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Old 05-07-2008, 02:27 AM
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I know (I think) that the E55 is faster than the SL55 (god forsaken hardtop convertible), but have the tables turned now? Is the SL63 faster than the E63? Sorry, but I'm studying for finals and I dont have time to read all of the posts and click on all of the links. Thanks
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Originally Posted by W211 BEAST
I know (I think) that the E55 is faster than the SL55 (god forsaken hardtop convertible), but have the tables turned now? Is the SL63 faster than the E63? Sorry, but I'm studying for finals and I dont have time to read all of the posts and click on all of the links. Thanks
You've got a valid point there, nicely said.
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You've got a valid point there, nicely said.


Weight is likely killing any advantage the SL 63 has over the E63 , bet it would be close. All AMG cars other than the 65's are close IMO
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The time is actually amazing, look at the 146mph trap speed (Bugatti Veyron only managed 137mph trap speed). For the record, SL55 AMG only traps in the 112-114mph range and SL65 AMG around 120mph. If you want a twin-turbo Viper to run 9's, it will need drag radials.
Veyron is 142mph in Road and Track
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Mercedes claims different 0-60 times for various models based on how high in the AMG food chain they are. They can't say with a straight face that the cheap SLK55 "is as fast as" $180,000 SL65. Most of their consumers don't know much about performance at all and look at 0-60 as a determination of how fast a car is. But the truth is that every AMG from SLK55 to SL65 does 0-60 in the low 4-second range. Line up them up a stoplight, and whoever gets a better launch wins to 60. Having power and actually putting it down are totally different things.

SL65 owners can say what they want, but unless they put some drag radials on their car, their 65 is no faster than any other AMG to 60. SL63 is actually likely to be faster in the real world than SL65 to 60 because it will be able to put the power down more effectively. When the SL65 does hook up (somewhere in 3rd gear probably lol!), 63's and 55's are pretty much toast
It takes a bit of restraint, but hookup with a 65 is not nearly this much of a problem. (I obviously have most of my experience with a W220 S65, and I know that the other chassis are a bit different, but they're not that different.)

A little feathering off the line is all it takes. Once you're rolling you can floor it and let the transmission upshift at red line (I find the S program works just fine). No chirping, including at or after the shift. I'm sure drag radials will improve launch (no feathering), but street PS2s do a fine job on a dry road after just barely easing the throttle for the first 1/10 of a second. It's WOT from there and all power to road.

I'll admit that the 0-80 or 0-100 is much more dramatically different with a 65 than 0-60, but with a modicum of experience the 65 will prevail there too.
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Originally Posted by whoover
It takes a bit of restraint, but hookup with a 65 is not nearly this much of a problem. (I obviously have most of my experience with a W220 S65, and I know that the other chassis are a bit different, but they're not that different.)

A little feathering off the line is all it takes. Once you're rolling you can floor it and let the transmission upshift at red line (I find the S program works just fine). No chirping, including at or after the shift. I'm sure drag radials will improve launch (no feathering), but street PS2s do a fine job on a dry road after just barely easing the throttle for the first 1/10 of a second. It's WOT from there and all power to road.

I'll admit that the 0-80 or 0-100 is much more dramatically different with a 65 than 0-60, but with a modicum of experience the 65 will prevail there too.
Well said.

Was looking through Evo magazine and saw the power to weight ratio on our 65-engined cars is worse than the E63. 270 vs 275bhp/tonne iirc. Didn't expect to see that.
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I expect the SL 63 to be tested at 4.1 sec in upcoming proper road tests from C&D and the rest.
We should see the true acceleration of the 65s when the SL BS comes out, with its wider and stickier rear tires. I am expecting about 3.2 secs from 0-60 mph.
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Originally Posted by Ferri
I expect the SL 63 to be tested at 4.1 sec in upcoming proper road tests from C&D and the rest.
We should see the true acceleration of the 65s when the SL BS comes out, with its wider and stickier rear tires. I am expecting about 3.2 secs from 0-60 mph.
Unless you're implying that the people who conduct the tests over at C&D get extra funding for meth, Idk what you're talking about. That SL63s 4.2, 0-60 is faster than the E55s 0-60, and the E63s 0-60 isnt that fast.

Look I'm not trying to start a war, and I'm not ridiculously cocky about my car... The 0-60 is just its strong area. Jet Li could probably beat the living ***** out of any body builder out there, but he probably cant lift as much as they can. Might be a silly analogy, but I'm tired and I'm studying for finals. Life doesnt make sense anymore. **** **** **** ****!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by W211 BEAST
Unless you're implying that the people who conduct the tests over at C&D get extra funding for meth, Idk what you're talking about. That SL63s 4.2, 0-60 is faster than the E55s 0-60, and the E63s 0-60 isnt that fast.

Look I'm not trying to start a war, and I'm not ridiculously cocky about my car... The 0-60 is just its strong area. Jet Li could probably beat the living ***** out of any body builder out there, but he probably cant lift as much as they can. Might be a silly analogy, but I'm tired and I'm studying for finals. Life doesnt make sense anymore. **** **** **** ****!!!!!!!!!
Based on the CLAIMED MB 0-60 numbers, the new SL63 should be slower than the E63 (or even the CLS63). Doesn't MB CLAIM 4.3 for both of them compared to the 4.4 for the SL?

I'm only bringing this up because we were previously talking about the claimed numbers from a marketing POV. So the "cheaper" E63 OFFICIALLY outperforms the more expensive SL63 AND is only 0.1 slower than the S/SL/CL65.

Maybe MB didn't focus on that because there aren't too many people comparing these types of cars because they are in a totally different price segment - it's more likely they compare the 4.3 sec. of the E/CLS63 to the claimed 4.5 of - let's say - the M5.
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Originally Posted by FloridaE55
Based on the CLAIMED MB 0-60 numbers, the new SL63 should be slower than the E63 (or even the CLS63). Doesn't MB CLAIM 4.3 for both of them compared to the 4.4 for the SL?

I'm only bringing this up because we were previously talking about the claimed numbers from a marketing POV. So the "cheaper" E63 OFFICIALLY outperforms the more expensive SL63 AND is only 0.1 slower than the S/SL/CL65.

Maybe MB didn't focus on that because there aren't too many people comparing these types of cars because they are in a totally different price segment - it's more likely they compare the 4.3 sec. of the E/CLS63 to the claimed 4.5 of - let's say - the M5.
This is something that we all know... The average SL55/63 owner has no idea how fast an E55/63 is. I had to prove to one of my friends that my car was faster than his older brothers SL55 with an old school drag race. Some of my friends didnt know that my E55 was faster than a 650i. Most people dont think of these 4 door supercars as fast cars, they automatically think that the 2 door will be faster, and they spend 40k more on it.
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perhaps 4.2 is only realized when using race launch feature... this is something none of the other cars have available to benefit from
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perhaps 4.2 is only realized when using race launch feature... this is something none of the other cars have available to benefit from
F me... The man speaks sense.
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Car n Drivers test comparison between the 07 E63, 07 AUDI S6 and the 07 BMW M5 listed the following in the 0-60

E63 4.2
M5 4.5
S6 4.7

I dont see how the new Sl63 can be faster than the E. Might be about the same.
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IDK if the E63 is actually that fast. Anyone have any other info? Cause I know that the E55 0-60 is 4.2. Anyone have anything other than the C&D numbers for the E63?
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Originally Posted by ESIX3POWER
Car n Drivers test comparison between the 07 E63, 07 AUDI S6 and the 07 BMW M5 listed the following in the 0-60

E63 4.2
M5 4.5
S6 4.7

I dont see how the new Sl63 can be faster than the E. Might be about the same.
No one cares about 0-60. It's like people who mistakenly think ET is more important than trap
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BMW claims 4.6 seconds for the M3 coupe, yet the M3 sedan cracked 4.1 0-60mph in a recent C&D test, so there goes all the hoopla about all the claimed numbers.
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Tuskir is right on the money:
"I would propose switching from 0-60 to 1/4 mile time and trap speeds as a new performance benchmark. As some mentioned, 0-60 has been the benchmark for some 70 years, however, it has outgrown its usefulness in performance cars in the past 5 years or so. As cars grow more powerful, traction becomes the limiting factor, not power. "

Traction is a much bigger issue when you're talking about 500+h.p. vehicles.

My Jeep can easily beat the SL55 across an intersection because there is virtually no wheel spin, even though the SL is much faster, especially on passing maneuvers.

You also have to take road tests from the magazines with a grain of salt. They beat the sh*t out of those cars over and over again, using professional drivers, popping the clutch at 3 or 4K rpm, all in an effort to cut a tenth off the 0-60 time and report the best run of the day. Not a likely scenario for the average guy sitting at a traffic light married to a car payment.
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
Very true........but.
This is like the gas tax holiday. Very good idea in theory but in practice, not useful since none of the candidates proposing will actually be in office this summer to sign it into law. Only George Bush can, and he hasn't said anything about it.

......When buying one of these cars, you are not allowed to test drive them. You buy them sight unseen. You rely solely on second hand information which are all subjective. The only objective info car makers release are stuff like 0-60 time, weight, gas mileage. The 0-60 time I agree is imperfect. What is the buyer to do? If you demand an SL63 for a test drive, your local dealer will chase you out of the building unless you agree to buy them of them from him/her. If your argument is that car manufacturesrs should release more objective data for performance cars, I agree with you totally. If you argument is that folks should ignore the little objective performance data there is, then I don't agree. So your point is diluted by the fact that MB does not have, lap times, braking distance, skidpad, lane change mph etc on their website. Instead they have.........yep, 0-60 time.

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I test drove 1 a month before I bought mine at Mercedes Benz of Ft.Lauderdale I can give you my sales persons name and number and I am still in my 20's so it has nothing to do with age.
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actually I sold the CL63 to my brother I guess I need to update my profile.
How did you like the CL63 compared to the SL63? Not just speed but the vehicle for fun and everyday driving?
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