it. The immense amounts of leather and alcantara used all around the interior as well as the custom hand stitching easily make the
Aston far more luxurious and exclusive than the SL, IMO. The engineering on the car is excellent, with handling and braking that will run circles around the heavier SL. Sure, the SL has an out of your seat feel when launched in a straight line, but the Vantage is quite a capable car too. Just check out some of the lap times around world tracks on www.fastestlaps.com You can see that it fairs better or comparable to the SL. The universal appeal of its gorgeous lines still leave me breathless. The rarity of the car is a big plus. Also, the car has not had any of the major issues one traditionally associated with British engineering. they have really done a great job
I have no idea what you are talking about. All I can say is have a look at this video I posted on youtube about starting up the Aston. You can see/hear that as I close the door, the solidness of the door shows. it doesn't sound flimsy at all, and makes the outside noise vanish with its insulation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZK5O...eature=related
The fit and finish of the Aston are SUPERB, second to none. Yeah, there are some Volvo and Ford elements in it, i.e. the NAV screen and the Key Fob, but that is about it. The immense amounts of leather and alcantara used all around the interior as well as the custom hand stitching easily make the
Aston far more luxurious and exclusive than the SL, IMO. The engineering on the car is excellent, with handling and braking that will run circles around the heavier SL. Sure, the SL has an out of your seat feel when launched in a straight line, but the Vantage is quite a capable car too. Just check out some of the lap times around world tracks on www.fastestlaps.com You can see that it fairs better or comparable to the SL. The universal appeal of its gorgeous lines still leave me breathless. The rarity of the car is a big plus. Also, the car has not had any of the major issues one traditionally associated with British engineering. they have really done a great job
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZK5O...eature=related
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...Just check out some of the lap times around world tracks on www.fastestlaps.com You can see that it fairs better or comparable to the SL....
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Perhaps, my chiming in is a bit more relative than others' since I have had an SL 55 (2004) and currently own an Aston Martin Vantage (2008).
The fit and finish of the Aston are SUPERB, second to none. Yeah, there are some Volvo and Ford elements in it, i.e. the NAV screen and the Key Fob, but that is about it. The immense amounts of leather and alcantara used all around the interior as well as the custom hand stitching easily make the
Aston far more luxurious and exclusive than the SL, IMO. The engineering on the car is excellent, with handling and braking that will run circles around the heavier SL. Sure, the SL has an out of your seat feel when launched in a straight line, but the Vantage is quite a capable car too. Just check out some of the lap times around world tracks on www.fastestlaps.com You can see that it fairs better or comparable to the SL. The universal appeal of its gorgeous lines still leave me breathless. The rarity of the car is a big plus. Also, the car has not had any of the major issues one traditionally associated with British engineering. they have really done a great job
I have no idea what you are talking about. All I can say is have a look at this video I posted on youtube about starting up the Aston. You can see/hear that as I close the door, the solidness of the door shows. it doesn't sound flimsy at all, and makes the outside noise vanish with its insulation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZK5O...eature=related
The fit and finish of the Aston are SUPERB, second to none. Yeah, there are some Volvo and Ford elements in it, i.e. the NAV screen and the Key Fob, but that is about it. The immense amounts of leather and alcantara used all around the interior as well as the custom hand stitching easily make the
Aston far more luxurious and exclusive than the SL, IMO. The engineering on the car is excellent, with handling and braking that will run circles around the heavier SL. Sure, the SL has an out of your seat feel when launched in a straight line, but the Vantage is quite a capable car too. Just check out some of the lap times around world tracks on www.fastestlaps.com You can see that it fairs better or comparable to the SL. The universal appeal of its gorgeous lines still leave me breathless. The rarity of the car is a big plus. Also, the car has not had any of the major issues one traditionally associated with British engineering. they have really done a great job
I have no idea what you are talking about. All I can say is have a look at this video I posted on youtube about starting up the Aston. You can see/hear that as I close the door, the solidness of the door shows. it doesn't sound flimsy at all, and makes the outside noise vanish with its insulation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZK5O...eature=related
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Perhaps, my chiming in is a bit more relative than others' since I have had an SL 55 (2004) and currently own an Aston Martin Vantage (2008).
The fit and finish of the Aston are SUPERB, second to none. Yeah, there are some Volvo and Ford elements in it, i.e. the NAV screen and the Key Fob, but that is about it. The immense amounts of leather and alcantara used all around the interior as well as the custom hand stitching easily make the
Aston far more luxurious and exclusive than the SL, IMO. The engineering on the car is excellent, with handling and braking that will run circles around the heavier SL. Sure, the SL has an out of your seat feel when launched in a straight line, but the Vantage is quite a capable car too. Just check out some of the lap times around world tracks on www.fastestlaps.com You can see that it fairs better or comparable to the SL. The universal appeal of its gorgeous lines still leave me breathless. The rarity of the car is a big plus. Also, the car has not had any of the major issues one traditionally associated with British engineering. they have really done a great job
I have no idea what you are talking about. All I can say is have a look at this video I posted on youtube about starting up the Aston. You can see/hear that as I close the door, the solidness of the door shows. it doesn't sound flimsy at all, and makes the outside noise vanish with its insulation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZK5O...eature=related
The fit and finish of the Aston are SUPERB, second to none. Yeah, there are some Volvo and Ford elements in it, i.e. the NAV screen and the Key Fob, but that is about it. The immense amounts of leather and alcantara used all around the interior as well as the custom hand stitching easily make the
Aston far more luxurious and exclusive than the SL, IMO. The engineering on the car is excellent, with handling and braking that will run circles around the heavier SL. Sure, the SL has an out of your seat feel when launched in a straight line, but the Vantage is quite a capable car too. Just check out some of the lap times around world tracks on www.fastestlaps.com You can see that it fairs better or comparable to the SL. The universal appeal of its gorgeous lines still leave me breathless. The rarity of the car is a big plus. Also, the car has not had any of the major issues one traditionally associated with British engineering. they have really done a great job
I have no idea what you are talking about. All I can say is have a look at this video I posted on youtube about starting up the Aston. You can see/hear that as I close the door, the solidness of the door shows. it doesn't sound flimsy at all, and makes the outside noise vanish with its insulation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZK5O...eature=related
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I have a Vantage, along w/my SL55, and I really like it. The quality of the Aston is brilliant. It really makes the SL look like a mass produced car (which it is). Dynamically, the 55's engine is really tough to beat. At the track I am quicker on a road course in the SL55, but the AM 'feels' better, and that is down to the AMG's electronics numbing things a bit. The Aston is far more tactile.
I enjoy both cars and I would not want to choose between the two.
I enjoy both cars and I would not want to choose between the two.
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jaguar xkr
I have a Vantage, along w/my SL55, and I really like it. The quality of the Aston is brilliant. It really makes the SL look like a mass produced car (which it is). Dynamically, the 55's engine is really tough to beat. At the track I am quicker on a road course in the SL55, but the AM 'feels' better, and that is down to the AMG's electronics numbing things a bit. The Aston is far more tactile.
I enjoy both cars and I would not want to choose between the two.
I enjoy both cars and I would not want to choose between the two.
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X5, E320cdi ,E220,R-Royce,Jag MKII and more...
My dad is in the market for a Roadstar. Our local jaguar dealer has one, but the wrong color. And our village is not big, and yesterday I was runing and there is one guy who owned a Maserati 4200 and now got his Aston V8 coupe and I spotted it yesterday. It is brand new and yet my dad need a roadstar after he also saw this car today. The SL63 is the "better" car but if you love a car you must take it.
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jaguar xkr
test drove the vantage, not impressed, at all.
have now test driven the F430 and the new SL 63. F430 is better, until I decided to test one more car, the new Porsche 997 Turbo.
Verdict, the Porsche has been ordered, no contest imo.
have now test driven the F430 and the new SL 63. F430 is better, until I decided to test one more car, the new Porsche 997 Turbo.
Verdict, the Porsche has been ordered, no contest imo.
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