SL55 AMG, SL63 AMG, SL65 AMG (R230) 2002 - 2011 (2003 US for SL55 and 2004 for the SL65)

SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: ABC Tandem Pump - Red ABC Drive Carefully

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:49 PM
  #1  
edin_sl55's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 74
Likes: 3
From: St. Louis, MO
2003 Mercedes SL55
Exclamation ABC Tandem Pump - Red ABC Drive Carefully

I have a 2003 Mercedes SL55 with ABC Problems

December 2012

- I received the white ABC Drive Carefully warning and right away connected the DAS to the car for a full diagnostics. After, conducting a full diagnostics (RODEO) I noticed that the pressure dropped below 100 bar.

- The car was not leaning. I drive the car almost everyday therefore it never is parked for the long term leaning to occur as I have read on the forum.

- The white warning light would go off and come back on intermittently.

January 2013

- I ordered a refurbished pump and replaced it.
- At the same time I rebuilt the valve block
- Put a new filter and ran the RODEO, put in another new filter and ran the RODEO, this process was recommended vs flushing the system and putting new fluid
- Topped of the fluid to reach lowest mark on dipstick on a warm engine.

- Car ran great for about 1k miles

April 2013

- I took a 150 mile trip and the ride was great. Parked the car and when I came back I noticed there was fluid on the ground which looks like it came from the reservoir. I opened the hood and noticed that the level was correct. I started the car and drove it home one mile. Then checked fluid again and it was at the correct mark. However, there was a Red ABC Drive Carefully. Once I came home I connected the DAS software and noticed that the ABC Pressure is 4 bar.

- At this point, I took the stethoscope and noticed that the pump is running with what sounds like normal operation (no abnormal grinding).

- The power steering works well and all of the fluid levels are where they should be based on the engine temperature.

Now, I'm looking for advice please let me know if it could be the pressure sensor. I have been traveling lately and have not had time to work on the car. I'm open for any suggestions which would indicated what the cause of the pressure drop would be?

- I have researched a bit and I'm positive that the pump did not run dry and the system is fully pressurized since the car is not dropping/leaning.

Could it be a leak in the system where air bubbles are being introduced into the system?

I plan on putting the car on the lift this weekend to take a closer look for leaks and a full inspection of the pressure sensor.

I appreciate any input/advice you might have for me and thank you for reading through my troubles with the ABC System.

Last edited by edin_sl55; Apr 24, 2013 at 07:23 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2013 | 08:49 AM
  #2  
edin_sl55's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 74
Likes: 3
From: St. Louis, MO
2003 Mercedes SL55
BUMP... Debating if I should take it in to the dealer for a full diagnosis... Let me know what you guys think
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:11 AM
  #3  
alx's Avatar
alx
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,268
Likes: 253
do a rodeo and post here the abc system pressure psi graph... you can also do the tandem pump stress test and post the graph here.

you either have gunk in the system, bad pressure sensor(s) or something else or the planets are not aligning properly on a leap year ...

the abc fluid reservoir will overflow if you have pump problems (not pumping). the abc system has certain back pressure and if the pump is not in good order the backpressure will push fluid back through the pump into the reservoir and overflow it.

one thing to try is to leave your car for a day or two and see if it leans on any corner. this might give you more info on what is going on.
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:45 PM
  #4  
edin_sl55's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 74
Likes: 3
From: St. Louis, MO
2003 Mercedes SL55
Originally Posted by alx
do a rodeo and post here the abc system pressure psi graph... you can also do the tandem pump stress test and post the graph here.

you either have gunk in the system, bad pressure sensor(s) or something else or the planets are not aligning properly on a leap year ...

the abc fluid reservoir will overflow if you have pump problems (not pumping). the abc system has certain back pressure and if the pump is not in good order the backpressure will push fluid back through the pump into the reservoir and overflow it.

one thing to try is to leave your car for a day or two and see if it leans on any corner. this might give you more info on what is going on.
Alx,

Thank you for all of the information, I believe that the planets were not aligning properly on a leap year because when I turned on the car today the pressure was back to 189 bar.

I will lift the car this weekend and inspect it for leaks. I also set the car to lowest setting (normal) and will leave it until the weekend. For the last couple of days it was in the highest setting and I could not notice any leaning on any of the corners.

Also, I was able to do a rodeo and now the pressure idles at 189 psi and during rodeo it dropped to 119 psi but after it was complete it went back up to 189 psi rather quickly. I also captured a pressure graph but was not able to do the rodeo so it just shows the car idle between 188-190 then when i turn it off the pressure drops. I'm not sure on how I can capture pressure and do the rodeo at the same time.

I also took some time to listen to the pump again using the stethoscope and could not detect any irregularities. However, I did put it on Spark Plug wire connector #2 A and noticed a loud rattling that was not present on any other spark plug wire metal cap. Any ideas?
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2013 | 03:49 PM
  #5  
alx's Avatar
alx
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,268
Likes: 253
Originally Posted by edin_sl55
Alx,

Thank you for all of the information, I believe that the planets were not aligning properly on a leap year because when I turned on the car today the pressure was back to 189 bar.

I will lift the car this weekend and inspect it for leaks. I also set the car to lowest setting (normal) and will leave it until the weekend. For the last couple of days it was in the highest setting and I could not notice any leaning on any of the corners.

Also, I was able to do a rodeo and now the pressure idles at 189 psi and during rodeo it dropped to 119 psi but after it was complete it went back up to 189 psi rather quickly. I also captured a pressure graph but was not able to do the rodeo so it just shows the car idle between 188-190 then when i turn it off the pressure drops. I'm not sure on how I can capture pressure and do the rodeo at the same time.

I also took some time to listen to the pump again using the stethoscope and could not detect any irregularities. However, I did put it on Spark Plug wire connector #2 A and noticed a loud rattling that was not present on any other spark plug wire metal cap. Any ideas?
the pressure will drop during rodeo and once it is below 100 rodeo will stop until pressure is built again and then will resume. if yours never drops below 120 i assume your pump is in really good shape. most abc cars will stop several times to build up pressure during rodeo.

in regards to leaving the car in the top-most position- the top most position "locks" the valve blocks in the most favorable position so if there are any leaks it will be harder to notice (ie little to no drop). best is to leave car in lowest position (like you did) to see if it dips in one of the corners...

the rattle near #2 - i have no idea. the v8s are very vocal and like to chatter/ click/ clack a lot. valvetrain is noisy to begin with. if you have a particularly noisy spot... it could be valve clearance. i wouldnt bother though unless it gets really noisy.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 07:29 PM
  #6  
pwrtruck1's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
01 Mercedes S55 AMG
What kind of diagnostic tools are you guys using to perform these checks and "RODEO"? I recently had my control arm bushings replaced and now the light is on the dash (I think white). I never realized there were two different colors before reading this, but I think I have seen red in the dash. I also have a noisy pump or damper I need to fix on this car. Thanks for any help you can provide.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 08:38 PM
  #7  
alx's Avatar
alx
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,268
Likes: 253
Please search the forum for das, xentry, star, multiplexer... Etc.

Plenty of info on the subject.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:13 AM.

story-0
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-2
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-5
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-6
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE